Raga of song please
Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
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The popular notation used on this page. The twelve notes of an octave are the following.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 S R1 R2 R3 G3 M1 M2 P D1 D2 D3 N3 G1 G2 N1 N2
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- From: haris (@ 148.87.19.74)
on: Mon Dec 3 17:26:05 EST 2001
heard 'enakkena erkanave' from parthen rasithen? i think bharathwaj is the only MD who has tried hamsanadham - other than IR.
- From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114)
on: Mon Dec 3 18:29:25 EST 2001
Haris : MalargaLae malargaLae (Love Bords - MD : ARR) is in Hamsanaadham
Gayathri: Sreenivas Ussele Ussele...
Eppo Varuvaaro - is Jonpuri.
- From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114)
on: Mon Dec 3 18:34:59 EST 2001
MGR: "Mudhal kanavae" Starts as Natabhairavi..
(sounds very much like-"Ivan yaaro Ivan yaaro vandhadhu enakkaga" in "Minnalae")
then jumps to Shanmugapriya in the stanzas.
- From: haris (@ 148.87.19.74)
on: Mon Dec 3 19:43:15 EST 2001
Vidhya- thought 'malargale' is saranga or close to it.
- From: MGR (@ 205.188.192.46)
on: Mon Dec 3 20:22:09 EST 2001
haris: 'enakena erkanave' is based on kapi, i think. I find some good usage of kapi in it.
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Tue Dec 4 06:24:13 EST 2001
dear GAYATRI...i thought u promised me an explaination for this, remember?
From: Gayathri (@ 64.26.201.253) on: Tue Oct 23 02:42:57 EDT 2001
IR fan,
Vellai Pura Ondru - Puthukavithai,Malayoram Mayile - Oruvar Vaazhum Aalayam...both r yaman kalyaani.
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well?
- From: mandu chloride (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Tue Dec 4 06:25:32 EST 2001
:-(
- From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114)
on: Tue Dec 4 12:47:30 EST 2001
MGR: firt line of "enakkena aerkanavae piRandhavaL" starts off as Kaapi.
But from the second line "ennullae ennullae aedhaedho", it is Hamsanaadham.
Haris: In the database, I see "MalargaLae" listed as "Saaranga". I see traces of Hamsanaadham in the song.
- From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162)
on: Tue Dec 4 15:34:47 EST 2001
somebody pls tell me the raagas of nila kaaigirathu (indira), macha machiniye (star), aagaaya vennilave (arangettraveLai). Thanx
- From: balaji (@ 203.116.61.132)
on: Tue Dec 4 20:37:29 EST 2001
NILA KAAIKIRATHU is supposed to be BEHAG!
and
Macha Machiniye (MAANDHAARI)
AAGAYA VENILLAVE (KAANADA FAMILY) DHARBHARI KAANADA
- From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162)
on: Wed Dec 5 05:03:00 EST 2001
thanks balaji
- From: MGR (@ 199.168.32.5)
on: Wed Dec 5 13:15:07 EST 2001
Thanks, Vidhya. In 'enakena erkanave', even in the charanam first lines, there is a good amount of kapi. i never thought this song had hamsanadham. i will try playing it again.
- From: MGR (@ 199.168.32.5)
on: Wed Dec 5 13:20:36 EST 2001
I noticed a peculiar usage of swarams (m1 p d1, p d2 n1, n1 d2 d1..all in same sequence) in the following songs: Vennilave vennilave BGM, Manasukul oru puyal charanam, Venmathi venmathi charanam. All are interestingly in Keeravani ! Is this just my illusion or a peeping from a different raaga ? Somebody please...
- From: RR (@ )
on: Wed Dec 5 21:47:35 EST 2001
Bharatwaj has actually given a pure hamsanadham before: 'oru poo ezhudhum kavithai' (pooveli).
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Wed Dec 5 23:45:15 EST 2001
Raga Quiz....The links are below ( quiz eh?!! IR_Fan, what an ingenious way to say you do not know :-)...anyways....please help)
FILM: AZHAGKI - Link is given below http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/moviedetail.asp?mid=T0000383
FILM: KAASI - Link is given belowhttp://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/moviedetail.asp?mid=T0000389
- From: MGR (@ 199.168.32.7)
on: Thu Dec 6 17:57:05 EST 2001
Guys, Is the song 'intha veenaiku theriyathu' from Balanchander drama (rayil sneham) available somewhere in web ?
- From: ram (@ 134.121.73.24)
on: Thu Dec 6 18:50:41 EST 2001
Guys,
I wanna know raaga of Keladi Kanmani in Film Puthu puthu arthangal.....
It does heve traces of Natabairavi but I'm not sure....
can nebody confirm?
- From: mandu chloride(adakki vasikara phase) (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Fri Dec 7 00:40:08 EST 2001
what raagam is 'sollayo vaayi tirandu..' from the movie 'moghamul'?
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126)
on: Fri Dec 7 01:41:58 EST 2001
neha,
is it poorya danashri/kamavardhini? because to me the starting line has resemblance of ninnai charanadaindhaen from Bharathi and I heard it is in poorya danashri/kamavardhini a.k.a pantuvaraLi.
no need to say we need verification by pundits.
so lets keep fingers crosed XX_
- From: mandu chloride (CATting phase) (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Fri Dec 7 02:34:03 EST 2001
mandu thought.. (yes i can think...) it sounded vaguely like shanmugapriya.. but i yam prbbly wrong... let us see what the pundits say.. XX
- From: IR_Fan (aka) non_PTRTT (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Fri Dec 7 02:47:21 EST 2001
kupps, Nope...(PANTHUVARALI sounds lot lot more heavier than SHANMUGAPRIYA. Even the duet song "ROJAAVAI THALAATUM THENDRAL" from "NINAIVELLAM NITHYA" is so heavy)
And MANDU, Bingo...u r right...and it is not vague SHANMUGAPRIYA but pure SHANMUGAPRIYA :-)
- From: mandu chloride(use as sedative only) (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Fri Dec 7 03:17:15 EST 2001
thank god for once i am right! plz everyone pray for mandu on sunday.. CAT. :-( slightly nervous aa irruku.
also... what raagam is "kamalam paada..." in the same movie?
- From: mandu chloride(use as sedative only) (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Fri Dec 7 03:17:43 EST 2001
thank god for once i am right! plz everyone pray for mandu on sunday.. CAT. :-( slightly nervous aa irruku. PUUURE shanmugapriya eh? lol
also... what raagam is "kamalam paada..." in the same movie?
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Fri Dec 7 04:18:31 EST 2001
MANDU...Kamalam paadha kamalam is raga RAMAPRIYA...
Also check if this link can help you...
http://ilaiyaraaja_ragam.tripod.com/ilaiyaraaja_ragam/id5.html
Good luck for your CAT.
- From: mandu (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Fri Dec 7 04:41:38 EST 2001
IR_Fan, THANKS A LOT!
yup the link is great. and also .. thangyou for luck ... am goin to need it. :-)
- From: ram (@ 134.121.73.24)
on: Fri Dec 7 15:17:42 EST 2001
hey guys,
sollayo vai thiranthu is agmark shanmugapriya....
can u pls answer my prev query regarding Keladi Kanmani in Pudu pudu arthangal?
- From: MGR (@ 199.168.32.7)
on: Fri Dec 7 15:29:31 EST 2001
Ram, i vaguely remember 'keladi kanmani' as Sindu bhairavi. need to double check.
- From: ram (@ 134.121.73.24)
on: Fri Dec 7 15:38:29 EST 2001
I'm sure it isn't sindu bairavi,it has Natabairavi saayal,but i'm not sure
i feel Chinna Raasave in Walter vetrivel is Lathangi but many argue it as sarasangi,
can anyone convince me that I'm wrong?
- From: RAM (@ 134.121.73.24)
on: Fri Dec 7 15:45:41 EST 2001
hai,
although I dont have much knowledge on swara,99% I get the raga for a song rite....
basedd on that I judge Chinna Rasave as Lathangi b'cos it has more of Kalyani saayal than charukesi's,but it does has traces of maayamalavagowlai which are characteristics features of both sarasaangi and lathangi
when i gave a second thought abt the song,I felt it could be either way.
PLS SOMEONE HELP ME OUT......
- From: ram (@ 134.121.73.24)
on: Fri Dec 7 15:49:19 EST 2001
I do remember that there is a puriya danasri peice by IR,at present I'm not able to recollect someone pls help me
- From: BK (@ 134.121.73.24)
on: Fri Dec 7 21:28:29 EST 2001
hai ram,
I think itz lathangi
- From: IR (@ 4.3.188.93)
on: Sun Dec 9 11:29:58 EST 2001
ram, Chinna raasave is in Sarasaangi - it is the sudhdha madhyama counterpart of Lathangi.
there are clear ga3 ma1 pa - ma1 pa dha1 - pa dha1 ni3 phrases in the song (ada mochchukko?? mochchukko raavellaam)
- From: IR (@ 4.3.188.93)
on: Sun Dec 9 11:31:10 EST 2001
PUrya Dhanashree song by IR - Ninnai CharaNadaindhen - am sure there are tons of other songs in this raaga by him....
- From: ram (@ 134.121.73.27)
on: Sun Dec 9 17:10:51 EST 2001
IR Thanx for the clarification,
i thought ninnai charan adainthen is panthuvarali
- From: IsaiPriyan (@ 164.164.86.66)
on: Sun Dec 9 21:50:44 EST 2001
Is the song "Thandhana Thandhana Thai Maasam" from Thavasi based on Sudha Dhanyasi ?
The charanam has traces of "Maasi Maasam" and "Vizhiyil Vizhundhu" in some places.
Experts plz clarify.
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Mon Dec 10 00:13:03 EST 2001
isaipriyan..its a blatant lift from 'sempoove poove' from chiraichalai..(especially listen to the first interlude)...that would explain the Sudhdhanyasi effect u r talking about. :-)
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Mon Dec 10 00:13:56 EST 2001
typo...sudhadhanyasi...
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