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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: Bala (@ 192.135.215.21) on: Wed Aug 9 17:27:21 EDT 2000
  
  Vijay,
  What really pains me about the statements made about inspirations in this forum is the fact that people jump into conclusions without knowing whether it was a coincidence or a real "lift" It is very possible that a MD composed the notes without really realising ( as you accepted) that he is getting "inspired". The tone of most the posts in this forum is that the MD did it knowingly when no one can be sure of that (As you said).
  It is always "innocent until proven guilty" rather than the other way around. I am not defending ARR but all I am saying that we cannot be sure.It is always "maybe" and the tone of the postings should also be so.
  
  
• From: SL (@ 198.95.226.224) on: Wed Aug 9 18:26:10 EDT 2000
  
  Unmai virumbi, Kannamoochi... and ratha sametha krishna are set to the same metre. That is quite obvious. But Sundar....you can't be serious at all.
  
  
• From: vamban (@ 216.190.255.35) on: Wed Aug 9 18:28:50 EDT 2000
  
  1.vandemathram -- from vandemathram
  2.jana gana mana --- lifted from national anthem.
  
  
  SL I am serious :)
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Naveen (@ 64.196.135.84) on: Wed Aug 9 19:52:45 EDT 2000
  
  looks like 'Dheeemthanana Dheemthanana' (Nadhiye song) from Rhythm is heavily inspired from 'Anbendra Mazhayile' from 'Minsara kanavu'
  
  
• From: SHYSUN (@ 202.9.162.158) on: Thu Aug 10 02:38:52 EDT 2000
  
  DEAR TFM FORUM MEMBERS ,WHY BRAG ABOUT ARR HE OF COURSE IS INSPIRED ,HE WILL DISCLOSE HIS INSPIRATION LIST ONE DAY ,NOT TO WORRY,HERE IS A SAMPLE THAT WENT UNNOTICED BY YOU ALL.
  FILM:PUKAR,SONG:ESHWAR YEH ALLAH YEH PUKAR SUNLEY
  SINGER:LATAJI,INSPIRATION:VIVA FOREVER.ARTISTE:SPICE GIRLS LAST ALBUM TOGETHER.
  PLEASE NOTE EVEN ARR CAN NOT DENY THIS FACT ,ALL OF YOU CHECK OUT THE INITIAL PIANO PIECE AND BASIC RHYTHM STYLING ,THIS GUY MAKES MUSIC WITH AN IDEA LET US APPRECIATE HIS SKILL,NOT BAD.
  
  
• From: S (@ 192.135.244.69) on: Thu Aug 10 04:12:10 EDT 2000
  
  One more feather to Deva's cap...
  
  the second interlude (a guitar piece in the middle of which hariharan goes "i luv u sona....")of "oh sona..." (copied from susanna...) is a cut-paste of the title music of some hindi movie (screened in CVO last night -i stopped flipping my channels when i heard this piece and i had just missed the name.... sigh ) starring feroz khan, hema malini & rekha.
  
  
• From: Prem Kumar (@ 202.9.162.114) on: Thu Aug 10 04:54:01 EDT 2000
  
  1. Akila Akila - Neruku Ner
  Copied from
  Buffalo Soldier - by BOB Marley
  
  2. Adi anarkali konjam keladi - Ullathai ALLi Tha
  Copied from
  In the summer time the weather is fine by - Shaggy
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 12.10.193.123) on: Thu Aug 10 05:07:31 EDT 2000
  
  Dear S...
  
  Thats old news! That Deva got inspired by two famous numbers in o sona! Its even been added in the copied list created by TFM! Check out. By the way the original is not hindi but english! Check the copied list to know more!
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221) on: Thu Aug 10 18:18:46 EDT 2000
  
  Karthik,
  Its not an inspiration.. a note-to-note copy!!!
  He has flicked the Pallavi from Suzaana and parts of the charanam from the Love story song.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221) on: Thu Aug 10 18:24:48 EDT 2000
  
  RR/bb,
  tamil songs upload panna porennu sonneengale enna aachu? links thedaliya?
  
  A small addition to the list. As a classic example of multiple inheritance Deva has used the first song in the list 'One night in bagkok' also in the song April Mathathil in Vaali. the similiarity though is in the interludes. the flute interlude in the song has been exactly reproduced in the second interlude of April Maathathil. Please include that too.
  You might also want to post the entire clip.
  
  
• From: SL (@ 198.95.226.224) on: Thu Aug 10 19:28:45 EDT 2000
  
  fan , vENdaam...please :--))) this will become another Padayappa thread.
  
  
• From: SL for Sundar (@ 198.95.226.224) on: Thu Aug 10 19:34:27 EDT 2000
  
  Cannot resist....
  ARRs "copies"
  Netru illaatha maatram from 'Madavi ponmayilaaL thOgai virithaaL'
  Shakalaka baby from 'Paattum NaanE baavamum naanE'
  kaNNamoochchi yEnada from 'Yeththam ayya yeththam manasukkuLLa ....'
  
  Others....sorry for the digression....
  
  
• From: SL's friend (@ 63.225.175.251) on: Thu Aug 10 20:39:50 EDT 2000
  
  Othagatha katigo...from mkt's ambA manam ka nindurugum...
  jumbalaka jumblaka from lilao ooo lailya lailya
  september madham from april mayele...
  chikubuku railye pallavi from various railway stations,
  saranam 1 from goodsu vandiyele,
  saraban 2 from olimayamana ethirkalam
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Naveen (@ 64.196.135.99) on: Thu Aug 10 21:06:03 EDT 2000
  
  SL for Sundar,
  
  r u sure that 'Netru illaatha maatram' is copied from 'Madavi ponmayilaaL thOgai virithaaL' ?
  
  can u give me a RA link to 'Madavi ponmayilaal' song? I'd like to hear the song.
  
  
  Naveen
  
  
• From: links provider (@ 63.22.205.236) on: Mon Aug 14 00:00:59 EDT 2000
  
  here it is
  www.rahmancopy.com/madavi_pon_1.ra
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.217) on: Mon Aug 14 08:16:59 EDT 2000
  
  I chanced to hear a horror `mac mac mac macareena' or sth like that yesterday while travelling... it's rehash of the old TMS song `unnai aRindhal, nee unnai aRindhal, ulagaththil pOrAdalAm'..especially the saranam part...
  
  I think it must be by Deva or SAR...so what's new one might ask...the most irritating latest `improvisation' of their copying is taking famous interludes of old songs and planting them in...In this `mac' kuppai, both interludes have the famous guitar piece of `AhA mella nada, mella nada mEni ennAgum' (MSV-TKR, Pudhiya paravai) and the worst part is this same piece is played as the ending piece, much similar to the original song!
  
  Someone told me this is from `kushi' and cassettes are selling like anything...aruvi, according to you, cassette sales is quite important, illE?:-))
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 64.244.40.55) on: Mon Aug 14 08:53:09 EDT 2000
  
  eden 'macarena' first half of the charanam is from 'unnai arindhaal' and second half is from 'smiyai smiyai'(KKKK)
  
  Deva 3 paata(macarena and these 2)iyum mixiele pottu oru aaatu aati koduthuttaar:))
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Mon Aug 14 12:02:20 EDT 2000
  
  this big mac song was the super-duper hit a month ago when i was in india! :-((((
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221) on: Mon Aug 14 12:47:49 EDT 2000
  
  arularacan,
  There is an argument going on other thread as to why TFM standards are going down. what u have said is just a good example of the current situation;))
  
  
• From: IRfan (@ 193.188.124.130) on: Tue Aug 15 01:13:02 EDT 2000
  
  Rhythm - Song / Water --> En Swasa Kaatre / Oru thuLi
  
  Similarity due to same tune or singer ?!!!
  
  
• From: Gyani (@ 209.43.53.162) on: Tue Aug 15 14:24:30 EDT 2000
  
  I was watching Visu's "Samsaram Athu Minsaram" and there is a song in the movie "Janaki Devi Ramani Thedi" which tunes exactly like "Kismet Teh Thum" song in Pukar. Once again ARR lifts tunes from Shanker Ganesh
  
  
• From: sl's friend (@ 216.190.255.35) on: Tue Aug 15 18:54:48 EDT 2000
  
  sl are you around. :)
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 64.244.40.55) on: Thu Aug 17 10:36:38 EDT 2000
  
  RR i think 'yaar solvadho'is suttufied from
  
  nee koduthadha thirupi koduppen
  chinna kanmani en chella kanmani (maaveeran)
  
  
• From: Baskar (@ 208.12.126.97) on: Thu Aug 17 20:20:37 EDT 2000
  
  Please add this:
  Original :"Andhi Saayara Neram, manthaarach chedi Oram" from "Manthiri Kumari"
  Copy: "Oru Thaamara Mottu, vanthu ennath thottu"
  
  
• From: Prakash (@ 193.113.185.133) on: Sun Aug 20 04:27:34 EDT 2000
  
  I had mentioned in one of previous postings that i heard a song similar to Solakkattu moolaiyile from Tajmahal on Radio.Arr fans can breathe a sigh of relief-this song is the latest Robbie Willims song Rock DJ, which was released just last month-and that also gives them something to crow about!this is currently no.1 in uk top ten.
  
  
• From: SL (@ 63.253.226.186) on: Wed Aug 23 03:41:03 EDT 2000
  
  Was watching 'Daud' (Tamil version Ottam). I have not heard the Tamil version, therefore I will refer to the Hindi songs. Shabba Shabba is a recycle of IR's 'Maana Madurayil paarthEn' sung by KJY ,SJ. The ottagaththa kattikko santham has been repeated for the umpteenth time in 'Aa Jaana' or something like that (sung by Rathod & KK). All this before completing 50 movies in his career :((((
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 194.149.80.1) on: Wed Aug 23 08:58:45 EDT 2000
  
  SL., 'Maanaa Maduraiyilee' is a nice song., But not by IR., I guess it is Devendran's., Not sure.
  NagaS
  
  
• From: gundu (@ 207.165.237.206) on: Wed Aug 23 15:50:47 EDT 2000
  
  Hi guys,
  
  FINALLY it happened ..someone copied from Deva .. (dunno if deva copied this song from anywhere else .. ).. in the latest Ash movie "hamara dil aapke pass hai", the last song from avvai shanmughi (some separation song of kamal and meena) has been copied ..I think the MDs for this hindi movie are sanjay darshan ..
  
  Bye ..
  
  
• From: Sungathan Rajah (@ 192.58.194.3) on: Fri Aug 25 14:55:40 EDT 2000
  
  Why can't we just create our own mucic. I know its really hard. I didn't think so many songs were copied.
  
  
• From: Suga Raj (@ 192.58.194.3) on: Fri Aug 25 14:59:38 EDT 2000
  
  oh one more thing... songs ... such as en manasi si si... si si si.. and the other song.. I can't remember it.. but from the same movie its copied from Ricki Martin's album. "eak doe dee.. lae lubada oh maria.. "something like this... this movie has kithu roti.. in it.. Who do mucic composers do it..why???
  
  
• From: Jee (@ 193.188.124.130) on: Sun Aug 27 00:13:18 EDT 2000
  
  One more song inspiration
  
  Film : ParthEn rasithEn
  Song : poove punnagai kAttu oru photograph-kku ..
  MD : Bharathwaj (PoovEli, kAdhal mannan, AmarkaLam ..)
  
  Original : Jeans
  Song : vArayo thozhi vArAyo thozhi vaa vandhu ..
  MD : AR Rahman
  
  Heavily inspired. You get some inspiration flashes at starting of song. And the charanam is blatantly lifted from the original.
  
  MD Bharathwaj used same singer (Sonu Nigam) for this song. The same type song may be demanded by the director (Charan), and Bharatwaj came up with this type of inspiration song.
  
  ParthEn rasithEn audio clippings available at tamilmovies.com
  
  
• From: Muralidharan (@ 4.4.41.121) on: Sun Aug 27 10:57:35 EDT 2000
  
  Hi all:
  ARR's "Pennalla Pennalla Rosaapoo" song from Uzhavan is heavily "so-called" INSPIRED from Ilayaraj's "Pesum Mani Muthu Rojakkal" song from some Kamal's old time movie !
  
  Though the original song goes in 3/2 tempo while the ARR's goes by 4/4.
  
  
  

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