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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: isaiosai (@ 68.13.243.166) on: Mon Sep 2 10:14:24 EDT 2002
  
  Vj, MD for Tel "Pelli" was SAR. That was his first major hit in Tel:-) (esp. the song Rukku rukku rukkumani) and brought him some more Tel offers later.
  
  
• From: Aswathmama (@ 68.58.127.57) on: Mon Sep 2 11:46:24 EDT 2002
  
  Kazhugu came before Manal Kayiru..
  
  
• From: kazhugu (@ 195.93.50.7) on: Mon Sep 2 12:35:13 EDT 2002
  
  kazhugu in 81-panner pushpangal in 81 which had shanthi krishna as heroine.she acted with SVS (his first film )in 82.
  
  
• From: kazhugu (@ 195.93.50.7) on: Mon Sep 2 12:35:50 EDT 2002
  
  frist film as hero...
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.77.159) on: Tue Sep 3 00:57:42 EDT 2002
  
  isaiosai.. yeah... telugu MD was SAR... but was the movie first done in kannada then into telugu? who was the MD for that kannada movie? am pestering this since all the remakes had the same tunes and went on to become hits... so wanna check the original composer..:-)
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.161) on: Tue Sep 3 04:51:27 EDT 2002
  
  Maybe this has been discussed already :
  
  Is IR's "Aalampol Velampol....." from Yejaman a recycled tune from his own "Poova eduthu oru maalai.." from the film Amman Kovil Kizhakale ?
  
  Incidentally these two songs were played one after the other when I was travelling by night-bus from Madras to Madurai. That's when it struck me....I guess the similarity is in the first lines.
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.82.81) on: Tue Sep 3 09:11:42 EDT 2002
  
  cosmician... i dont think so
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 161.150.2.250) on: Tue Sep 3 10:49:15 EDT 2002
  
  Watched 'mazha' a malayalam film *ing Samyuktha varma, Biju menon . Music was by Ravindran.The movie has a humming sung by KJY and a new female singer that comes throughout the film. This is a total lift of the humming part that comes at the start of 'en veetu thottathil'.
  Major portion of the movie takes place in tamilnadu and hence ravindran has used four of Rahmans songs at various situations to be played in the Background(uppu karuvaadu, en mel vizhundha mazhai thuLiye, margazhi thingaL allavaa and uyirum neeye)
  
  
• From: ms.x (@ 61.11.81.164) on: Thu Sep 5 02:59:39 EDT 2002
  
  absolutely right,ivan- appadi song is a ditto lift of meri khayalon ki malika-josh,song ,ir has atlast has indeed lifted,congratulations,he can make more hits now....
  
  
• From: Mr.X (@ 195.93.50.7) on: Thu Sep 5 03:51:39 EDT 2002
  
  why are you wasting ouir time with stuoid postings?\I have just listened to that song and can find no similarity with appadi song.
  http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/moviedetail.asp?mid=H000134
  
  
• From: Mr.X (@ 195.93.50.7) on: Thu Sep 5 03:51:56 EDT 2002
  
  why are you wasting our time with stupid postings?I have just listened to that song and can find no similarity with appadi song.
  http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/moviedetail.asp?mid=H000134
  
  
• From: RR (@ 192.122.139.216) on: Thu Sep 5 04:44:48 EDT 2002
  
  Ramki: the mazha theme is neelambari based. So is 'en veettu thottathil' starting alapana. So you can't really call it copy :)
  
  
• From: Peter Pan (@ 170.140.253.13) on: Thu Sep 5 10:43:28 EDT 2002
  
  cosmician,
  AlupOl VelupOl & Poova Eduthu are completely different tunes.
  In fact they are based on 2 different ragas, ShankarabharaNam and mAyA mALava gowLa. Both have music by IR and have Pallavis that end with the word 'vacheney'. I guess there ends the similarity :)
  
  
• From: Awe (@ 65.69.45.178) on: Thu Sep 5 14:15:41 EDT 2002
  
  Peter Pan if that is the scale...
  
  Poo Pookum Osai Adhai Kekkathan Asai
  and
  China Chinna Asai siragadikka Asai are similary As both ends in Asai:)
  
  
• From: ST (@ 64.229.179.177) on: Thu Sep 5 15:49:41 EDT 2002
  
  Copying in Tamil film songs only started from IR's appearance in the 70's and this practice is followed by him even today but him only. His name would probably appear in the Guinness book for this extraordinary achievement (over 4000 songs, 95% of them were recycled for the shake of keeping this planet cleaner). IR fans should have something to celebrate !!!
  
  
• From: vanavasi (@ 203.197.138.163) on: Fri Sep 6 08:29:31 EDT 2002
  
  there is a better idea of keeping this planet clean: dumping people like you far from solar system!
  
  vanavasi
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 202.156.2.138) on: Mon Sep 9 12:26:51 EDT 2002
  
  "Copying in Tamil film songs only started from IR's appearance in the 70's and this practice is followed by him even today but him only. His name would probably appear in the Guinness book for this extraordinary achievement (over 4000 songs, 95% of them were recycled for the shake of keeping this planet cleaner). IR fans should have something to celebrate !!!"
  
  You are right! Celebrating coz your badarse must have gotten ripped apart bad for you to come up wif all these
  
  yehyi yehyi
  :))))
  
  
• From: Prem (@ 202.54.128.4) on: Wed Sep 11 03:37:40 EDT 2002
  
  Recently the spoof movie "RobinHood - Men in Tights" was re-telecast in Star Movies. In one of the Scenes, where Robin Hood teaches his fellow men the art of Bow and arrows, the BGM was exactly the ditto of the starting piece of the song "Oruvan Oruvan Mudalali" from Muthu. Any of you guys noticed it?
  
  
• From: kuruvi (@ ) on: Fri Sep 20 11:30:31 EDT 2002
  
  Here is some interesting news about copying
  http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow.asp?art_ID=22588483
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.82.85) on: Sat Sep 21 03:30:03 EDT 2002
  
  i feel 'Maarugo maarugo' from Kamal's Sathileelaavathy is somewhat close to the 'alaipaayuthey kanna' (not from the movie.. but in general) song. btw, i dont think it can be categorized as COPY as well.
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.197.141.186) on: Sat Sep 21 05:42:16 EDT 2002
  
  Vj:
  
  That song is based on Kaanada Raagam.
  A very famous song on that song with some qwaali touch is "Kannaalane" from Bombay.
  
  
• From: a (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Sat Sep 21 05:45:43 EDT 2002
  
  Vj
  too muchhhhhh ya this one....
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.79.5) on: Sat Sep 21 07:43:26 EDT 2002
  
  Are Yaar... can u clarify which song is in Kaanada raagam? "alaipaayuthey kanna" or "maarugo"..? which raagams are both songs based? :-)
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Sat Sep 21 09:46:30 EDT 2002
  
  Vj, if I may answer...
  Both alaipaayuthey and maarugo are based on Kaanada ragam. Another song in kaanada is "Poomaalai vaangi vandhaan" from sindhubhairavi.
  
  
• From: Nazir (@ 172.162.209.229) on: Sat Sep 21 21:34:34 EDT 2002
  
  Watched a spanish movie 'Burnt movie' which was based on a true bank robbery in 1960s Argentina. The film plays a spanish song which was supposed to be very popular in 60s. The song sounded very very similar to 'busthaan PTC ullethaan qmc' song from veetle viseshengka(MD IR).
  
  Since it is IR, i expect responses like 'they are based on same raaga' etc etc ...LOL
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.77.23) on: Sun Sep 22 04:42:30 EDT 2002
  
  Nazir.. it wd be nice if u can provide any links to the above song.. :-)... anyways, "Netrikkann thirappinum kuttram kuttramey"
  
  
• From: kk (@ 192.11.187.113) on: Sun Sep 22 18:55:12 EDT 2002
  
  busthaan PTC ullethaan is such a general timepass DK song. Why do some has to watch a argentina movie for that?!
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Sun Sep 22 23:35:07 EDT 2002
  
  Nazir,
  
  I've been looking for the soundtrack of 'Burnt Money' too (originally called 'Plata Quemada'). The movie is a very fast paced and stylish gay version of Bonnie and Clyde and the soundtrack includes quite a few old tango/spanish tracks. In fact www.musimundo.com.ar was the only site which had the audio track with samples and complete listing, but it doesnt seem to have it now.
  
  
• From: Nazir (@ 172.153.169.122) on: Mon Sep 23 19:57:23 EDT 2002
  
  karthik s i have the videotape but couldnt get the audio track. Another spanish movie with good soundtrack is 'dont tell anyone'. Have you watched this film?
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.78.202) on: Tue Sep 24 05:47:15 EDT 2002
  
  I feel the ending humming of 'Naan aanayittaal adhu nadandhuvittaal' - Enga veettu pillai is 99% the same as the starting humming of 'Anbe anbe kollaadhey' - Jeans....!!!
  
  
• From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.219) on: Tue Sep 24 06:36:42 EDT 2002
  
  Vj
  
  >>>>>I feel the ending humming of 'Naan aanayittaal adhu nadandhuvittaal' - Enga veettu pillai is 99% the same as the starting humming of 'Anbe anbe kollaadhey' - Jeans....!!!<<<<<<
  
  In fact, 'Anbe anbe kollaadhey' will slightly remind you of 'Hawa Hawa! Yeh Hawa!' of Pakistani singer Hassan Jahangir (1989 Hindi pop)!
  
  
• From: vinod alangaaram (@ 203.124.152.2) on: Thu Sep 26 03:55:08 EDT 2002
  
  Guys, I want the following songs in mp3 format, Kindly from where i can download these songs.
  
  Enemies(Dr.alban)----inspirationof keechu kiliyae from mugavari.
  
  Suzanna(Art company)----inspiration of "O sona" from vaalee
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Fri Sep 27 00:59:36 EDT 2002
  
  Have added IR's Kaadhal Vandhiruchu and Uriah Heep's 'Lady in black' to my site. This instance is far from being labelled as a copy, but I sure can find traces, enough to justify an inspiration.
  
  Thanks to K Shyam from the "connection between IR and uriah heep" thread for this really interesting piece of info!
  
  And OISG...
  :-) (Carried from the Uriah heep thread!!)
  
  Check out my site at
  http://www.iespana.es/i2fs/
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.77.227) on: Fri Sep 27 02:57:05 EDT 2002
  
  KarthikS.. can u mention the year in which both the songs came? i think "Kalyanaraman" came in 1979/80...
  
  btw, "Idhayam oru koil" from 'Idhayakoil' is kinda similar to "Kanmaniye pesu" from 'Kaakichattai', especially the beginnings,IMO. (probably the same as "Amma endrazhaikkaadha" and "Janani janani")
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Fri Sep 27 03:08:54 EDT 2002
  
  I've mentioned the year of release in my site. However, here they are...
  
  Kalyanaraman - 1979
  Salisbury - 1970
  (Salisbury is the album which has the song Lady in black)
  
  
• From: query1 (@ 203.197.135.129) on: Fri Sep 27 05:02:33 EDT 2002
  
  I dont know which came out first but, i think the flute parts at the beginning of both the following songs are similar: "poralae ponuthai" from "Karuthamma" and "sempoovai" from "siraichalai"
  
  Somebody please confirm
  
  

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