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- From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201)
on: Mon Apr 16 18:41:10 EDT 2001
Rajesh, yes this not the correct place. But heres what u can do
1. Get Joystick/MIDI cable or USB/MIDI interface.
2. Do the connections.
3. Go to Multimedia settings and set your MIDI port to use MPU400/or any external MIDI port. The system will detect all the external ports - so it should show up there.
4. Install a MIDI editing software - like Cakewalk, Cubase etc..
5. Go through the software's help and see how you should configure it to send MIDI messages through the port your MIDI cable is connected to.
BTW, theres so much stuff available online that would tell u better than I do!
Happy sequencing!
- From: baju (@ 203.116.61.132)
on: Tue Apr 17 02:08:17 EDT 2001
swasame is purely yaman kalyani
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.233)
on: Tue Apr 17 14:41:28 EDT 2001
Swaasame seems to be Hameer Kalyani/Behag based... although the charanams seem to include other notes as well...
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.233)
on: Tue Apr 17 14:57:49 EDT 2001
haris - vatta Nilavae sounds like Mishra Shivaranjani..
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.233)
on: Tue Apr 17 15:03:17 EDT 2001
sumathy - thendral varum sounds like a combo of shankarabharanam and hamsadhvani... (I did notice a dha1)
- From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170)
on: Tue Apr 17 19:10:33 EDT 2001
Thanks IR - can u gimme the exact notes for MisraSR and couple of other TF songs in that raga? what'd u think of 'potri padadi' from DM? and, is pattu poove from chembaruthi in sankarabaranam?
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.217)
on: Wed Apr 18 10:51:24 EDT 2001
You are welcome haris...
Mishra Shivaranjani: Sa Ri2 Ga2 pa Dha2 Sa
Sa Dha2 Pa Ga3 Ga2 Ri2 Sa
The Ga3 is soooo beautiful if used sparingly... That would be the only diff between Shivaranjani and Mishra Shivaranjani..
Some songs in Shiva Ranjani/Mishra Shivaranjani that come to my mind are:
Enadhu Gaanam Un Kaadhil Vizhavillayaa
Thanneerai Kaadhalikkum ?? or Thangaththai Kaadhalikkum Pengalaayillai..
Vaa Vaa anbe Anbe kaadhal Nenje Nenje
Oru Jeevan Thaan Un Paadal thaan oyaamal Isaikindradhu...
Unnai thaane Thanjam Endru Nambi vandhen maane
would listen to Potri Paadadi and post - as sindhuja said the beginning sounds like Kaapi :)
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.217)
on: Wed Apr 18 10:59:04 EDT 2001
hmmm Potri Paadadi... first stanza: first impression is Kaapi - when I listened to it a couple of times - I am beginning to think it is dwijavanthi :) - charanams seem to have shankarabharanam notes predominantly :) :)
Makkals?? What do you think?? :)
- From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170)
on: Wed Apr 18 13:21:26 EDT 2001
ok. atleast going by the swarams i arrived at for 'vatta nilavE' - it can't be MisraSR. it has predominant m1 and d1. ( but some how the feel is - its close to SR.)
- From: MS (@ )
on: Wed Apr 18 14:56:20 EDT 2001
haris:
I dont hear m1 at all in the entire song ( except in the chords). it seems to be very mushc in mishra shivaranjani.
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.217)
on: Wed Apr 18 14:57:09 EDT 2001
haris... where do you hear ma1 and dha1... I would listen again... :)
- From: SL (@ 63.253.226.64)
on: Wed Apr 18 16:52:28 EDT 2001
Pallavi and anupallavi of 'pOtri pAdadi' use G2 as well as G3. Charanams use N2 as well N3 and G3 and M1.
- From: fdfhfhhjjj (@ 213.237.15.4)
on: Thu Apr 19 06:36:43 EDT 2001
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- From: Bharath (@ 192.25.158.12)
on: Thu Apr 19 14:34:02 EDT 2001
Hi,
I would like to know the raagas of the following songs
*from agni natchathram.
1) ninnukori varanam- I think its mohanam but not sure
2)roja poo vaadi vanthathu-
3) va va anbe anbe -
4)thoongatha vizhikal rendu-
* from roja
1) kadhal rojave -
2) pudhu vellai mazhai -
thanks in advance
bye
bharath
- From: Bharath (@ 192.25.158.12)
on: Thu Apr 19 14:36:30 EDT 2001
the song in minnae "ore Nyabagame" ? what raagam it is and has it been sung only in arohanam only? so as it make it similar to "kalaivaniye" in sindhu bhairavi.
bye
bharath
- From: Bharath (@ 192.25.158.12)
on: Thu Apr 19 14:40:56 EDT 2001
haris some more sivaranjanis wud be
1) adi aathadi
2)solai pushpangale
3) valli valli ena vandhan
4)kuyil paatu
5)kannum kannum kollai adithaal
6)poralee ponnuthayee
i now know va va anbe anbe is sivaranjani i wud like to know the others
bye
bharath
- From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201)
on: Thu Apr 19 17:45:51 EDT 2001
Poralle ponnuthayee? Is it Sivaranjani?
- From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170)
on: Thu Apr 19 18:01:42 EDT 2001
porale, ninnukori- mohanam
thoongadha vizhigal - amridhavarshini
- From: SL (@ 63.253.226.40)
on: Thu Apr 19 19:50:12 EDT 2001
'pOraLE...' starts with mohanam and touches N2 in the line 'vetkaththa vittu thaLLammA..'. In the charaNam, it makes generous use of G2 (in addition to G3) and N2 too.
- From: isai_aarvam (@ 131.124.100.125)
on: Thu Apr 19 22:29:08 EDT 2001
"maanguyilae poonguyilae" from karakattakaran - which raga it is based on?
- From: saketh@binghamton (@ 159.48.248.2)
on: Fri Apr 20 08:09:46 EDT 2001
what about 'theendai...' from en swasa katre?
- From: sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.80)
on: Fri Apr 20 08:46:27 EDT 2001
theendai-ananda bhairavi.
has very light shades of kaanadaa too ; i feel.
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.217)
on: Fri Apr 20 10:30:15 EDT 2001
Swamiji - yes Poraale ponnuthayi has traces of Shivaranjani in the charanams...
as SL mentioned - it starts off with mohanam..
sounds like Jana Sammodhini ( Sa Ni2 Dha2 pa Ga3 Ri2 sa) in the line : vetkatha "vittu thallaama"
Uses Shiva Ranjani notes a lot in the charanams... (uses ga2 - and mohanam with Ga2 instead of ga3 = Shivaranjani)
like: Manasula "Kallamilla", "Vyaazhanum Velliyum Irupadhu Dhooramilla" etc...
I guess I heard a ma1 in the "yelaelo yelaelo" humming between pallavi and charanam...
- From: kushma nand (@ 207.230.248.50)
on: Fri Apr 20 17:13:49 EDT 2001
where wouldi find written hindi song, i do have some written songs but right now i cannot find the site
- From: MS (@ 129.252.222.2)
on: Fri Apr 20 19:21:22 EDT 2001
Bharath:
1) ninnukori varanam- mohanam
2)roja poo vaadi vanthathu- idhukku raagam solradhu anyaayam..but still natabhairavi scale
3) va va anbe anbe - shivaranjani with a beautiful D1 prayogam (kaalai maalai raaththiri's end).
4)thoongatha vizhikal rendu- amrutha varshini
5) kaadhal rojave - kaapi + aanandha bhairavi (humming) ?
6) pudhu veLLai mazai - dharbaari kaanada saayal irukku..aana kalappadam.
others:
1) maanguyile - predominantly keeravaaNi
2) theeNDai - aanandha bhairavi maadhiri thaan irukku
- From: Satish (@ 203.199.197.83)
on: Mon Apr 23 04:52:19 EDT 2001
What is the base raga for the song Vasegara film Minnale sung by Bombay Jayashree?
- From: sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.207)
on: Mon Apr 23 05:32:52 EDT 2001
satish,
i think this has been discussed earlier.it is natabhairavi.
- From: Prasanna (@ 209.176.221.66)
on: Mon Apr 23 18:17:49 EDT 2001
I think the best example for Mishra Shiv Ranjani is the song "Mere Naina Savan" in the Hindi film "Mehbooba" sung by Kishore Kumar and composed by R.D.Burman. The G3 is used perfectly in that song.
- From: Satish (@ 203.199.197.83)
on: Mon Apr 23 23:50:27 EDT 2001
What is the base raga for the son Vasegara in film Minnale sung by Bombay Jeyashree
- From: Satish (@ 203.199.197.83)
on: Mon Apr 23 23:52:14 EDT 2001
Sorry for posing the Vasegara question again
Satish
- From: s.silva kumar (@ 161.142.100.81)
on: Tue Apr 24 05:28:33 EDT 2001
dear raaga,
We want to listen a song from pachai nirema
[alai payuthey],solamal thotta[deena],margali povea[may madham],kanaleane[bombay],sengatrea
[taj mahal],and rathiri veyil tharum[appu].
- From: A.Rajeswaran (@ 161.142.100.81)
on: Tue Apr 24 05:41:58 EDT 2001
dear ragga :
I'm Rajes from Tampin Negeri Sembilan.
I want to dedicate a song from ithu kathala
[thuluvatho elamai]to my family,relative and friends.
- From: . (@ 164.164.82.20)
on: Tue Apr 24 06:43:02 EDT 2001
A.Rajeswaran:
Please do. I dont think anybody will have any objections to that!
- From: Geetha (@ 213.11.117.254)
on: Tue Apr 24 07:49:19 EDT 2001
saketh@binghamton & Sindhuja: 'Theendai' from En Swaasa Kaatre
This song is in the Raga SRI - It is one of the Gana Ragas. The very popular Thyagaraja GEM in this raga, Endharomahanubhavulu is in the same Ragam, SRI RAGAM.....
Here are some details of Sri Raga
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From Mela 22 Karaharapriya - This Arohanam/Avarohanam is from the Thygaraja School of Music. Dikshitar School takes a different version, with the Avarohanam S N2 P M1 R2 G2 R2 S
Arohanam: S R2 M1 P N2 S
Avarohanam: SN2PD2N2PM1R2G2R2S
Sri and Kaanada share the same Melakartha, Karaharapriya. Hence, you feel touches of those two, however, this song, Theendai takes PURE Sri Ragam. The link you feel with Kaanada or Dharbari Kaanada is simply because of this.
A good song to measure Kaanada Raga is Alaypayudhe Kanna, so is Poo Maalai Vaangi Vandhal from the movie Sindhubairavhi.
As for Dharbari Kaanada with touches of Sri, listen to Kaatre un Vaasal from Rhythm.
Nee Kaatru Naan Maram seems to also be Sri with Dharbari touches.
Malare Mounama is in Dharbari Kaanada.
Konjum Minakale from KK is a mixture of Bhrindhavana Saaranga, Sri and Madhyamavathi, all derivatives of Karaharapriya.
As for Anandhabairavhi, listen to ARR's 'Mettu Podu' which is mainly in this Raga(all the paryogams are not followed in the Classical sense though) and also listen to 'Mellisiye', also mainly in Anandhabairavhi. Deva's 'Konja naal poaru thalaiva' is also in Anandhabairavhi. This Raga is a janya(derivative) of the Melakartha NATABAIRAVHI, Number 20.
- From: saketh@binghamton (@ 159.48.248.2)
on: Tue Apr 24 12:03:11 EDT 2001
What ragam is "Vaa vaa anbe... poojai undu (uuu...)"? Is it Hamsanandhi? It sounds like "Vedam Anuvil varum nadham..." from Salangai Oli, which I think is Hamsanandhi...
Experts?
Thanks Geetha...
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