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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: Vj (@ 61.11.77.227) on: Fri Sep 27 06:21:28 EDT 2002
  
  "Sakiye" or "saathiye" (am not sure of the starting).. from "Youth" sounds like "Churake dil mera" (Akshay kumar's Khiladi No.1??)
  
  That song, actually is reused from Telugu "Khushi", again by ManiSharma.
  
  
• From: Roadorum Sideorum (@ 210.212.49.14) on: Fri Sep 27 08:32:13 EDT 2002
  
  Try 'Bindiya Chamkegi Choodi...' sung by Lataji and 'Vidha vidhama soap seepu' by Deva in 'Kaadale Nimmadhi'.Start with .....'kalangarthala ava veetu ......' and compare with '..maine mara hua..'
  amazing similiarity.i think this is one of the 'rare' songs where a good melody is transformed into a Gaana style song.is there any other instance?smo plz .......
  
  
• From: Thiru (@ 63.169.243.35) on: Fri Sep 27 11:26:18 EDT 2002
  
  VJ,
  probably the same as "Amma endrazhaikkaadha" and "Janani janani" ......... I feel amma endrazhiakkadha is more closer to 'Nee oru kaadhal saangeedham'......particularly the starting piece...
  
  
• From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170) on: Fri Sep 27 14:46:20 EDT 2002
  
  Karthik S - unable to listen to Lady in black. Please help.
  
  
• From: Villan (@ 203.197.133.245) on: Fri Sep 27 16:09:41 EDT 2002
  
  The song Sangeetha Vaanil(chinna poovey mella pesu)music by SAR have the same bacground music of a Telu gu song Adhey Neevu Adhey nenu(Abinandhana) music by IR
  
  
• From: Britto (@ 12.23.133.6) on: Fri Sep 27 16:18:12 EDT 2002
  
  A song in Kushi "Oh Vennila" is completely copied from the theme music of english movie "Primal Fear"
  
  
• From: Thiru (@ 63.169.243.35) on: Fri Sep 27 16:19:23 EDT 2002
  
  Britto, shades of 'Oh Vennila' can be heard in the BGM of Aasai too...
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 203.197.184.150) on: Sat Sep 28 00:09:42 EDT 2002
  
  Britto,
  
  Check out the Deva page in my website - 12th entry.
  http://www.iespana.es/i2fs/
  
  The original is called Cancao do mar, by Portugese singer Dulce Pontes. It just happened that this song was added in the soundtrack of Primal Fear.
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.161) on: Sat Sep 28 02:30:48 EDT 2002
  
  Karthik...
  
  I think this was discussed before here :
  
  Today I heard an old hindi no. "Neele Neele Amber?" on FM when travelling in a cab (so i cudn't get the words clearly). It sounded very much like a Tamil no. maybe En Iniya Pon nilave. Could you throw more light on this ?
  
  
• From: Aalavandhan (@ 210.186.60.99) on: Sat Sep 28 02:57:19 EDT 2002
  
  It is Ilaya nila pozhigirathu. Original was by IR in Tamil.
  
  
• From: yaaro (@ 195.93.34.7) on: Sat Sep 28 03:31:08 EDT 2002
  
  hello aalavandhan,
  Do I know you?
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.161) on: Sat Sep 28 04:44:41 EDT 2002
  
  Thanks Aalavandhaan :-)
  
  
• From: rahman copies more than anyone knows (@ 152.163.189.230) on: Sat Sep 28 08:14:49 EDT 2002
  
  why is Deva songs a cause of concern? that guy has no originality, no style, any tune that sounds good is just a fluke. almost all his songs has bits and pieces copied from somewhere or other?
  
  as someone said most of bombay dreams tunes of Rahman are worrying. that "journey home" first stanza is copied from an erasure song, l'amour. anyone noticed that?
  
  
• From: Aalavandhan (@ 203.106.70.27) on: Sat Sep 28 08:38:58 EDT 2002
  
  Yaaro, nee(ngal)um naanum yaaro...:)
  Say "hi" to Sabesan for me. :)
  
  You're welcome cosmician. :)
  
  As for Mr. 152.163.189.230, in case you didn't know, every MD has copied, from MSV to IR to ARR.
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Sat Sep 28 09:52:06 EDT 2002
  
  Cosmician & Aalavandhan
  Neele neele ambur par is an identical copy of Ilaya nila ONLY in the pallavi. The charanams and the interludes are completely different, catering more to the hindi audience tastes.
  
  Wasn't it Anand-Milind who composed music for that song? They have lifted many IR tunes from both telugu and tamil without any inhibitions.
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.4.168) on: Wed Oct 2 12:02:30 EDT 2002
  
  Karthik S
  In your webpage regarding
  DR.Albans 'Om we rembwe ike' your web page says RAmesh Vinayakam as MD for that 'Poisollalam'
  its wrong the MD for that song is Murugan Iyer brother of singer Anuradha.
  MD Ramesh Vinayakam scored music for the only popular song from that movie Hey Nee Romba Azharike is 'Mahomare usumare'
  hope you fix that error.
  
  
• From: Awe (@ 66.138.141.68) on: Wed Oct 2 20:52:53 EDT 2002
  
  Other day i was listening to Mozart's 40th symphony 1st movement.. opening is very familiar to some indian tune. I don't know if it is hindi or tamil. Anyone can clarify that?
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 203.90.94.162) on: Wed Oct 2 21:54:47 EDT 2002
  
  Neele Neela Ambar paar is from Kalakaar(1984 I think). It is a remake of Payanangal Mudivathillai and starred Kunal Goswami, son of the former Indian football captain and Ranji player Chuni Goswami(yes, he played cricket too, for Bengal!). Think sreedevi also came in the movie.
  Unlike PM, movie was a flop
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 203.90.94.162) on: Wed Oct 2 21:54:54 EDT 2002
  
  Neele Neele Ambar paar is from Kalakaar(1984 I think). It is a remake of Payanangal Mudivathillai and starred Kunal Goswami, son of the former Indian football captain and Ranji player Chuni Goswami(yes, he played cricket too, for Bengal!). Think sreedevi also came in the movie.
  Unlike PM, movie was a flop
  
  
• From: sarat (@ 67.33.181.153) on: Wed Oct 2 22:22:36 EDT 2002
  
  Kunal Goswami is the son of Manoj Kumar(Bhagat Singh)
  
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 203.90.94.162) on: Wed Oct 2 22:25:13 EDT 2002
  
  huh?? will confirm it and get back!!
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 203.90.94.162) on: Wed Oct 2 22:32:45 EDT 2002
  
  Yes sarat, sorry for the grand misinformation :( Alva kudutha nanbanai gavanikkanum!!
  
  
• From: selva (@ 213.121.212.121) on: Sat Oct 5 12:09:49 EDT 2002
  
  awe,
  
  the song 'Awaara hoon' from the movie 'Awaara' is supposed to be based on Mozart's 40th symphony in d-minor.
  
  "Itna na mujhse tu pyaar badhaa" is also supposed to be based on Mozart.
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.80.42) on: Sun Oct 6 05:10:24 EDT 2002
  
  ..the same as "Aval varuvaala" - Nerukku ner ...:D
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.203.216) on: Mon Oct 7 23:24:03 EDT 2002
  
  KarthikS, try listening to "ennadi gnyaana penne" by Mano from the film Sundara travels with music by Bharani. The pallavi atleast is a 100% lift from an old hindi film song. I dont recall the words exactly but I think it was sung by Rafi for Pran(?!!) who would be crippled and will be moving on wheels singing the song. I think it was quite a popular movie, from 70s probably.
  
  
• From: PP (@ 170.140.253.79) on: Tue Oct 8 13:27:09 EDT 2002
  
  Kaumudi,
  
  In spite of repeated requests in the past, for some reason Karthik S hasn't listed Anand-Milind's note-by-note copies of IR's songs over the late 80s and through the 90's on his page. Perhaps he has a special fondness for Anand-Milind. ;) What say Karthik?
  
  Almost all songs from China Thambi were copied in its Hindi remake: AnAri. Ditto with Agni Nakshathiram - Hindi: Vansh.
  The songs from GeetAnjali (Idhayathai ThirudAthey) made their way into the forgettable Hindi copy, 'yAd rakhegi DuniyA'
  
  Let me list the ones that come to my mind:
  The film Bhagi had 2 songs:
  'Chandni Raat Hai' which was a copy of IR's 'keLadi kaNmaNi' ; and the song 'TapOri, tapOri', was a copy of IR's 'Raja Rajathi RAjan Indha RAja' (Agni nakshatram)
  'Dil Mera' from the 90's film 'Ang Rakshak' was a copy of IR's early 80's Johnny classic, 'Asaya kAthula thoothu vittu'
  'Tutu tu tutu tAra' from 'BOl rAdhA bOl' was a copy of Dalapathy's 'rAkkamma kaiya thattu'
  Their biggest hits like 'Dil' and 'Beta' were full of copied numbers. 'Dil' had 'Oh PriyA priyA' copied from IR's 'Oh PriyA priyA' from GeetAnjali (Telugu) and 'BEtA' (the movie itself was a copy of Bhagyaraj's 'Enga Chinna rAsa') had 'kOyal si tEri bOli' copied from Shankar-Ganesh's 'koNda chEval koovum neram' and the other biggie, 'Dhak dhak karne lagA' was a copy of IR's 'Abbanee Theeyanee' from the Telugu 'JakadEka veerudu AtilOka Sundari' (dubbed in Tamil as 'kAdhal Devathai').
  
  There are many more copies that I am unable to recollect
  
  The duo tried to repeat the same strategy by copying ARR's numbers like 'kAdhal rOjAvE' and a mAy mAdham song, but didn't click, as ARR himself became a mainstream composer for Hindi films.
  
  
• From: Thiru (@ 63.169.243.35) on: Tue Oct 8 14:39:26 EDT 2002
  
  Another hindi song which was a perfect lift was 'jaa rahaan hey pyar ka nasha' from 'vaazha vaikkum kaadhalukku jai'... I forgot the movie name
  
  
• From: Awe (@ 65.69.45.77) on: Tue Oct 8 14:52:54 EDT 2002
  
  
  Is there any similarity between these two songs? I find the tune is somewhat similar. But cleverly modified. are there any similarities? or it is just me. Somehow this Aalana Naal Mudala song instantly came to my mine first when i saw this video.
  
  Song : Aalana Naal Mudala
  
  Film: Kadhal Kavithai
  
  Music: IR
  
  Link: http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/WW000A0C
  
  
  Song : Gale Mein Laal Taai
  
  Film: Hum Tumhare Hain Sanam
  
  Music: Nikhil-Vinay, Daboo Malik, Bappi Lahiri, Sajid-Wajid, Bali Brahmbhatt (5 MDs) i don't know who scored this song.
  
  http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/moviedetail.asp?mid=H000374
  
  
• From: Teja (@ 63.201.144.200) on: Tue Oct 8 15:36:01 EDT 2002
  
  Thiru
  The song you mentioned "Chaa raha hai pyar ka nasha" is from Sridevi starrer Chandramukhi.
  
  
• From: PP (@ 170.140.251.89) on: Tue Oct 8 16:12:23 EDT 2002
  
  Teja,
  
  Chandramukhi hadmusic by Anand-Milind!
  Another copy of an IR song!
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Tue Oct 8 16:18:28 EDT 2002
  
  PP
  You're right. So many of Anand-Milind's tunes are direct copies or "heavy" inspirations of IR's songs. I am sure Karthik has his own reasons IF he is deliberately not listing these copies. I hope he replies to your post.
  
  Another song to add to your list is "Ivvu ivvu" from the telugu film Prema starring Revathy and Venkatesh. This song was copied straight into hindi in which it is called "Aaja aaja give me a kiss, na na na na still I am a miss". The original had wonderful pallavi-charanam combination and pleasant interludes - only some of the brilliance of IR!
  
  
• From: Teja (@ 63.201.144.200) on: Tue Oct 8 16:26:47 EDT 2002
  
  Kaumudi,
  Prema indeed has some wonderful songs. Another song from the same film 'eenade edo ayyindi' is lifted into it's hindi version "Love" as "Sathiya tune kyakiya". It is a note by note copy of telugu song.
  One more observation, the song 'Aaja naa tere bina ...' from the film 'Bol Radha bol' is a direct lift of IR's telugu/tamil song 'Are emayindi' from Aradhana (Suhasini, chiranjeevi).
  
  

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