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A.R. Rahman and Vairamuthu win National Award for Kannathil Muthamittaal

Topic started by skumar (@ 219.65.103.149) on Sat Jul 26 07:03:45 EDT 2003.
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This is ARR's fourth National Award and Vairamuthu's fifth National Award.

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• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.233.215) on: Sun Aug 3 21:43:02 EDT 2003
  
  hey guys,IR not winning awards during 80-90 is surprising and bad...but it was concerted effort of mani and his crew with their technical excellence brought the Attn. back to Tamil... so hence ARR is lucky to be in the post-boom period..anyways his music carries a lot of appeal to the northeners....M.G.R is a very natural actor and acts with minimum fuss so thread pls. restrain from making fun of that political Phenom.....
  
  
• From: xml (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Sun Aug 3 22:23:40 EDT 2003
  
  maddy and teja
  
  IR's contribution is top among the MD's. He don't need any award. ARR is nowhere with IR's work.
  
  What is great in that ARR's award. First of all he is a copycat. The credit should go to the original artist. Now he got good lesson from YSR,HJ,VS. He don't know what to copy now.
  
  hihihi
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Paran (@ 203.123.16.108) on: Sun Aug 3 23:18:03 EDT 2003
  
  XML,
  
  yea IR's contribution is in no doubt....
  can u list some of them?....please?
  
  Lesson from HJ, VS, YSR?!!!???...yea yea...
  keep it as a bed time story for ur kids....
  as they will believe it (can't expect ur kids to be smarter rite?)
  
  
• From: nandini (@ 130.102.128.60) on: Sun Aug 3 23:22:34 EDT 2003
  
  vatsa,
  VM got his 5th award.
  
  mudhal mariyaadhai
  roja
  karuthamma & pavithra
  sangamam
  and now
  KM
  
  music has no language...
  rahman can get in hindi malayalam or kannadam,
  but fighting 15+ languages and winning for 5th time is not that an easy task.
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.234.56) on: Mon Aug 4 02:34:57 EDT 2003
  
  hey nandini did you notice that ARR has given VM 4 awards.. bcos the producer just fixes the MD and the MD chooses the lyricist ... so ARR has a lots of credit for this,just like VM's contribution to ARR's success....
  
  mr.xml , i really want to know "WHAT IS IR'S CONTRI TO TAMIL PEOPLE AND TAMIL MUSIC???" pls dunt get angry and list them for this Mumbaiite and the singapore ma'm as we are not aware of these stuff... and can you provide the links that prove ARR has copied the tunes from west???
  
  (i dunt want the link for copied BG beats as it is just a commercial S/W that even MADDY can buy)
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 61.8.210.76) on: Mon Aug 4 05:03:04 EDT 2003
  
  "WHAT IS IR'S CONTRI TO TAMIL PEOPLE AND TAMIL MUSIC???"
  
  Very simple answer. His contribution is that he has taught us what music is and how beautiful and exciting it can get from a simple noise to a symphony orchestra. And most importantly, he has taught us how much feeling it can evoke when you listen to music....his music that is. Period.
  
  
• From: Paran (@ 203.123.16.108) on: Mon Aug 4 05:28:19 EDT 2003
  
  Period?.....are you having ur monthly ambleen?
  relax...and be cool...ok
  
  :)
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.218.220) on: Mon Aug 4 07:59:36 EDT 2003
  
  then what did KVM and MSV-TKR do b4 IR... they gave music wihtout knowing the meaning of it??????? i asked abt. the economic contribution.......
  
  
• From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6) on: Mon Aug 4 09:28:55 EDT 2003
  
  Maddy
  Indisputable facts
  In TFM, IR redefined how music should be!!
  IR precisely made the fact that MD is important.
  Movies just could run for the Music alone.
  Revolutionized the Cassatte industry by increasing the sales.
  Surely proved the versatility by making so many movies including BGM's in one period of time and still making all of them HITs.
  Provided the longest streak of HITs.
  He was his own competition in his PEAK times, and still got the better of himself.
  He did get recognized for composing the Symphony.
  A stalwart who could write good songs.
  
  Probably these are the things KVM, MSV-TKR did not do as MD's, they did good music, but they were not individually the force, they were a force with the accompaniments of lot other people.
  
  Now tell me who has done this, and remind yourself is this possible.
  
  Make sense?
  
  
• From: Whatever (@ 203.87.131.138) on: Mon Aug 4 09:35:01 EDT 2003
  
  Are you serious? You are saying that VM's lyrics got the awards because of the music? engo ponalum Maddy oda idhey pethal.
  
  
• From: nagarajan (@ 81.23.194.251) on: Mon Aug 4 12:45:59 EDT 2003
  
  i am joining this discussion, but i would like to share my memories :
  
  Till early 80's, in the annual national awards, most of the awards (best actor/actress, music director, best female/male singer, etc) were won by film industry from north (mainly hindi/bengali).
  
  Till today, everybody is discussing why Shivaji did not get the best actor award even once.
  
  But at that time, our directors/producers (who did not get any award - i do not want to name them) used to say that it is the people's verdict that is important rather than an award given by 10/12 individuals and not getting any award is not an issue. They further said that the panel of judges were biased towards north indian film industry.
  
  When our film industry started getting awards (in 1985 TFM got maximum awards), our producers/directors hailed the award winners and appreciated the members on the panel.
  
  Same view is continuing even today with our people in TFM.
  
  
  
• From: Nattamai (@ 207.44.154.35) on: Mon Aug 4 12:49:35 EDT 2003
  
  bcos the producer just fixes the MD and the MD chooses the lyricist
  
  Again you got it wrong. Director plays a role in selecting the lyricist too. Example kathir.
  
  ARR tries to work out without VM but he is going to go down.I think ARR sucks nowadays and without VM's lyrics they suck more.
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.234.64) on: Mon Aug 4 15:27:55 EDT 2003
  
  no way u ask any MD... he chooses the lyricist and singers.. it is his choice...... but director can request a different person....
  
  mr.whatever , if VM had won awards for IR's movies then ppl. like rajasaranam,musicislife wud have added that too in IR's achievements.. so wat's wrong in me adding that to ARR's achievements???????
  
  musicislife... i'm really disappointed with ur over-admiration of IR....(for a NIRVANA fan like u)
  
  b4 MSV-TKR, it was just carnatic music and they brought lite-music..isn't it redefintion of music?????
  "ooty varai uravu,anbe vaa,paalum-pazhamum"... movies were hits for music alone..
  however hard IR tries, lifetime achievement for sales goes to ARR... he put TFM into the topmost commercial gear..
  ARR's versatility is proven with his Kandukondein*2, KC, Kadhalan, AP..... every MD is versatile in his own ways....
  ARR has worked with MJ,ALW and is doing a chinese movie which is a gr8 international recognition...
  all other reasons given were IR-biased except for "Provided the longest streak of HITs"....
  
  
• From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6) on: Mon Aug 4 17:04:37 EDT 2003
  
  C'mon Maddy, you dont accept the facts that has happened.
  NIRVANA has nothing to do with it. I am not over-admiring or under-estimating anybodies talents. but facts are facts, which i cannot believe you cannot accept, just coz it is IR.
  I am not biased for IR, i just gave the facts which is true, ask anybody, but u dont seem to go back in history. You seem to conveniently ignore facts.
  You dont need to be disappointed, coz i have totally different music tastes and spread out. essentially i am a big fan of carnatic music.. and Dasettan and TVS and Madurai Mani being the greatest i love to listen to.
  
  I surely cannot say all the movies you mentioned were movies running based on the songs alone.. coz i see a big name behind all those movies, and surely dont have statistics for them to prove it, you may be right and you might be wrong too..
  
  If you surely tell light music from carnatic is redefintion i do accept it, but surely you should wisely and unbiasedly think of how IR transformed TFM in his days.
  
  
• From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6) on: Mon Aug 4 17:14:01 EDT 2003
  
  MADDY,
  i dont want to argue. if you say that if IR did not bring about the importance of MD in TFM, there is no point in talking or discussing
  
  I am so off in TFM for recent happenings, not even seen Ramana to comment abt it.. but old IR stuff i surely can gaurantee what i said is truth
  
  In TFM, IR redefined how music should be!! (IR Biased? may be)
  IR precisely made the fact that MD is important. (this aint the truth?)
  Movies just could run for the Music alone. (I am kidding right!!)
  Revolutionized the Cassatte industry by increasing the sales. (I am bluffing, where is Echo?)
  Surely proved the versatility by making so many movies including BGM's in one period of time and still making all of them HITs. (i can list the movies in 80's, so i am absolutely bluffing coz of IR Bias)
  Provided the longest streak of HITs. (you accepted this one)
  He was his own competition in his PEAK times, and still got the better of himself. (Tell me who has done that, now recently)
  He did get recognized for composing the Symphony. (IR Biased, and IR did not compose the symphony, actually Mozart did that, and IR was just a Music conductor.. shame on IR)..
  A stalwart who could write good songs. (this is a very false allegation)
  What the hell am i talking.. Just want to blabber...
  
  
  May be Rajasaranam and other guys can you statistics if you try and start researching a little bit more.
  
  
• From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6) on: Mon Aug 4 17:14:23 EDT 2003
  
  MADDY,
  i dont want to argue. if you say that if IR did not bring about the importance of MD in TFM, there is no point in talking or discussing
  
  I am so off in TFM for recent happenings, not even seen Ramana to comment abt it.. but old IR stuff i surely can gaurantee what i said is truth
  
  In TFM, IR redefined how music should be!! (IR Biased? may be)
  IR precisely made the fact that MD is important. (this aint the truth?)
  Movies just could run for the Music alone. (I am kidding right!!)
  Revolutionized the Cassatte industry by increasing the sales. (I am bluffing, where is Echo?)
  Surely proved the versatility by making so many movies including BGM's in one period of time and still making all of them HITs. (i can list the movies in 80's, so i am absolutely bluffing coz of IR Bias)
  Provided the longest streak of HITs. (you accepted this one)
  He was his own competition in his PEAK times, and still got the better of himself. (Tell me who has done that, now recently)
  He did get recognized for composing the Symphony. (IR Biased, and IR did not compose the symphony, actually Mozart did that, and IR was just a Music conductor.. shame on IR)..
  A stalwart who could write good songs. (this is a very false allegation)
  What the hell am i talking.. Just want to blabber...
  
  
  May be Rajasaranam and other guys can you statistics if you try and start researching a little bit more.
  
  
• From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6) on: Mon Aug 4 17:29:29 EDT 2003
  
  Sorry for the double post
  
  

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