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A request to amateur composers who visit this page

Topic started by Vijay (@ 212.137.205.127) on Thu Nov 16 16:58:22 EST 2000.
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I'd like to request amateur composers who visit this page to tell me if they've uploaded any of their work onto the internet and if they have, please tell me where I can listen to it. Thank You.

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• From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Wed Apr 18 20:00:58 EDT 2001
  
  RJay - Sounds real cool!
  
  I have a few things to add (since I dont have an instrument now - iam just guessing. Please correct me if I am wrong coz I dont trust my ear a lot!)
  
  Your chords go like this:
  Am - E - F - A7 | Dm -Am - Dm - E7
  
  I hear (at some places) the melody not matching the chord in that measure
  
  ex: Flute - ends with...B E (the chord u played here is Dm in this measure)
  
  Oboe beginning:
  notes - B.C (chord Am: OK)
  B.G (Chord E : Not OK)
  G.B.B B(chords F & A7: Not Ok)
  
  On the other hand this piece truly sounds classical!! Good effort!
  
  
  
• From: Naveen Jebaraj (@ 204.255.14.188) on: Fri Apr 20 13:20:59 EDT 2001
  
  Friends,
  I've uploaded piano transcription of Laxmikanth Pyarelal's 'Uyire Unakkaaga' song from 'Uyire Unakkaaga' movie.
  http://www.mp3.com/NaveenJebaraj
  I rushed a little bit during introduction other than that the piano solo has come well.
  
  Regards,
  Naveen
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 209.166.172.34) on: Fri Apr 20 13:29:44 EDT 2001
  
  Swamji
  
  Man, you have real good ears. You have amazed me with your ability to hear the chords and notes without playing on an instrument. (The only other person who has shown this in action and amazed me is Srikanth!!)
  I think this is perfect pitch (ability to pick absolute pitches and call the notes B, G etc on hearing!)
  
  Your abilities are legendary and I am sure you will make a great impact in the music world once you find your calling!
  
  Coming to my comp, I worked on the chord progression first, trying to create playable
  guitar picking and then wrote melodies over it.
  Looking back I did a good job on the other melodies and goofed up here, just relying on my
  ears. Today I tried to harmonize these melodies
  with other chords, and the progression does not
  seem right! Let me know if you have any ideas on
  how it can be done.
  
  And I would like to discuss about how you catch chords by ear. Did you spend time consciously doing it and has it become automatic now and so on.
  
  On a personal note, I urge you to take up composition and putting out your ideas for other people to hear. Dont wait for perfecting your skills. As you start publishing, you are forced to improve in ways you never thought of.
  
  At least I believe I have improved a lot in the last 2 years, when I had to force myself to put out a
  semi-cooked composition at least once a month!
  This is also an advice to other mature (a-mature) composers visiting this thread!
  
  Thanks
  RJAY
  
  
• From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Fri Apr 20 16:05:04 EDT 2001
  
  RJAY,
  Swamiji's kAdhu is better than Anaconda.
  people have nicknamed him "policekaran" he catches any incorrect chords perfectly., amazing,
  for the benefit of others, I request swamiji to write about this skill:)
  
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 209.166.172.34) on: Fri Apr 20 16:23:56 EDT 2001
  
  The reviews in this thread are becoming detailed and more helpful. We should thank Vijay. BTW, where is he?
  
  
• From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Fri Apr 20 16:49:40 EDT 2001
  
  RJay and Comment,
  
  Thanks a lot!! Atlast perseverance has paid! I was just testing my newly developed skill!
  Well, there is little or no secret to hearing the right pitch. It is practice, practice - listen, listen. I understand for some it comes naturally - they are simply born with it. I know my guitar "master" simply picks up notes by ear. When you give him a staff notation, he will hum the note in the right pitch!!Well, in my case, it was listening to different pieces on the radio, and guessing its pitch everyday.
  
  Theres two kinds of ear training actually. The one for perfect pitch and one for relative pitch. It is known that Classical musicians benefit by developing perfect pitch while jazz musicians benifit by relative.
  
  I got a book recently called "A Key Note Recognition : Relative Pitch Ear Training" by Bruce E. Arnold. It is one of the ear training books with a CD available in amazon. It has excercises (to memorize of course) to listen to pitches when you play a chord at the background. Also the shuffle play in your CD player will prevent you from guessing notes by order! Anyways, for serious musicians this book is a must.
  
  >>Did you spend time consciously doing it and has it become automatic now and so on.
  
  Yes, initially I struggled to find the right chord. I always felt that I hear something different from what I play. So once again - practice - listen -listen. Well, for me my guitar master was there to correct me initially. Now, I just pick up chords as a matter of habit! It is something which you all can develop. That is one of the goals of ear training.
  
  One small example how you can guess chords: Instead of listening to one full "block" of notes, try listening to individual notes. For example, play a C major chord with C as root. Now play it over and over again until you can "listen in your mind" its constituents in the correct order. I think it is very important for you to listen to notes "in your head" before you play.
  Now add tention notes (like the flat fifth, augmented 5th etc...) on top of this chord and listen to them individually. This is another ear training I found useful.
  
  I think I have written a lot.
  
  BTW, I just started my first composition. Sounds real muddy - so let me do some cleaning before I put it up for you to listen!!
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Fri Apr 20 17:12:03 EDT 2001
  
  BTW RJay
  On your comp - If you are using cakewalk, you can step through each bar and see if you hear the melody matching chord. I guess you wrote the progression first and composed a melody later. Well you have to be careful here and mistakes are inevitable. There are "passing" notes, and notes on sync. you should ensure that notes sync to the chord notes (especially falling right "into" the rythm).
  For example (in your case) you played B G when the chord was E - here G was the end note of that measure. Since the notes of E are E G# and B, B will match this chord but G wont. But if you made G a passing note and quickly resolved to G#, then it would sound alright. So what I am saying is, notes on the beat should fall into the chord note.
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Fri Apr 20 18:30:39 EDT 2001
  
  swamiji: kalakkungkO :-))
  
  
• From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 12.89.130.164) on: Sat Apr 21 06:51:59 EDT 2001
  
  This page is becoming an important milestone in TFM.
  
  
• From: comment (@ 65.9.136.158) on: Sat Apr 21 14:01:25 EDT 2001
  
  more than tfm, it might become a milestone for tfm "fans",
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 209.166.172.34) on: Sat Apr 21 17:15:41 EDT 2001
  
  Friends,
  I have uploaded a Classical Sonata as a contest Entry:
  http://www.acidplanet.com/Lounge/ArtistDetail.asp?ArtistName=RJAY
  
  Comments are welcome
  
  
• From: Naveen Jebaraj (@ 204.255.14.188) on: Mon Apr 23 14:01:21 EDT 2001
  
  Hi all,
  I've composed a Symphony (Symphony in A Major)(Not a full length.. just compact!) Please check http://www.idrive.com/njmusic
  I've uploaded the 1st movement. your comments are welcome.
  
  Regards,
  Naveen
  
  
• From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Mon Apr 23 14:51:51 EDT 2001
  
  http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/32/jsri.html
  
  guys, my next song is online,
  walking alone with Emajor.
  
  (this seems to be a week of Western classical music :)
  
  
• From: bb (@ 216.217.80.201) on: Mon Apr 23 20:39:08 EDT 2001
  
  srikanth, listened to your piece. It was beautiful. I wouldn't classify it as a fusion work though:)
  
  
• From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Tue Apr 24 10:05:53 EDT 2001
  
  bb,thanks for the comments.
  
  Since I have few ragas embedded in the score, i called it as fusion :)
  
  
• From: Comment (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Fri Apr 27 08:51:27 EDT 2001
  
  Our next song is online....
  
  http://www.mp3.com/jsri
  
  The Wedding song celebrates the Hindu wedding rituals and the myths associated with them. The lyrics use numbers to explain the different aspects of these rituals and myths. This song also explains the significance of Indian marriages.
  Udhaya has a done a great job in writing the lyrics, it took about 2 hrs for him to complete this song. I simply salute his imagination.
  
  Vijay with his soft and sweet voice renders the song very well. (I have also tried to sing for the first time! the first four lines in the prelude :)
  
  Please post your comments.
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.200.4) on: Fri Apr 27 10:35:46 EDT 2001
  
  Srikanth
  Wonderful man.
  Brings out the mood very nicely and nice singing by Vijay. Udhaya's lyrics is also pretty impressive.
  Overall great effort by your team.
  Looking forward for more from you and your team.
  
  
• From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Fri Apr 27 10:44:59 EDT 2001
  
  UV, thanks.
  Whats your email, sorry i thought of replying to you sometime ago, but was very busy at work and forgot about it.
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.200.4) on: Fri Apr 27 11:14:39 EDT 2001
  
  My email is dganesha@yahoo.com.
  Can I give links to you site from my mp3 site.
  
  
  
• From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Fri Apr 27 11:38:17 EDT 2001
  
  Karumbu thinna kooliya...go for it..
  thanks for the help.:)
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 209.166.172.34) on: Fri Apr 27 16:52:38 EDT 2001
  
  Naveen, Srikanth,
  Sorry for the delay. I listened to both
  symphonies many times. Wonderful! Wonderful!
  
  Srikanth, a few quick comments:
  
  1. Triton sound rocks!! Cello, french horn (oboe?), harp are sizzling
  2. Style changes are amazing'
  3. For the first two minutes you have pretty much one theme playing variations. (actually that is too long to your standards!!!)
  If you could bring in the second theme and show it a little bit in 30 seconds, it would improve the
  structure a lot. Lots of nice ideas are packed after 3:30 seconds. That is not fair!
  4. I realized that your cello backing is actualling playing a percussive folk rhythm! That is so effective.
  
  I could get a little bit of Humsadhwani in the beginning. What ragas have you touched?
  
  RJAY
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 209.166.172.34) on: Fri Apr 27 16:53:27 EDT 2001
  
  Naveen
  I will listen a few more times and get back to you. I was awed by the counterpoints! Great job!
  RJAY
  
  

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