Raga of song please
Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
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- From: Kupps (@ atlwebproxy2.core.hp.com)
on: Tue Jul 31 05:19:51 EDT 2001
Maalayil Yaaro->Sudhdha Dhanyasi (source: RG's site)
- From: Kupps (@ atlwebproxy2.core.hp.com)
on: Tue Jul 31 06:07:28 EDT 2001
Lochana kamala -> Dharbaar(source:RG's site)
Roja Poonthottam -> Keeravaani(source:RG's site)
- From: hihi:-) (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Tue Jul 31 12:09:30 EDT 2001
ms: mmg and vakuLabharaNam differ only in nishadham (they are next to each other in the mELakarthA scheme). i haven't heard ennuyirE ennuyirE en AruyirE for a long time now; but from what i remember, it doesn't sound like mmg.
- From: Vasu (@ ss07.ny.us.ibm.com)
on: Tue Jul 31 12:23:16 EDT 2001
Hey!Ram,
Just a small correction. The kriti from Sindhubhairavi movie is actually Yochana kamala lochana (not Lochana kamala Lochana). I think the meanin goes like "Do you still have to think to protect me...". It is set in raga Durbar as mentioned by Kupps.
- From: MS (@ cache145.sc.edu)
on: Tue Jul 31 13:49:27 EDT 2001
aruL:
yes. I took back my statement on MMG. NishaadhaththilEyE adipattu pOchchu. The song it comes very close to is "aarum adhu aazam illai" which clearly has ni2 (as in ni1 ni2 ni3) in it.
(1)Maalayil Yaaro (Kshatriyan) - sudhdha dhanyaasi
2) Bhoopalam Isaikkum (Thooral Ninnu pochu) - gowri manohari
3) Kudagu Malai Kaatril Oru (Karakattakaran) -mohanam based
4) Lochana Kamala Lochana (Sindhu Bhairavi) - dharbaar
5) Pon Maaney Kobam Eno (Oru Kaidhiyin Diary) - shivaranjini
6) Oru Pattampoochi (Kadhalukku Mariyaadhai) - naattai
7) Roja Poonthottam (Kannukkul Nilavu) - simmEndhra madhyamam
8) Thalaattum Poongatru (Gopura Vasaliley)- dharmaavathi ?
- From: vijay (@ cache145.sc.edu)
on: Tue Jul 31 14:38:33 EDT 2001
I thought thalaattum poongaatru was based on Simmendramadhyamam?
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.235)
on: Tue Jul 31 14:53:54 EDT 2001
1) Maalayil Yaaro - Sudhdha dhanyasi
2) Bhoopalam Isaikkum - Gowri Manohari
3) Kudagu Malai Kaatril Oru - Mishra Shivaranjani based (remember ma2 is also used!!!!!)
4) Yochana Kamala Lochana Nannu Brova - Dharbar
5) Pon Maaney Kobam Eno - Shivaranjani
6) Oru Pattampoochi - Vaagadeeshwari Based - not pure Vaagadeeshwari! - ( I think it is Ni2 that would make me classify
this song under Vaagadeeshwari instead of Chalanaattai MS (Ni3)
7) Roja Poonthottam - Keeravani and Simmhendra Madhyamam (both Ma1 and Ma2) based
8) Thalaattum Poongatru - Simmhendra madhyamam
- From: MS (@ cache145.sc.edu)
on: Tue Jul 31 17:24:03 EDT 2001
There was a discussion about raga vibhaavari when I said there is a song with the line " vibhaavari raagam". It is in the film called Rishyasrungan. The link is as follows:
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/VV000H05
Last but one song int eh list. Please let me know which raga it is in. Very good melody.
- From: RR (@ krdlfirewall.krdl.org.sg)
on: Wed Aug 1 03:32:08 EDT 2001
Anyone getting the 'unable to connect to server' for songs on MIO (MusicIndiaOnline)? I can't play any song on this site, but I used to till recently. I can however play raaga.com songs fine. Have tried 'auto-configure' but still cannot.
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.206)
on: Wed Aug 1 15:56:19 EDT 2001
no RR - am able to listen to songs from MIO site fine :-)
dhool.com is also back in action :-)
- From: IsaiPriyan (@ 164.164.86.66)
on: Thu Aug 2 09:16:59 EDT 2001
Well, there has been lots of confusion about what raga "Ninnai Charan Adainthen" (Bharathi) is based on. Initially I thought it was "Hamsanandhi", as it had shades of "Putham Pudhu Poo Poothadho". But later I read in DFs that it is raga "Purvi Kalyani" and now "Purvi Dharshini" ::-)) Can someone clarify ? And, if at all there is a Shruthibedham in the song, where does it occur ?
Also had some confusion for "Kootathile Koyil Puraa" (Idhaya Koyil). Initially thought i was "Bageshri" (on the lines of "Kaaviyam Paada vaa" and "Koluse Koluse"). But my friend says it is "Sriranjani". I strictly difer on this.
Isai experts, pls clarify
- From: IR (@ bstnma1-ar1-189-065.bstnma1.dsl.gtei.net)
on: Thu Aug 2 10:53:32 EDT 2001
ISaiPriyan - we had a discussion on the raga of Ninnai Charanadaindhen - it is pure Panthuvarali/Purya DHanashree (hindhusthani equivalent of Carnatic Panthuvarali)
- From: MS (@ ch-1317.che.sc.edu)
on: Thu Aug 2 12:58:23 EDT 2001
IR:
Isaipriyan's qn is very interesting. Can u please help us with the aaro/avaro of Bageshri and sriranjani ?
- From: IR (@ bstnma1-ar1-189-065.bstnma1.dsl.gtei.net)
on: Thu Aug 2 13:24:07 EDT 2001
MS - I did not want to post on that before I had a chance to listen to that song again.
Both Baageshri and Sriranjani are Karaharapriya janya ragas and hence the similarity!
Baageshri
Sa Ga2 Ma1 Dha2 Ni2 Sa
Sa Ni2 Da2 Ma1 Pa Ga2 Ma1 Ri2 Sa
SriRanjani
Sa Ri2 Ga2 Ma1 Dha2 Ni2 Sa
Sa Ni2 Dha2 Ma1 Ga2 Ri2 Sa
Doesn't Kootathile Kovil pura take Ga3? I may be wrong! Need to listen before I say anything :-) Bahudhari, may be?? Would post again soon :-)
- From: MS (@ ch-1317.che.sc.edu)
on: Thu Aug 2 13:45:19 EDT 2001
No. it does not take Ga3 AFAIK. Going by the swaras you have laid down, it seems to be sriranjanish.
The swaras that come at the end of koottaththile kovil pura line up as follows:
s g m p d n s n s g m
ns ns d
dn dn p
p m g n d p s n d
pd ns gm p
g m g m g s
g m p m g s
pp nn dd ss rr gg
p d n s g m p
It seems like there is no characteristic prayogam of Baageshri atleast in the end swaras. SO it is another sri-ranjani number in IR's repertoire, I guess.
What a lovely composition with SPB infusing life in every word of the song !
- From: MS (@ ch-1317.che.sc.edu)
on: Thu Aug 2 13:58:28 EDT 2001
adada...withdrawing my statement on ga3. IR - u seem to be right :-) pOnaa pOradhu :-)
- From: baju (@ proxyc4.starhub.net.sg)
on: Thu Aug 2 22:18:00 EDT 2001
Yeah you are right? I'd been trying to
listen to songs from music india
but get this error since a week
rtsp://216.35.213.194/err.rm
- From: RR (@ 192.122.139.203)
on: Fri Aug 3 22:58:55 EDT 2001
Heard off the raga Palasi Kafi? 'Gangai karai thottam' (vaanambadi) seems to be in this raga. Source: today's KVM tribute article in Hindu
- From: Raj (@ adsl-63-207-100-147.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net)
on: Sat Aug 4 18:13:59 EDT 2001
Hello anyone,
Is the song :Yesn Swassa Kattare" in the movie Yen swassa kaatre is based on the raag Neelambari?
- From: baju (@ proxyc4.starhub.net.sg)
on: Sun Aug 5 22:34:10 EDT 2001
Raj
En swasa katre is based on kurinji & neelambari
.. Correct me if i'm wrong
- From: Raghu (@ 164.164.79.36)
on: Mon Aug 6 01:22:46 EDT 2001
Is the song athaan varuvaga in Dum dum dum set in mohanam ?
also ragsiyamai from the same film .., isnt it malayamarutham ?
- From: IsaiPriyan (@ 164.164.86.66)
on: Mon Aug 6 07:14:57 EDT 2001
Raghu,Yes "Ragasiyamaai" is Malayamarutham ?
I am not sure abt "Athaan Varuvaaga". Have to hear it again.
- From: Anjali (@ bo-117-254.businessobjects.com)
on: Mon Aug 6 13:27:04 EDT 2001
Raghu - right on both counts
MS: koottaththile kovil pura can't be in Sriranjani according to the swaras you have put, as Sriranjani is S R G M D N S | S N D M G R S
It is based on s Hindustani Raga, which I think is a Janya of Hari Kamboji, maybe Kamaaj!
Raj: En Swaasa Kaatru is in Neelambari - there is a theme of this Raga throughout the film.
- From: MS (@ ch-1317.che.sc.edu)
on: Mon Aug 6 13:37:50 EDT 2001
Angeli:
Yes it is not. That is why I withdrew my statement. I think IR's opinion on that song was that it is set in bahudhaari. Can someone post the swaras and explain ?
- From: IR (@ bstnma1-ar1-189-197.bstnma1.dsl.gtei.net)
on: Mon Aug 6 14:25:24 EDT 2001
Angeli:
Isn't Khamaaj the equivalent of Hari Khambodi mela :-)
MS - Bahudhari is a janya of HK - Sa Ga3 Ma1 pa dha2 ni2 sa - sa ni2 pa ma1 ga3 sa
Please post a link for that song - let me listen again. if it takes a dha2 in avaro - it could even be Karnaataka Khamas - again a janya of HK - the only diff between this raga and Bahudhari is that Karnataka Khamas includes dha2 in the avaro too. ( sa ni2 dha 2 pa ma1 ga3 sa)
- From: MS (@ ch-1317.che.sc.edu)
on: Mon Aug 6 17:05:14 EDT 2001
While humming vaishnava janato ( not the hey ram number) I found it easily sails into "malargaLai pOl thangai urangugiraaL". Especially the the end line of charaNam is very similar to the prayogam in Vaishnava janato. Can somebody clarify ?
- From: CR (@ host213-122-90-234.btinternet.com)
on: Mon Aug 6 17:31:12 EDT 2001
Hey guys I am a newcomer to this forum but an avid music fan so here are my thoughts.Actually guys I think Athaan Varuvaaga from DDD is in mohanakalyani.You can hear it in the small raga piece after the pallavi.
Some other songs I love are
Mari Mari Ninne :Raga Saramathi
Vanthathe Oh Kungumam : Raga Mohanam
Oru Poyaavathu Sol kanne : Misra Peelu
Elisai Geethame : Misra Sivaranjani
Sharanam Bhava (from Sethu) : Kalyani
- From: Vidhya (@ prem.ne.mediaone.net)
on: Mon Aug 6 21:48:04 EDT 2001
MS: One version of "Vaishnava Janatho" I've heard is khamas.
"MalargaLai pol thangai" - sounds harikaambodhi.
- From: Rams (@ 212.134.222.2)
on: Tue Aug 7 12:05:24 EDT 2001
Dear friends , I am a newcomer to this forum. I just want to share my favouritesongs with ragas.
1. Janani - Kalayani
2. Amma Enrazhaikadha - Kalyani
3. Poovukkul Olindhirukkum - Kalyani
4. Malargale malargale - Amir Kalyani
5. Ennuyir thozhi - Amir kalyani
6. Kadhal Rojave - Kapi
7. Yeah Padal Onru - Kapi
8. Andha Indhira logame - Kanada
9. Malare Mounama - Kanada
10.thenna mara thoppukulla - Kanada
11. Chinna chiriya vanna paravai - Kanada
12. Mullai malar mele - Kanada
Correct me if I am wrong. Cheers with Luv- Rams.
- From: Rams (@ 212.134.222.2)
on: Tue Aug 7 12:06:25 EDT 2001
Dear friends , I am a new comer to this forum.
I am craze in Music, just want to share my favourite songs with ragas.
1. Janani - Kalayani
2. Amma Enrazhaikadha - Kalyani
3. Poovukkul Olindhirukkum - Kalyani
4. Malargale malargale - Amir Kalyani
5. Ennuyir thozhi - Amir kalyani
6. Kadhal Rojave - Kapi
7. Yeah Padal Onru - Kapi
8. Andha Indhira logame - Kanada
9. Malare Mounama - Kanada
10.thenna mara thoppukulla - Kanada
11. Chinna chiriya vanna paravai - Kanada
12. Mullai malar mele - Kanada
Correct me if I am wrong.
Cheers with Luv- Rams.
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