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Raga of song please

Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
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• From: RR (@ 192.122.139.202) on: Sat Jul 21 23:35:53 EDT 2001
  
  IsaiPriyan: Kanda shashti kavasam (the popular version by Soolamangalam sisters) is a ragamalika (kalyani and other ragas). The last part is in madhyamavathi.
  Btw this is a TFM forum :)
  
  
• From: baju (@ proxyc4.starhub.net.sg) on: Mon Jul 23 01:45:54 EDT 2001
  
  Kanda shashti kavasam is ANANADA BHAIRAVI ..
  i suppose ,, any concerns
  
  
• From: IR (@ bstnma1-ar1-190-119.bstnma1.dsl.gtei.net) on: Mon Jul 23 09:26:38 EDT 2001
  
  I can recollect Aabheri, Kalyani, thodi and Madhyamavathi in Kandha Sashti Kavasam - Would listen again to see if they have used any other ragas :-)
  
  
• From: Pradeep N (@ 210.186.19.116) on: Tue Jul 24 01:17:36 EDT 2001
  
  Hai Every body,
  
  I have been following this thread and it is really interesting.
  Can anyone tell me whether the raagas are correct which I have written down as I am pretty confused about them.
  
  1.Nila Kaagirathu(Indira)-Hameer Kalyani
  2.Ennavale(Kaadhalan)-Naatai/Maand
  Appreciate if someone can respond
  
  
• From: baju (@ proxyc4.starhub.net.sg) on: Tue Jul 24 02:06:24 EDT 2001
  
  Pradeep
  Nila Kaaigirathu is slightly PEHAG
  
  and ENNAVALE is KEDARAM (touches naatai) for sure
  
  
  
• From: MS (@ ch-1317.che.sc.edu) on: Tue Jul 24 16:27:34 EDT 2001
  
  HAs anybody heard these two songs ?
  
  (1) kaNNan manam ennavO kaNduvaa thendrale
  (2) kaatrOdu kuzalin naadhamE (which comes very close to aadaadha manamum uNdO in the first line)
  
  Can somebody give me the ragas of these two songs ?
  
  
• From: Pradeep N (@ 210.186.18.189) on: Wed Jul 25 00:41:27 EDT 2001
  
  Thanks Baju
  Talking of Kedaram in this thread I have seen that
  'Sundari Neeyum Sundar njanum" from Micheal madana.. is Kedaram.It sounds to me as Navaroj especially the D-S sequence.
  
  
• From: Angeli (@ bo-117-254.businessobjects.com) on: Wed Jul 25 13:46:49 EDT 2001
  
  MS: kaatrOdu kuzalin naadhamE is in SIMHENDRAMADHYAMAM, as is Nee Pouranamee from Oruvar vaazlum Aalayam(I think this is the movie name).
  
  SIMHENDRAMADHYAMAM
  S R2 G2 M2 P D1 N3 S
  S N3 D1 P M2 G2 R2 S
  
  aadaadha manamum uNdO is in LATANGI, like the Charanams of Enge Enadhu Kavidhai(Naalai andhigalil manadhin sandhugalil tholaindha mughathai manam theduthe)
  
  LATANGI
  S R2 G3 M2 P D1 N3 S
  S N3 D1 P M2 G3 R2 S
  
  Only the Gandharam is different
  
  
  
• From: MS (@ ch-1317.che.sc.edu) on: Wed Jul 25 14:22:45 EDT 2001
  
  Angeli:
  
  Thx a lot. Can you point out the films in which these two songs are present ?
  
  
• From: preetha (@ proxyc4.starhub.net.sg) on: Wed Jul 25 21:50:09 EDT 2001
  
  please tell what is the raagam for
  alaiypayudhe songs and enna solla pogirai(kandu)
  
  
• From: Pradeep (@ 210.186.18.209) on: Thu Jul 26 00:16:22 EDT 2001
  
  Preetha;
  Here are the ragams.
  Alaipayude:kanada
  Snehithane:Charamathi/Sindubhairavi and Mohanam after the interludes.
  Enna Solla:Shades of Bhairavi and Mukhari
  
  
  
  
• From: Venkatesh CR (@ teleglobe.net) on: Thu Jul 26 02:46:50 EDT 2001
  
  Tell me the raga for Sandha Kavigal from Metti.
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ atlwebproxy2.core.hp.com) on: Thu Jul 26 03:31:01 EDT 2001
  
  MS
  kaatrodu kuzhalin naadhamae is from kodai mazhai
  nee pournami is from oruvar vaazhum aalayam
  aadadha manamum is from mannadhi mannan
  aengae yenadhu kavidhai is from kandukondaen^2
  
  
• From: MS (@ ch-1317.che.sc.edu) on: Thu Jul 26 13:46:26 EDT 2001
  
  Kupps:
  
  Can u let me know in which film the song "kaNNan manam ennavO" is present ?
  
  
• From: RR (@ 192.122.139.196) on: Fri Jul 27 10:04:33 EDT 2001
  
  MS: Vasandha raagam is the movie
  
  
• From: CM (@ dhcp-171-71-229-59.cisco.com) on: Fri Jul 27 15:44:47 EDT 2001
  
  What raaga is "thinnaadhE thinnaadhE" from the movie paarthEn rasithEn, sounds like it has traces of reethigowla, and my guess is that it is more a janya of Karaharpriya. Ill let the experts say more.
  
  
• From: IR (@ 38.220.167.219) on: Fri Jul 27 16:02:33 EDT 2001
  
  CM- The song has tons of SriRanjani shades - again it is not pure Sriranjani - generous usage of foreign notes including panchamam! but if you want "a" ragam - I would say it is SriRanjani based :-)
  
  
• From: Angeli (@ bo-117-254.businessobjects.com) on: Fri Jul 27 19:51:47 EDT 2001
  
  Yep, IR is indeed right about the Thinnadhe song....it's very Sri Ranjani ish! :)
  
  
• From: Angeli (@ bo-117-254.businessobjects.com) on: Fri Jul 27 19:52:49 EDT 2001
  
  CM - another famous Sri Ranjani is Naadham Ennum kovilile, Naadha Villaku ethi vaithen....it is a more pure version!
  
  
• From: IR (@ bstnma1-ar1-189-099.bstnma1.dsl.gtei.net) on: Sat Jul 28 16:08:35 EDT 2001
  
  also Naadham Ezhundhadhadi Kannamma from Gopura Vaasalile ... lovely SriRanjani number...
  
  
• From: MS (@ ch-1317.che.sc.edu) on: Sun Jul 29 17:20:57 EDT 2001
  
  This page lists a lot of mallu songs and the ragas they are set in. Very nice collection:
  
  http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/4725/ragky.html
  
  
• From: IR (@ bstnma1-ar1-189-099.bstnma1.dsl.gtei.net) on: Mon Jul 30 06:40:40 EDT 2001
  
  MS - this is TFM Page not MFM Page :-) Anyway since all these are lovely classical/semi classical numbers in Malayalam, you are excused :-) :-) :-)
  
  It is indeed an excellent collection.. and I found the song I have been asking you for a longggg time - the Malayamarudham song :-)
  
  
• From: IsaiPriyan (@ 164.164.86.66) on: Mon Jul 30 09:52:25 EDT 2001
  
  Are there any TF songs in the raga "Karna Ranjani".
  The classical piece "Om Namo Narayana" is in the same raga.
  BTW, who has penned the lyrics for this song ?
  
  
• From: IR (@ bstnma1-ar1-189-099.bstnma1.dsl.gtei.net) on: Mon Jul 30 09:59:30 EDT 2001
  
  Isai Priyan - Om Namo Narayana is an Ambujam Krishna composition tuned in Karna Ranjani by Charumathi Ramachandran. Other beautiful Carnatic songs in this raga include Deena Charanya, Vaanja Thonuve ...
  
  
• From: Bala (@ 202.156.2.242) on: Mon Jul 30 10:55:33 EDT 2001
  
  Is it my imagination or is "SwAsame" (Thenali) same or similar raga as an old song "ManasuKul utKArndu maNi aDithAy... " (Can't remember the movie name - any clues ?)
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ atlwebproxy1.core.hp.com) on: Mon Jul 30 11:10:52 EDT 2001
  
  Bala manasukkuL utkaarndhu maniyadiththaan is from KALYAANA AGADHIGAL; Balchandar's movie(i think); Music by V.Narasimhan/L.Vaidyanathan.
  
  But sorry i have no idea about raaga or similarity.
  
  
• From: IR (@ bstnma1-ar1-189-099.bstnma1.dsl.gtei.net) on: Mon Jul 30 11:35:58 EDT 2001
  
  Bala - the two songs do sound very similar. Manasukkul Utkaandhu is in Hameer Kalyani. Swaasame is a combo of Hameer Kalyani/Behag and hence the similarity :)
  
  
• From: MS (@ cache145.sc.edu) on: Mon Jul 30 15:02:15 EDT 2001
  
  cha..mallu paattula irukkara maathiri heavy classical base thamiz paatula illiyie..aanaa idhu newtfmpage aagi pOchche..psss..
  
  adikka varaadhengappa :-)
  
  
• From: IR (@ bstnma1-ar1-189-099.bstnma1.dsl.gtei.net) on: Mon Jul 30 15:13:41 EDT 2001
  
  MS - I agree with you :-) sometimes mallu songs puriyatti kooda andha melody kkaaga kekkalaam :-)
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Mon Jul 30 15:23:51 EDT 2001
  
  IR: so you understand the tf songs? periyALudhAn pOnga :-))
  
  
• From: IR (@ bstnma1-ar1-189-099.bstnma1.dsl.gtei.net) on: Mon Jul 30 15:46:51 EDT 2001
  
  hihi - annE aala vidunga - malayalam la onnume puriyaadhu for obvious reasons - Thamizh therinjum thamizh paattu sila puriyaadhu - naa enna panna mudiyum :-))
  
  
• From: Velaiyaththavan (@ cache145.sc.edu) on: Mon Jul 30 18:35:16 EDT 2001
  
  digression:
  
  IR/hihi:
  
  PLease let me know through your tamil abilities what the following lines mean:
  
  "ari gori bhonsaaiyi sambaa nellaale
  parithavichchu parithavichchu ninna peNNaalE"
  
  I will be grateful.
  
  
• From: IR (@ bstnma1-ar1-189-099.bstnma1.dsl.gtei.net) on: Mon Jul 30 19:00:52 EDT 2001
  
  MS - I know you are the "Velaiyathavan" :-) Ask me the raga - I can try - enna vambula maattadha :-)
  
  
• From: amritha (@ webcache.kcls.org) on: Mon Jul 30 19:31:01 EDT 2001
  
  Please tell me the raagams for the following:
  
  ennuyire ennuyire en aaruyire ( From Uyire)
  Venkatesha suprabhatam
  Govinda ninna naamamey chanda (Purandaradasa krithi from a cassette by Unnikrishnan)
  
  Thanks
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Mon Jul 30 20:33:06 EDT 2001
  
  MS: :-)))) what song is that? anyways, as my name says hihi:-) (like kumudam, aracu patilkaL hihi:-) - meaning asadu vazidhal).
  
  
• From: MS (@ cache145.sc.edu) on: Mon Jul 30 22:53:35 EDT 2001
  
  aruL / IR :-)
  
  majnu song adhu. jollya irukku kEtka :-)
  
  ennuyire = saayal of MaayamaaLAvagowLai. It comes dangerously close to "aaru adhum aazam illai..adhu sErum kadalum aazam illai".
  
  
• From: MS (@ cache145.sc.edu) on: Tue Jul 31 00:07:45 EDT 2001
  
  sorry. MG has a differnet nishaadham.
  
  
• From: IsaiPriyan (@ 164.164.86.66) on: Tue Jul 31 00:39:06 EDT 2001
  
  What Raga is "Kelada..." from "Bharathi" ?
  I feel it is Hamsadwani.
  Pls calrify
  
  
• From: RR (@ krdlfirewall.krdl.org.sg) on: Tue Jul 31 03:14:13 EDT 2001
  
  kelada based on mohanam.
  venkatesa suprabatham - suddha saveri (?)
  govinda ninna - janasammodhini (popular version)
  
  
• From: Isav (@ 203.88.148.107) on: Tue Jul 31 04:49:33 EDT 2001
  
  Kelada is suddha dhanyasi
  
  
• From: Hey ! Ram (@ 164.164.86.66) on: Tue Jul 31 04:56:57 EDT 2001
  
  Ragas of
  1) Maalayil Yaaro (Kshatriyan)
  2) Bhoopalam Isaikkum (Thooral Ninnu pochu)
  3) Kudagu Malai Kaatril Oru (Karakattakaran)
  4) Lochana Kamala Lochana (Sindhu Bhairavi)
  5) Pon Maaney Kobam Eno (Oru Kaidhiyin Diary)
  6) Oru Pattampoochi (Kadhalukku Mariyaadhai)
  7) Roja Poonthottam (Kannukkul Nilavu)
  8) Thalaattum Poongatru (Gopura Vasaliley)
  
  

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