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- From: mythila (@ 137.237.13.20)
on: Wed May 21 17:56:26 EDT 2003
Udhayaa, once upon a time, some stray film shootings , some unreleased films (Thank God!!!)like 'BharathiRaaja',including BRGate with songs
(Sevarali thotathile unnai nenachu
Seerikittu paayuthaiyya inda manasu)
have happened in my kukgraamam which lies on the massive laps of western ghats(TN-Kerala border).
Raajalakshmi ,with garish makeup, big eyes used my grandfather's room for her dress changes. Karthik was a big show off and very self conscious before women. We could manage to see few boring shots inspite of my grandma's '144' not to go anywhere near the film crew.
- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Wed May 21 18:12:01 EDT 2003
Isn't sevvaraLi thOttathile from anjal petti 500 or some such movie? or is it from BRGate?
- From: vijay (@ 68.16.25.50)
on: Wed May 21 18:57:12 EDT 2003
sevvarali is from Bagavathipuram railway gate. It was horribly picturized like so many other 80s songs. Kaalai nera kaatre is a good song from the same album. It was supposed to be a "thriller", havent seen the film yet.
- From: sabesan (@ 68.154.57.88)
on: Wed May 21 20:34:09 EDT 2003
GCT_Kuil - thanks for the info....
- From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52)
on: Wed May 21 22:42:56 EDT 2003
Song of the Day: ponnezhil poothadhu pudhu vaanil from kalangarai viLakkam.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/ponnezhil.rm
- The lyricist is Panchu Arunachalam. MD is MSV and sung by TMS & PS.
the song goes as follows:
TMS: sivakaami....sivakaami....
PS: oh oh ...
TMS: ponnezhil pUthadhu pudhu vAnil
veNpani thUvum nilavE nil
en manath thOttaththu vaNNap paRavai
senRadhu engE sol sol sol....
the song involves some different usage also..for example the usage of "thennai vanam" in the first charanam.
thennai vanaththinil unnai mugam thottu
eNNaththaich chonnavan vAdugirEn
eNNaththaich chonnavan vAdugirEn
un iru kaN pattu puN patta nenjathil (note the good usage of vallinams here)
un pattu kaip padap pAdugirEn
(pon)
TMS really tries to be meticulous in his pronounciation at the end of the charanam. the lines of the next charanam are also good.
munnam en uLLaththil mukkani chakkarai
aLLik koduththa pon mAdam engE
aLLik koduththa pon mAdam engE
kiNNam nirambida senkanich chARuNNa
mun vandhach chevvandhi mAlaiyengE
then PS takes over in her wonderful voice:
ponezhil pooththadhu thalaivaa vaa...
...
in the next charanam PS sings
thennavan manRaththil senthamizh kaN kondu
vandhadhu ponvaNdu pAdikkondu
vandhadhu ponvaNdu pAdikkondu
mannavan uLLaththil sondham vandhALenRu
senRadhu pUnthendral Adikkondu
pon..
this charanam sees a distinct change in mood from the earlier part of the song, and PS's voice resonates in this part, making it a wonderful experience.
i guess then these lines follow:
en udal enbadhu un udal enRa pin
ennidam kObam koLLuvadhO (an oft used imagery)
ennidam kObam koLLuvadhO
onRil onRAnapin thannaith thandhAna pin
unnidam nAnenna solluvadhO
pon..
this charanam is nothing much to write home about in its meaning. but the word usage is good and fits the tune well.
- Full lyrics in our PPP page: http://www.newtfmpage.com/ppp/ponnezhil.html
- Manisegaran writes:
"Ponnezhil Poothathu Puthuvaanil" is the first song that Panchu Arunasalam composed. He had been assisting Kannadasan for a long time. When Kannadasan did not turn up on time for the composing of the songs in Saradha, Panchu Arunasalam volunteered. As he was composing the song Manamakaley Manamakaley vaa vaa, Kannadsan turned up and corrected the following line:
"Kunamirukkum kulamirukkum Engal Vaasalil"
Therefore this is not the first song of Panchu.
When Kalangarai Vilakkam was in the offing an attempt was made to avoid Kannadasan totally. Vali and Panchu were brought in.(Music for this film was by MSV/TKR, but some records only mention the name of MSV.) It was in this film that Panchu gave his independent work. Ponnezhil poothathu is often quoted by Panchu in almost all his interviews.
The real split between Panchu and Kannadasan started in Gowravam. The film was almost completed. But the song sequences were not pictured, as Kannadasan was touring in Malaysia. I think Hindu Rangarajan was involved in the movie. The producers were waiting in Tamilonadu while Kannadasan was holidaying in Malaysia. Pancu arunasalam heard of the delay and whispered his interest in composing all the songs for Gowravam so as to avoid further delay in releasing the film on time. But there are some in the cine film who are adamant on getting Kannadasan's songs. One is Rangarajan who told off Panchu in a diplomatic way that they do not mind waiting for Kannadasan's return, whatever the time period consumed.
When Kannadasan returned Rangarajan told this move by Panchu, and kannadasan who was shocked remarked: "Naan Paalootti valatha Kili. Naalaikku athu ennoda kachery paada varutho?"
Those who were around were impressed by that remark and requested Kannadasan to use this line as a pallavi for a scene that depicts a similar seperation scene in the movie. That is how the song
"pallootti Valartha kili
pazham koduthu paartha kili
naan valartha pachai kili naalai varum kacherikku"
- Kanchana noticed a wonderful wordplay in the first charaNam:
Bhaskar, here are the two interpretations for the last line of this verse from ponnezhil pooththadhu:
munnam en uLLaththil mukkani sarkkarai
aLLik koduththa ponmAdam engE
aLLik koduththa ponmAdam engE
kiNNam nirambidach chenganich chAruNNa
munvandha chevvandhi mAlai engE
Obviously, the hero is reminiscing about the good old times and is missing the heroine. One interpretation is the straightforward one, where he is referring to the heroine as chevvandhi mAlai.
To get the other possible interpretation, split the lines as follows:
mun vandha chev (v)andhimAlai engE
"nAngaL iruvarum sErndhu kiNNam nirambidach chenganich chARuNNa andRu vandha chenniRam porundhiya azhagiya mAlaippozhudhu indRu engE pOnadhu?" (metaphorically the same meaning as before--"where are the good old times?")
Of course, we don't know whether Panchu Arunachalam intended a wordplay here, but either way the entire song is beautiful!
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.6)
on: Wed May 21 23:48:12 EDT 2003
GCT_Kuil- 'Alli vecha' is from Inimai Itho Itho-1983. (Inimai, not Ilamai!). It starred Chandrasekar.
BR Railway gate had an awesome solo by BSS too 'Thendral kaatrum anbuppaattum mangai vaazhvilethu'
bb- Thanks for SOTD. Among the best TMS-PS duets.
KV (dir: K Shankar) was among the earliest films that MSV did after his split with TKR. Good songs like 'Enai maranthathen thendraley'-PS, 'Sangey muzhangu'-SG-PS, 'Naan kaatru vaangapponen'-TMS and 'Pallavan pallavi paadattumey'-TMS
- From: kimnovakfan (@ 207.112.59.37)
on: Thu May 22 00:11:41 EDT 2003
Kalankarai vilakkam is a rip-off of alfred hitchcock's vertigo
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Thu May 22 01:16:58 EDT 2003
bb on song!Terrific duet!
This one would have suited a Sivaji movie better,i always thought!With due regards to MS sir,I feel it must be a MSV only as this song simply betrays the shift in style in violin usage.
Almost all the songs show a different style than when they were together.
Kaatruvanga ponen (the solo bangos and restrained use of accordian)
Pallavan pallavi(watch the start Minnal ooviyam in charanam starting on a high note which was generally absent when it was MSV-TKR)
Sange Muzhangu(the pronounced Mridnagam sound in the charanams)
Prob Ennai maranthathen shows a bit of MSV-TKR style.
Panju vin Kavidhai Nool aLave!Valampuri John prose mathiri ezhuthiyirukkirar.
Now looking back I feel Panchu must have developed a dislike for MSV too after Gauravam.Can saravanan throw info on how many movies/songs Pachu and Visu worked together despite this big break of a song.
Udhaya,10 naal urukku poittu varathukulla Kavidhaiyai kanamapoiduchu...
- From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28)
on: Thu May 22 01:50:48 EDT 2003
Terrific song. I had just dl'ed the mp3 a couple of days back and had been repeatedly listening to this. Brings back quite a few memories. I feel the beat is pretty good in this song. Nothing fancy, simple, yet it falls at all the right places in the melody. This by itself is an art. I was surprised by TMS' brighas when he sings "un pattu kai pada paaa..dugiren", pretty impressive. Whereas PS's brighas are not all that impressive when she sings the same line later on.
- From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219)
on: Thu May 22 02:12:31 EDT 2003
bb -
This SOTD is a nostalgia-high. Thanks!
Brings back a flood of TMS-PS duets, all waves of magic and melody...
Hearing this song now makes me yearn for:
Thottaal Poo Malarum Thodamal Naan Malarndhaen
Yezhudhadha Padal Ondru
Poomalaiyil Or Malligai
Ninaiththaen Vandhal Nooru Vayadhu
Sirippil Undagum Ragaththile
Naadu Adhai Naadu
Sondham Eppodhum Thodarkadhaithan Mudiveilladhadhu
Azhagiya Tamizh Magal Ival (I get gooseflesh everytime I listen to the opening of this one)
These songs along with Ponnezhil -
Etched in gold. 'nuf said :-)
- From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219)
on: Thu May 22 02:42:41 EDT 2003
bb -
The link died half way through when I tried to spool again. Is this my computer acting up again or? Could you please confirm?
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Thu May 22 03:03:45 EDT 2003
Naaz
Add : Oruvar meedhu oruvar saindhu from Ninaithathai mudippavan.
- From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52)
on: Thu May 22 03:18:19 EDT 2003
Naaz, the link works for me.. not sure what the problem is.
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