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Yesterday - Illayarajah Today - A.R. Rahman Tomorrow - Yuvan Shankar Raja

Topic started by Pras (@ 66.185.84.71) on Sat Jan 25 08:43:29 EST 2003.
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Who Do You Think Is The Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow MD of TFM?

I think its:
Yesterday - Illayarajah
Today - A.R. Rahman
Tomorrow - Yuvan Shankar Raja

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Responses:

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• From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6) on: Mon Jul 28 10:51:43 EDT 2003
  
  MADDY,
  Why the hell do you get angry now? just bcoz i hit the pressure point.. it is the same way when you tell things about IR.. i just wnated to know your reaction and how childish you could be and how provoked you could be...
  Anyways chill..
  You surely know a few names.. Bryan Adams compared to Kurt?? really interesting.. anyways it is TFM page i dont want to discuss anyting more...
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.218.43) on: Mon Jul 28 14:21:35 EDT 2003
  
  y cant Bryan be compared to kurt- both are good ain't it? anyway who do you think is lesser????
  
  i did not get angry musicislife, i just told that IR-fans dunt see music beyond IR and they are the ones who criticise ARR.. actually it is a fact that ARR's fans are bit more decent and always accpet that IR is a gr8 fellow... i accept IR is gr8 but no way ARR is lesser to him... just bcos ppl. dunt understand ARR's music they put him down for IR.. that is bad....
  
  
• From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6) on: Mon Jul 28 15:57:16 EDT 2003
  
  MADDY,
  for a matter of fact i do accept it..
  You can compare whomever you want to, i was not opposed to it, it was an interesting comparison..where two genres of music like alternative rock and soft-rock/Canadian pop is compared was interesting.. was just curious..
  Have fun with your posts and enjoy, will only reply if there is something interesting to learn. it is kind-a boring now, in this DF
  
  Personally, Kurt is my favorite over Bryan.. though his song in Tarzan.. was amazing..
  
  
• From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6) on: Mon Jul 28 16:03:40 EDT 2003
  
  MADDY,
  i dont want to side-track listen to DEFAULT and OUR LADY PEACE (falling from heaven).. Train : Calling all the Angels, Matchbox20: unwell..
  
  Probably you will like it.
  
  
• From: xml (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Mon Jul 28 20:13:31 EDT 2003
  
  Maddy
  What can we say with udaya,parasuram,kadal virus,KM etc..No one critisiz roja,kadalan bombay etc..
  KM wins award but how far it accepted in TN. It is a flop by music and moviewise.
  But we feel IR is great still because he made several hit movies(not only albums). He has sacrifieced his music for many crap movies and made it hit and missed to travel to the north.That's why TF industry is better than other.
  ARR is intelligent. He knows how to climb up. He himself knows he cannot make hit albums without talented artist. Many flops in tamil and hindi.
  
  IR did the challenge he proved that. OK.
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.233.136) on: Mon Jul 28 22:58:26 EDT 2003
  
  xml mannnn , i accept IR has churned out much more hits than ARR but ARR is like Sachin Tendulkar.. he amazingly alters the fortunes of Music industry ,be it hindi or tamil.... he sent TFM into dizzying commercial heights with Kadhalan and other albums.. and now is believed to have revived the industry with Boys......he also revived the HFM industry with saathiya..... so he is a gr8 mann....
  
  see he gives more freedom to artistes to improvise... that doesent mean he is not talented and depends on them... and also boss after being in Mumbai for 7 yrs.. i can tell u that ppl. here wud have never accpeted IR as their taste of music is western inclined which IR doesent like....
  
  i find it pretty strange when u tell me that he is not talented and gives more flops than hits .......wud a producer give 1.5 crore(HFM rate for ARR) to a man who gives more flops than hits....
  
  
• From: Paran (@ 203.123.16.20) on: Mon Jul 28 23:17:43 EDT 2003
  
  TN is a place where miracles can happen...
  Choclate can be a hit,
  while Anbae Sivam and KM flops
  
  Any crap movie with some big-belly heroine showing her "hips" and stuff will do well...
  Hey Ram (even with IR's one of the best score)..will be a flop.....
  
  i just can't digest...having so many loyal fans and fanatics....and IR's music can't be a hit and change the Music Industry's fate...why?...
  (this statement got nothing to do with IR's capability...ok)
  
  
  
• From: xml (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Mon Jul 28 23:34:44 EDT 2003
  
  Maddy
  How many films ARR is doing in a year. If kadalan becomes hit in north the gain is only with that movie artist and producers. Not for every one.
  One of the worst thing is several years of composing and demanding more money, composing only for MR,sankar,and some few. After ARR in the industry no of movies decreased.
  
  IR also composed telugu,tamil,malayalam. But he managed everything MR,Rajini,Kamal,mohan,ramarajan,rajkiran, etc..
  
  IR diverted the film industry towards him. With ARR it reverse. I mean all the produces are waiting for the sign of vikram,vijay,ajith,even that jimbu. If you know the past just remember even rajini also failed without IR in rajachinnaroja,nattukkoru nallavan, kodiparakkuthu. But IR could do anything.
  
  After IR the value of the MD is down. GV realised that at the last moment. Kovaithambi told in an interview "IR was a gift for us those time".
  
  
  
• From: Paran (@ 203.123.16.20) on: Tue Jul 29 00:45:14 EDT 2003
  
  Dear XMl,
  
  i think ur logic is wrong....at least i guess so..
  it was during IR's period that any movie with some hero will do good business....
  for e.g: Athisaya Piravi (not sure if it's IRs)...and some of Rajni's dumb movies....
  
  rite?...so trend didn't change at all i guess...
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.218.67) on: Tue Jul 29 04:02:17 EDT 2003
  
  ur absolutely wrong xml and paran ma'm is rite... after ARR's entry it was technicians who dominated the industry in 90's.. remember shankar,Mani,santhosh sivan,ravi-chandran, and H.sridhar(sound engg.) and many more guys had a boom in 90's.... 90's was the period of technical excellence.... and also ARR is the sole saviour of PYRAMID, and other cassette companys.. so he too has helped industry in many ways...... GV's Indira was saved from an embarassing white-wash by ARR only..... and in hindi he is the magical man... he ran havoc with Bombay,Roja,rangeela, saathiya and Lagaan..... even northies are indians rite... dunt u think they shuld also survive???
  
  
• From: kum (@ 65.211.3.40) on: Tue Jul 29 13:47:12 EDT 2003
  
  Paran,
  I guess u have some problem in understanding xml statement. If u ask anyone in TFM, they will give list of movies which are hit just for IR songs. Dont pretend as if you never seen it. I still remember, almost 10-20 movies advt in newspaper with big IR picture(only) on his Birthday.
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.131.152) on: Tue Jul 29 16:21:10 EDT 2003
  
  MADDY,
  
  how come ur so ignorant when ur posting abt technical excellence in the field. it was way back in early 80's film technicians started getting their due credit with the entry of film institute students into the field. Aabavanan , Maniratnam and Kamalhassan movies exploited this new come oppurtunity to the core.
  i still remember people speaking abt camera angles in mounaragam and the soundengineering in sathya. remember the fight sequences where the change took over frm dishyum dishyum to more realistic sound.here again IR was the pioneer.
  try remembering the song 'en kanmani en kaadhali' where the voice of singers were overlapped !!!! god that was in 1977.
  If ur speaking abt PYRAMID i can tell u abt ECHO.
  If ur speaking abt Indira i can tell u abt chinnathambi.
  and if ur speaking abt hindi i ask u to get out of this forum and go post in any HFM threads.
  
  Paran,
  for ur kind inforamtion Athisaya piravi was IRs composition with that mesmerising no. thanandana kummikotti.
  
  
• From: Jag (@ 35.11.98.63) on: Tue Jul 29 17:02:45 EDT 2003
  
  rajasaranam,
  The change in sound engineering started with telugu Shiva (Udhayam in Tamil). It was also the movie where well placed silence was used to enhance the scene. The audiographer Deepan Chatterjee and IR were the main cause for this revolution. You are right about the dishyum dishyum becoming more realistic, every MD uses it nowadays including ARR. Technical brilliance started in the 80's not in 90's. Remember the amazing Apoorva Sagothargal?? or the hilarious Michael Madan Kama Rajan??
  
  
• From: xml (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Tue Jul 29 20:44:22 EDT 2003
  
  Maddy,paran,
  You dont know the present situation in TN. For making the move the producer and director's first target is to get the date from vikram,vijay,ajith, etc..
  The actors,target is expected money and who is the director and banner.
  Nobody is bothered of MD now including ARR. They will just pick up any MD in the industry or from telugu.Don,t tell MR,sankar,bala they are the exception.
  
  I don't think that the IR situation will come back. HJ is like ARR more delay. Now YSR is trying to get back with continous hit. He takes less time,less money. Without star artist,banner he could make hit. If he contines same way the film industry will improve like the past.
  
  
  
• From: Paran (@ 203.123.16.20) on: Tue Jul 29 22:02:21 EDT 2003
  
  Aiyaaa Saamy (the collection of coins)...yenne vittedenge pa...
  
  all i said was that signing big hero's aprt from MD...is a culture that is still ongoing in TFM..that's all...
  
  and dear kum...i never pretended that i have never seen a movie being a hit just for IR...i have seen Karagatakaran..i posted that somewhere as well..
  
  that's all.....Athisaya Piravi had some good number (i can't remember)...what i am saying is that, that particular movie ran for Rajni..rite?...
  or whatever u guys saying...
  
  
• From: Thangaraj (@ 24.58.14.8) on: Tue Jul 29 23:35:26 EDT 2003
  
  80s movies were the ones that started revolution in Tamil Film technicality.
  
  I say this because I am an IR fan.
  
  There is no way me and several other IR fans here are going to accept that technical astuteness started in ARR era.
  
  Becos we all want all credit to our man IR. Nobody else shud take credit.
  
  You guys know that Mani Ratnam is a great director only becos he worked with IR. He started learning only from IR era.
  
  Anything good in tamil cinema now can be generously attributed to my "Aiyya" Ilaiya Raaasa! all bad things please its ARR and other fools fault!
  
  
• From: xml (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Tue Jul 29 23:36:41 EDT 2003
  
  Paran
  a movie being a hit just for IR
  All the mohan movies. eg udayageetham,payanangal mudivathillai, naan padum padal etc.. all mohan films.
  
  All the raj kiran films.
  Thiagarajan's movie(kopmbari mookan, etc..),
  Kozhi koovuthu,
  
  All the ramarajanfilms - engavooru pattukaran,pattukku naam adimai,karagattakaran etc..
  
  Eramana rojave
  
  Kumbakarai thangaiyah. It was runnanin more than darmadurai and rajinifans fought with the theatre owner to run against kumbakarai thangaiyah.
  
  All the RV udayakumar's movie.
  
  There just few examples.
  
  Before posting anything you try to know from some one who knows more.Don't post blindly like this.OK.
  
  
• From: xml (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Tue Jul 29 23:55:44 EDT 2003
  
  In IR time
  BR,Balumahendra,MR,etc their first choice is IR.They are least bother of the actors.They will just pick up any actor with the story.But IR is a compulsory for them. They could several make hits with new actors.Do you want a list again?.
  You should know the situation of BR,KKB after left with IT. MR saved with ARR.
  
  Same thin with Kamal,Rajini.
  
  Tell me who is caring of MD's ARR and etc..
  
  Don't tell MR and sankar.
  
  

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