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Ilayaraja made the world cinema to look into Sounth Indian Movies

Topic started by Bala (@ 4.37.102.100) on Fri Jan 3 16:44:17 EST 2003.
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Ilayaraja, the magnanimous name ,every other music lover of this century and in the future will know and remember.I inaugurate this thread to share our views about his great work to make the world to look into South Indian Movies.There was a time that people were interested to listen to hindi music, where everyone had a question infront whether we r going to acheive the quality of that kind.There came our isaignani to say "Here is the music that everyone loves" and delivered to the whole world.After his entry our culture(south indian) is exhibited to the whole world in an effecient manner which was lacked with all the other music directors.Manvaasani,intha mannin kaathal,intha mannin veeram,intha mannin pulamai endru ivan ivvulaghukku alli koduthathai neanivu kooruvom.When the whole world was talking about westernizing our music this Man made the western people to listen to our carnatic music.This great man helped lot of talented directors to deliver their thirst over our culture and made the movies look like evergreen.I personally request the admin to keep this thread open as a research thread to talk and share about that great man Ilayaraja who is making our south indian film industry to be proudly standing in front of the world.

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• From: Satish (@ 128.107.253.38) on: Mon Mar 10 10:21:22 EST 2003
  
  Music is more of a personal preferrence. There cannot be one music director who is good to everyone. I feel IR is the best of the lot because I grew up listening to his music. I cannot relate much to MSV's music, which is not his fault. I would sum it this way. MSV/IR produced great music when music was confined to its boundries. There was no Satellite TVs to telecast songs through out the day through out the world. I still remember the days when "Oliyum Oliyum" was the only program to show songs once a week.
  I'm pretty MSV/IR would have been better received have they been at their best now. But, my experience is that, I can still listen to IR songs of early 80s to late 90s, without complaining much about the quality of the recording. Because, the conent so so magical. But, the same cannot be said about the songs that come now. Because the rely more on sound engineering. Agai, who is to be balmmed. Me, you, the music direcotr or the generation?
  
  
• From: Satish (@ 128.107.253.38) on: Mon Mar 10 10:21:48 EST 2003
  
  Music is more of a personal preferrence. There cannot be one music director who is good to everyone. I feel IR is the best of the lot because I grew up listening to his music. I cannot relate much to MSV's music, which is not his fault. I would sum it this way. MSV/IR produced great music when music was confined to its boundries. There was no Satellite TVs to telecast songs through out the day through out the world. I still remember the days when "Oliyum Oliyum" was the only program to show songs once a week.
  I'm pretty MSV/IR would have been better received have they been at their best now. But, my experience is that, I can still listen to IR songs of early 80s to late 90s, without complaining much about the quality of the recording. Because, the content is so magical. But, the same cannot be said about the songs that come now. Because the rely more on sound engineering. Agai, who is to be balmmed. Me, you, the music direcotr or the generation?
  
  
• From: Dobri (@ 195.39.134.84) on: Mon Mar 10 12:43:59 EST 2003
  
  hmc, what is your doubt ?
  
  
• From: V (@ 160.83.32.14) on: Mon Mar 10 15:30:49 EST 2003
  
  Hi All,
  
  The problem with IR music is that the sound is not enhanced as ARR does. To quote an example, I was listening to music when my Manager (a white Brit not a desi, just to get a neutral assessment than just for his origins), asked me what you listen to? I said some Indian songs ...
  And he heard couple of songs ... when I played IR ones (valayosai kala) ... he said .. it is sounding a lil old, but good. So I changed to ARR song which he said is good in terms of sound quality (he had a smile in his face), but in terms of the content he said it sounds more our music ... to be exact he said "is this Indian music? I dont see much difference between this music and pop music".
  
  There is not much originality in terms of interludes and beats in lots of his music (though i like alaipayuthey and kandukondaen kandukondaen, Kannathil muthamittal and some songs of his earlier albums), these albums are mostly, sound original and refreshing.
  
  IR is more original than ARR I guess (99% IR sound more original). Other thing is IR didnt get the exposure when he was at peak as ARR did partly because of Satellite TV when ARR was at peak (might be the reason for instant hindi popularity). I dont like the way ppl argue abt IR didnt make it in Hindi ... its absurd cuz to me North Indians are not open to other kind of music as South Indians do (but copy many of IRs and ARRs songs and way of making music). Infact, ARR said this in an interview (not directly of course).
  
  To me, when it comes to originality it shud go to IR. The one thing I like abt ARR is that he improvises alot and allows other musicians in his crew to improvise too, thus producing quality music.
  
  
  
• From: My-Nomination-for-Joke-of-the-Year (@ 198.73.152.100) on: Mon Mar 10 17:49:09 EST 2003
  
  "many people believe that GA was behind IR's 80s success. "
  
  Alright then. I would like to know who those people are. Can you list all three of them please!
  
  
  
  
• From: V (@ 160.83.32.14) on: Tue Mar 11 07:17:13 EST 2003
  
  GA can make contributions to the song but not influence ppl to listen to the songs as KD does. KD can single handedly lift a normal song. Its absurd saying IRs songs are a hit cuz of GA (joke, cuz i dont recall even one). Many (some 75%) of IR hit songs are not because of lyrics just for the tune. So, you could categorize those comments as jokes of the year.
  
  
  
  
• From: pranav (@ 202.142.68.94) on: Wed Mar 12 03:34:09 EST 2003
  
  Well Said V
  
  
• From: Rawther (@ 203.106.139.88) on: Wed Mar 12 05:28:19 EST 2003
  
  Ilayaraja made the world cinema to look at South Indian Movies....
  
  ....with contempt! @$^%#@ @!%$%#
  
  
• From: Sarat (@ 131.238.110.199) on: Wed Mar 12 19:44:33 EST 2003
  
  Rawther:
  i like your postings about music. ive seen u posting many messages and ive learned a lot on music and lot of good information on music which is the prime motive of this page. i like you to continue this good work and impress people. kudos to rawther. yes u are a really an impressive person starting from choosing ur nick name(i suppose) to ur informative TECHNICAL analysis on music.....
  i hope u understand my true feelings and understanding of ur talents!!!!
  keep it up!
  
  
• From: kiran (@ 203.94.224.220) on: Sun Mar 16 13:45:31 EST 2003
  
  hi,
  myself kiran ,and i'm willing to become a lyricist.
  in short i want a break as a lyricist.
  any one interested may contact me on 24910827 or mail me at kiran_freaksout@yahoo.com
  
  
• From: kiran (@ 203.94.224.220) on: Sun Mar 16 13:46:48 EST 2003
  
  hi,
  myself kiran ,and i'm willing to become a lyricist.
  in short i want a break as a lyricist.
  any one interested may contact me on 24910827 or mail me at kiran_freaksout@yahoo.com
  
  
• From: x (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Mon Mar 17 10:49:55 EST 2003
  
  V,
  valayosai kalala -- Actually the recording/sound quality of that song is excellant considering the fact this song was recording more than 15 years ago with the technical disadvantages that IR had at that time. The starting flute piece of that song is beyond comparison. It's a great song.. It would have been greater if IR used a different female singer, IMO.
  
  
• From: V (@ 160.83.32.14) on: Mon Mar 17 14:31:03 EST 2003
  
  Valayosai a great song x, but considering the sound engineering works thats done today, it could have been a song which is one of the greatest. Lata mangeshkar has sung very well in that. Its one of my favorite songs as well. What I want to emphasise is that .. IR should not be judged based on sound quality .... he should be judged based on the music he produces. And, ARR should not be just judged by the sound quality but also by his contribution to producing music which can be heard some 20 yrs from now.
  
  IR is a gem. You might think a song as ordinary like ... "Vaanam Keezhe vanthal enne", if you listen to it now ... you will realise how good a song that is.. I can give some good examples ... Poonthalir aada, Nee oru kaathal sangeetham (Nayakan) (the flute section in particular), Kaadhal kavithaigal (Gopura Vasalile) ... and the list is long. These are good sound quality as well. Maybe if IR chooses to revamp some of his songs that are not that great in terms of sound quality (judging by todays standards), many will appreciate the technical virtuosity and the simplicity in it.
  
  IR has a great knack of producing simplicity and complexity in the same song. He to me, is one of the creative music director in India who doesnt care about trends. ARR should do alot of work to get into that list considering some craps he is dishing out lately.
  
  
• From: V (@ 194.205.246.146) on: Mon Mar 17 14:31:47 EST 2003
  
  Valayosai a great song x, but considering the sound engineering works thats done today, it could have been a song which is one of the greatest. Lata mangeshkar has sung very well in that. Its one of my favorite songs as well. What I want to emphasise is that .. IR should not be judged based on sound quality .... he should be judged based on the music he produces. And, ARR should not be just judged by the sound quality but also by his contribution to producing music which can be heard some 20 yrs from now.
  
  IR is a gem. You might think a song as ordinary like ... "Vaanam Keezhe vanthal enne", if you listen to it now ... you will realise how good a song that is.. I can give some good examples ... Poonthalir aada, Nee oru kaathal sangeetham (Nayakan) (the flute section in particular), Kaadhal kavithaigal (Gopura Vasalile) ... and the list is long. These are good sound quality as well. Maybe if IR chooses to revamp some of his songs that are not that great in terms of sound quality (judging by todays standards), many will appreciate the technical virtuosity and the simplicity in it.
  
  IR has a great knack of producing simplicity and complexity in the same song. He to me, is one of the creative music director in India who doesnt care about trends. ARR should do alot of work to get into that list considering some craps he is dishing out lately.
  
  
• From: Lollu Party (@ 61.6.38.132) on: Mon Mar 17 20:07:27 EST 2003
  
  >>>ARR should do alot of work to get into that list considering some craps he is dishing out lately.
  
  You mean you want ARR to join in the company of IR to produce nothing but trash?
  I know misery loves company, but this is too much. :)
  
  

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