Topic started by Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu) on Tue Apr 27 11:26:51 EDT 1999.
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- From: Madhan (@ 202.41.117.61)
on: Sat May 1 01:26:50 EDT 1999
Geetha, I have cut and paste my old posting from the thread " Impact of TFM on other communities" -
Topic started by Nirupama (@ 209.153.226.35) on Fri Jul 24 00:46:10 EDT 1998.
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•From: Madhan,Goa. (@ 202.41.117.100) on: Fri Jul 24 10:05:26 EDT 1998
KUDOS TO YOU MS.Nirupama -
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK -
AS an ardent TFM fan, I give my total cooperation in divulginh information of any kind to you regarding TFM -
in fact, it is my most sincere suggestion that you take technical advice/guidance from people like D.SRIKANTH, SRINATH, LAKSHMINARAYAN SRIRANGAM RAMAKRISHNAN( he is not a TFM DF surfer, but he has contributed 15 odd in - depth articles entitled "CLASSICAL ILAYARAAJA" series), BADRI RAGHAVAN, Ms.GEETHA ,NITIN SREEDEVAN etc.,who are very well versed in various aspects of music, and go ahead and make this radio show a smashing success.
In the near future, this might also help in popularising Indian classical music, since much of the TFM is classical music based..
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So you see I have so sortingly mentioned your name as an EXPERT in Classical Music - as early as July, 1998, I have truly acknowledged the musical knowledge of Ms.Geetha ,Mr.Srikanth.D and others - now can you see that I have always been POSITIVE in my approach ? but what went wrong ?
ATTITUDE matters a lot - none of us
" bunch of guys" have said anything personal against Ms.Nirupama, on the basis of gender or whatsoever - only when you started using a certain intimidatory tone in yoru postings, did things started changing against you - you are the victim of your own fault .
- From: Madhan (@ 202.41.117.61)
on: Sat May 1 01:57:38 EDT 1999
Srinath,
Ref : " Idhula comedy enna na, some s o m a r i (why is this a 'frobidden' word ? ;-)) has registered a profile in Javagal Srinath's name in Hotmail with MY email ID ! I get mails for Javagal Srinath every time there's a match/competition going on !!! :-)))) Angeyum indha aal marattam pannalaam, but I have never indulged in it. Guess I like myself too much to be someone else :-))) " -
It might sound stupid on my part, but in the initial days of your DF debut, I was wondering (though it was absurd) whether the Karnataka speedster had time to listen to IR's music and become his fan and browse the net and post in DF, apart from playing cricket for India !!
- From: Srinath (@ 98a76694.ipt.aol.com)
on: Sat May 1 14:43:17 EDT 1999
Madhan:
Eppavavadhu chance kedacha kaettu vena paarkalaam :-) Yennakku Kannadathula kooda mail vandurikku theriyuma ? Adha padikka thaan theriyala ! Oru penmani naan sonna kooda namba maatennu sollitaanga ! Romba convince panna vendiyurnthuthu :-) Finally, I told her that if she didn't believe me, I could impersonate Javagal and exchange mails with her as if I were him :-))) Only then did she realize that I was not Javagal Srinath !
- From: Madhan (@ 202.41.117.101)
on: Sun May 2 01:18:29 EDT 1999
Srinath - nallaa yosicchu yedhaiyaavadhu seiyyunga - appuram, Javagalukku injury aagi poi, namma DF JSrinath ai, on May 16th,1999, S.Africavukku againsta bowling attacka aarambikka sollidaporanga - appauram, idhu MGR,Amitabh pada stylil, aal maarattam in INDIAN Cricket aayidum - original Javagal bowlingaiyyey kanda kanda tailender batsman yellam pottu pinnu pinnunnu pinni yedukkaraan - idhila, substitute Srinath (from TFM DF) bowling senja, World Cup Indiavukku kidaikkumnu nambareenga ? - ))))
- From: bb (@ bernstein.crhc.uiuc.edu)
on: Sun May 2 10:20:55 EDT 1999
namma srinath bowling pOdumbOdhu, ARR songs pOttaa, ivarukku veRi ERi, hattrickO hattrick thaan:)))))
- From: Madhan (@ 202.41.117.101)
on: Sun May 2 11:49:30 EDT 1999
BB: Neenga vera, appuram, Third Umpire Geetha will declare Srinath's bowling action as "suspect" and call him for "chucking" - adhukkapparam, ICC levella poi, Muthiah Muralidharan bowling action controversy maadhiri there will be another Geetha Vs. Srinath war !!
- From: Srinath (@ 98ce99d9.ipt.aol.com)
on: Sun May 2 13:43:45 EDT 1999
bb:
Oru ragumanfan-a trace panna mudiyala...ennannu solla..very, very disappointing ;-) Saththiyama naan ragumanfan kidayaadhu. Ada cha idhu ennapa vamba pochu...yaarume naan yaarunnu namba maatengaraanga :-(
Madhan:
Appadi illa...naan Javagalukku badhula bowing pottaenna, objective-a bowl pannala, romba biased-a bowl pannaraennu ellorum solluvaanga :-))
- From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Mon May 3 01:37:24 EDT 1999
BB; Too bad Pak team-la Ata-ur-rehman illai. Irundha namma srinath-ai anuppina oru over-la 6 sixer adichhuruvaan verila!(BTW, Azhar once managed 29 off a Rehman over, IR-Fan--aa iruparo?)
- From: bb (@ bernstein.crhc.uiuc.edu)
on: Mon May 3 05:16:14 EDT 1999
time to close this thread?
- From: Madhan (@ 202.41.117.11)
on: Mon May 3 10:21:47 EDT 1999
BB, Yeppallaam, yaaraavadhu Ms.Geethavukku, nallaa amsamaa oru response koduthhaa podhum , udaney Madam padhungi viduvaargal - By all means, I guess Ms.Geetha is trying to dig out "non-existent" valid points against my postings !!
Yedhu yeppadiyo, Ms.Geetha is absconding for reasons best known to her !!
- From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Mon May 3 15:47:01 EDT 1999
bb,
please do not close this thread. i have something to post here. please give me a chance:-)
- From: bb (@ bernstein.crhc.uiuc.edu)
on: Mon May 3 15:55:45 EDT 1999
aruL, neenga kalakkungO:)
- From: Madhan (@ 202.41.117.101)
on: Mon May 3 23:33:31 EDT 1999
Dear Arularasan :
Namma regular DF Surfers post pandradhukku chance kenji kekkara alavukku nilamai mosamaagummunnu naan ninaikkavey illai )))))))
- From: Madhan (@ 202.41.117.62)
on: Tue May 4 03:25:11 EDT 1999
A DIGRESSION :
Friends , guys and gals, thozargalae , idho oru soodana reply I got from the Chicago Symphony Orchestra - yedhaavadhu udanae seiyungapaa -
Udhaya and others residing near Chicago area : please do read the following and get back to me in the DF and decide to do something about it :
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Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:11:44 -0500
From: "Blievernicht, Paul"
To: "'tmr@unigoa.ernet.in'"
Subject: Score Submissions Procedure
Dear T. Madhan Raghavan:
Thanks for forwarding information on Maestro Illayaraaja.
If you would like to submit a score or other materials by Maestro
Illayaraaja, please send them to:
CHICAGO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA
ATTN: Paul Blievernicht
220 South Michigan Avenue
Chicago, Illinois 60604-2508
Please send postage, in the form of stamps, if you would like the score
returned to you after it has been reviewed. I will make sure the score is forwarded to our Composer-In-Residence, and
she will respond to you once she has had a chance to review the music.
Thank you.
Paul Blievernicht
Continuing Education Assistant
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COME ON GUYS , I HAVE DONE THE PRELIMINARY WORK - NOW, IT IS FOR YOU GUYS TO DO THE REST IN THE US - BEING IN GOA,INDIA, I CANNOT DO ANY FURTHER - MAKE SURE THAT YOU SPEND SOME TIME IN PREPARING THE RIGHT KIND OF STUFF TO BE SENT TO THE CSO - GET BACK TO THE DF FAST !!
- From: bb (@ bernstein.crhc.uiuc.edu)
on: Tue May 4 03:55:43 EDT 1999
madhan, innum archiveslleyum neraiya threads irukku..ellaththileyum post pannanumnnu viradhamaa:)))))
- From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Tue May 4 05:20:38 EDT 1999
Just checked in to see if Madhan has digresed here too!
- From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Tue May 4 05:22:30 EDT 1999
Sure, he has!
- From: Madhan (@ 202.41.117.101)
on: Tue May 4 13:30:58 EDT 1999
Raj, yellaam, Thalaivaroda Musicukku nammaalaana oru chinna thondu seiyyaromennu orey santhoshathhula konjam overaavey post pannitteno yennavo !!
- From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Wed May 5 02:53:06 EDT 1999
Madhan: Carry on, Jeeves!!!
- From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk)
on: Wed May 5 12:34:24 EDT 1999
Madhan: I was not here because I was enjoying the long weekend break. I was not absconding. I have explained why I'm a sporadic poster, it is due to my demanding job as a consultant, my new house, my impending marriage e.t.c.... I have other things to do except for IR/ARR wars and the forum.
- From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk)
on: Wed May 5 12:37:22 EDT 1999
Firstly, Madhan, Thanks for replying so well to my questions. I’m beginning to understand where you’re coming from. I do however have some issues with it too, as usual J I have been on holiday for the long weekend, so was not able to reply.
1. "last dying vestiges of creativity in this great musician" - So, even you are of this opinion? You say that no Tamil Film Director can bring out the best in IR, whereas the MFM ones can? Again, what is that? Are the TF Directors so stupid or music illetrate or what is the excuse?
SRINATH: Where is your answer to this question? It’s your quote that I’m querying? I took a listen to India 24 Hours on the new, on Rex’s page - Thanks Rex(because I couldn’t buy it anywhere, I don’t like to give credit card details on the web). He has not run out of creativity, he just doesn’t seem to care to use it - that is my frustration!…. India 24 hours is quite stunning, as is Alai Meedhu(KK) or Kholusu konjam(Chinnadurai). These are two very good examples of his creativity and brilliance, my comment on the IR thread was WHY is this not consistent? I saw Chinnadurai(over ½ of it, have to see the rest today, but the New Sky Digital is very distracting….by the way, I too really enjoyed Shakesphere in Love:). So far, even though it’s a spin off from Naataamai, it’s going well, IMO, I wouldn’t class it as a ‘rubbish’ movie, IMO.
2) Yes, I do not expect a Mouna Ragam from IR all the time, but at least 1 in 20 new movies perhaps? One complains if ARR doesn't produce movies, but IR does plenty of them, so why not one good movie in so many? If they are personal favours, why does he not give his best? You and I know what he's capable of, but why is he degenerating his value these days? WHY?
3) Why is his staple diet TFM? If he cannot do justice to it, then why do it at all? Why does he not take up albums, symphonies?
4) Why does he feel that the tamil people do not deserve to listen to the symphony? WHY?
Madhan, have you seen Natpukaaga? It had a wonderful story-line, Deva gave it some nice numbers(Garuda). Have you seen Piriyamudan(Aagaasavani), same again, IMO. Even Chinnadurai is not a ‘rubbish’ movie, IMO, but he hasn’t done justice to it, however, that one song gives me hope.
5) In a film like Kaadhal Kavidhai, IR has again left an indelible mark in the BGM - can you show me one movie of ARR in recent times (or evn before) wherein he has doe something CREATIVE in BGM ?
Madhan: I’ve never said that ARR was any good at BGM, in fact, if you read my review of Fire, I trashed it, for it was quite bad. IMO, KK BGM wasn’t a really good one from IR, as there was a lot of Loud noise in places, this was a bit annoying, however, it does surpass any BGM of ARR. I must also say that the BGM for Housefull was great, so, don’t bring BGM into it, I have always said that IR is the King for it:)
6) Read the reviews in the newtfmpage of IR's music, dear God, every song is a wonder as far as his fans are concerned. When someone like me chooses to speak the truth, it upsets people.....
Madhan: Yes, it’s IMO, but some others have looked at the reviews and laughed, which is why I brought up the point. Some of the reviews are biased towards IR in a fanatical manner, they glorify songs that really don’t deserve it. Srinath says that I look over ARR’s bad points, but I’ve never said that he’s the best, I always maintain IR’s Genius, but am disappointed in his present TFM work. I must admit, I was even a bit disappointed with some of the stuff in Guru and wasn’t so impressed with Yaathra Mozli. This maybe because my expectations were sky high, at the same time, I think I was expecting another Panivizlim Malarvanam or another Poonkadhave.
7) He does not stop doing 'rubbish' movies? And so many of them.....And I don't want to hear that he's too poor and that he needs to do all types of 'rubbish' because it's his bread and butter.
Madhan: Please give me some valid reasons, yes, there could be a number, but what are the main ones? AnS : We don't know what is forcing him to do these rubbish movies - there could be any number of reasons.
8) He cannot give good music to these 'rubbish' movies?
Madhan: What’s the answer? I don’t understand? Why can he not make the effort to give good music to these? ANS : again, the answer has already been given
9) He doesn't respect the TAMILS enought to give them the quality of music he gives the Malayalees? Isn't he a Tamilian, who owes his best work to the Tamils and not to others?
Madhan: FYI, I’m not Indian, I’m from Sri Lanka, I cannot do anything for my land, I’m here, banished from my Home land, as there’s CIVIL WAR there and we are the DISCRIMINATED Race. If I go to Sri Lanka, I will probably be raped or killed for no reason, that is why I am not there.
How come 80% of the TFM DFers are coming out with flying colors in the US and Europe (including one Ms.Geetha from UK!!) , instead of "kuppai kottufying " in India itself ? can you give an answer ?
Well, ask the other DFers, who are not in their home land, serving it, as I am unable to do so, but do as much as I can from here, to help!
"Kaatrullapodhey thootrikkol" - "make hay while the Sun shines" is the dictum - but IR does not go to MFM for money alone - there is something called JOB SATISFACTION - ever heard of it ? if IR gets Job Satisfaction in MFM, what is wrong in him going to MFM ? your question as to "Does not IR owe to Tamils a lot ?" is like asking " do not the NRIs residing abroad owe a lot to Indians whose tax money has given them their degrees and also the stepping stone to go abroad and make money in dollars and pounds - so why don't all NRIs (including those from UK !!) come back and serve in India ?
MADHAN: I have explained this from my point of view, please try and understand!
When Software engineers can take refuge in the IBMs, Microsofts,SIEMENS and ORACLEs , what is wrong in IR taking musical refuge in MFM to give vent to his creativity ? Your question above is not only irrational but very silly and puerile.
Madhan: As a Sri lankan, I have no land to call my own, hence I was brought up in Africa and was educated and am working in the UK. It is by force and not by choice. If I was going to be safe in my own land and if I was to have the same EQUALITY as I have in the UK, I would be there….. I don’t have time to explain how much I have lost in Sri Lanka! Why am I at Oracle? Because I’m a Computing Graduate and I was called here for a job! I did not run away from giving service to my country to be here!
10) he re-cycles his own tunes in movies, like one song in Poonthottam, which I h 5) he has used the similar Beat pattern and Raga of Mustafa Mustafa in Ilavernik aalapanchami in MVU? Is that not trying to be ARRish?
Madhan: here this in IYO(In Your Opinion) ANS- No way !! on any day, I find " Ilavenir kaala" from MVU far more complete and superior to "Mustafa" from "Kaadhalan" …..MUSTHAFA is from KADHAL DHESAM, not KADHALAN! J This is what worries my at this DF, do most of you even bother to listen to any new music? SRINATH, you haven’t told me how many new albums)by this I mean in the last 2 years!) of ARR or IR you have heard!
11) So, is IR coming up with music like Agni Natchithiram nowadays?
Madhan: Nerukku Nerr was very much like Agni Natchathiram, but the director gave the music to DevaJ
12) If IR does not respect the Tamil community enough to give them quality suff, but respects the Malayaalees more, I wonder why that is. Why does IR need a Fazi l to do good work? Why blame bad song on a director? Did you see ESK? What a God awful film it was, the direction was terrible. ARR still produced good music for it, IMO. Why is IR not doing that? If he's not interested in film music, why i s he not releasing the symphony or doing other albums like NBW, HTNI, to satisfy us?
Madhan: I don’t need Oracle to do good work, if I’m being paid, I will do good work for any company….get my point?
ANSWER - Has already been given above - I have not heard ESK - so I cannot comment - IR needs a Fazil just the same way, Geetha needs ORACLE - IS THIS TRUE?
13) Madhan: As for your comments, you mis-interpret me saying booohooo as being wrong(why would I waste time contacting the RPH, if I didn't care? Why was that topic allowed in the forum when it had nothing to do with TFM?), you single me out w hen I, like others point out your mistake and even after I painstakingly e-mailed you and have reproduced the post and explained myself, come up with that?
Madhan: No, I’m not victimising myself, look at this posting, this is the one that started Raj off this time….
From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Mon Apr 26 07:12:58 EDT 1999
MPR/Chandy: I too got hold of Rajasthaan yesterday. My sentiments were reflected exactly by your posts. The Shankar Mahadevan song(Sorkatthile Nikka) was quite ARR sounding, I didn't expect this from IR. He has done a similar song in Chandraleka, Allah un aanai padi.
I also bought Kummi Paatu. Again, I'm very disappointed. After reading this forum for 2 years now, I buy every IR album as it's released, but they fail to impress me. In the recent 3, only one song in Chinnadurai was extremely good. Everything else leaves the ears a lot to be desired. We all critizise Padayappa, but at least the songs are listeneable.
Sorry to say this, but I'm hoping for a miracle in Geetha-Krishna's TIME, as IR is said to have produced many great tunes and the producer had to pick out 6 or something. I have to say that I'm frustrated at the stuff IR is producing, as he's doing plenty of albums, but very few are up to mark.
Now, look at this posting…..
From: Ram k (@ 202.54.69.66) on: Tue Apr 27 01:15:02 EDT 1999
Friends, We have all been quite strong in supporting IR for his music. But unfortunately during the recent times the great genius seems to be waning a bit faster than expected. Yes his recent one called as "Rajasthan" and "Nilave Mugam Kaattu" are miserable. They are no longer the bright music pieces of IR. One friend in his earlier response has written that "Kummipattu" is good. Unfortunately it is not available in Chennai at present. We can expect something from the movie called as "Time" starring prabhu deva and directed by krishna vamsi. Also the recent album named "MVU" was just great. I thought IR is coming back. But his later albums doesn't predict so. It seems that the genius has lost interest in producing songs, it seems. Some two years before when i was in anna university, we arranged for Karthik Raja to attend a function. During that we had a little chat. It seems that the maestro has stopped from listening to his environment or is no more interested in film music. Well for the recently started movie called as "Malabar Police" which was advertised as IR for doing the music has changed hands and has gone to SAR. The film Hey Ram has also changed hands to L.S. If only the maestro comes out with his symphony and his "jeya jeya he" it will quench the music thirst of his die hard IR fans like us. Please do let me know ur views on this one.
Raj didn’t say a work when this guy re-iterated what I said!
Look at this posting.
From: Unni (@ sable.soc.staffs.ac.uk) on: Wed Mar 24 10:23:58 EST 1999
Hello All, I'm new here, this is an interesting argument by MADHAN - Goa
"WRONG AGAIN.....Mohanam is Bhoop in Hindustani, whilst Yaman is a version of MechaKalyani - Also known as Yaman Kalyani(NRGMDNRS SNDPMGRNRS is one[of many controversial] Aarohanam Avarohanam of this lovely Ragam), popular song being Krishna Nee Beghane Baaro FYI, as RajaG said, on both accounts. I am also at doubt at your comment that Oru Kanam is in Mohanam....."
I have been very sincerely trying to ascertain the validity of my statement - my friend , a practicising Mrudangist, tells me that MOHANAM is indeed YAMAN !! this person has been playing the MRIDANG for a long be having some knowledge , if not as WIDE and BROAD A KNOWLEDGE OF MUSIC, that Ms.Geetha seems to be possessing !"
OK, lets see, YOU ARE WRONG - MOHANAM WILL NEVER BE YAMAN EVER, however much you say it, just like Raja will never again be Number 1. If your Mirudangist is a practicing one, he may be good at TALAM but OBVIOUSLY NOT RAGA. Now you and him look bad. I would say that his musical knowledge, as far as Rag is concerned is WRONG.
Madhan: YOU SAID NOTHING ABOUT THIS!
From: rajaG (@ kcecfp02.sprint.com) on: Thu Mar 18 12:01:56 EST 1999
Madhan,
No. Your posting is neither sufficient for anybody to understand nor it shows what 'we' all are trying to understand. BTW who is this 'we' anyway. Before you try to include yourself in a 'we' please make sure that the others wish to include you in the 'we' or wish to include themselves in you 'we'.
Aagaya veNNilaave does'nt sound like chalanaata at all. And Mohanam is Bhoopaali, Kalyani is Yaman. Please get your facts right, before you start criticizing others about their mistakes.
There are a lot of IR fans like me, who can still accept that, yes, it is possible that IR has been inspired/copied/plagiarised or whatever the word for the day is, from some other composition. True! These instances are very rare and do not represent IR's genius or character. But I think fans like me are 'secure' in that knowledge and not bothered by it and don't feel the compulsion to refute all/any such arguments with either personal attacks or outright denials. Ask yourself this question - If for some reason or external pressure, if IR blatantly copies a song tomorrow, are you going to jump off the IR bandwagon and deny his fantastic achievements during the past 3 decades? I think your answer should be NO. Even if your answer is YES, as much as it hurts your feelings to know this, Madhan's feelings are the last thing on IR's mind.
Madhan: YOU SAID NOTHING ABOUT THIS!
From: rajaG (@ kcecfp01.sprint.com) on: Tue Mar 23 13:58:50 EST 1999
Madhan,
Who is this Mridangam player anyway? First of all Mridangam is a Tala Vaadhyam so it does'nt logically flow that he necessarily knows about Raagas too. In any case, if he (or you on his behalf) claims that mohanam = yaman, I suggest you take the shortest route to Madras Music Academy and submit your/his discovery to them. One of you will definitely get a doctorate out of this. Please don't be disheartened by the 'way' in which this 'Ph.D' is delivered to you (it will hurt but you will get used to it).BTW what other gems do you have for us? :)
Hey, can your Mridangam friend (while he is waiting to board the train to go to Music Academy) also solve the transportation algorithm, cure for HIV, UFO, life in outer space and other such petty problems. Please share the name of this friend (whose words are the gospel truth to you) so that I can enter his name in my database of musicians to avoid:)
BTW my friend who is a violin player, has a cousin who is a bass guitarist - whose neighbor's dog thinks you are full of cra* when you stubbornly defend mohanam = yaman. Sure! What does a dog know anyway? Keep smiling!!
Madhan: You said nothing about this, Srinath condemed the comment, but you singled me out in your posting! This is why I’m so paranoid, as others can say what I say, but no comments are made, whereas, when I say it, it is blasted!
MS: Yes, Guru has a lot of Western Classical, but I would have to say that none of it's songs can beat Pookadhave or Vedham Nee, or as I said, Thendral Vandhu Ennai Thodum.
Madhan: These two songs I have mentioned are pure Carnatic/Weestern fusion numbers - YES, "IR aptly used WCM - with aplomb" for them as well. They are IMO 100% better than any song in Guru….IMO….That’s what I was trying to say to MS.
SRINATH: Remember this? The reason that I’m bringing this up is because I did not answer at the time. Here’s what I was trying to say to Madhan. His double posting had a gap in-between(In fact RagaG’s posting came between his 2 postings!) which indicated that he had read other people’s postings and then clicked again for his points to be highlighted! Also, about his love for IR which blinded him from Ragas, I was not ridiculing Madhan. I think I worded it badly, as here is what I said-
Where did you get this info. from? I know you love IR, but this information is WRONG?!?!? And, to post it twice? What are you thinking?????
DID YOU READ THIS BIT? It really makes you look bad, whereas you're trying to make a point, a good one at that.....
What I meant was that as he loved IR, he would say anything to stick up for him, even if the facts are very wrong! I didn’t say that his information was wrong BECAUSE he loved IR, but that because he loved IR, he was willing to post wrong information to get his facts through!
From: Srinath (@ 98ab3d04.ipt.aol.com) on: Sun Mar 28 13:06:32 EST 1999
Geetha:
You seem to suffer from a persecution complex. Your gender has very little to do with the so-called attacks on you. You have an opinion that is not to the liking of some people here, that's all. As Madhan has pointed out, his love for IR and accidental double posting have nothing to do with his knowledge of raagas. Your post ridiculing Madhan would have been well within accepted norms and a strong statement in your favour if not for those two claims (Madhan's love for IR and the double posting) which reduced the effect that you have otherwise achieved by simply using your knowledge. If you are not convinced, try posting with a different name much opposition for your favourable views of ARR. It is your opinion that is not liked or accepted by some here (including me). I am sure that as a person you are as good as any here. Have a nice time in France and don't let a public discussion linger in your mind long enough to upset you :-) <<<<
And, here’s the other point -
"You seem to suffer from a persecution complex. Your gender has very little to do with the so-called attacks on you. You have an opinion that is not to the liking of some people here, that's all."
I think that many DFers have opinions that are not to the liking of some people here, but I feel that for every comment I make, I get a lot of un-needed comments! Maybe it is a persecution complex! :)
- From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Wed May 5 12:42:29 EDT 1999
Madhan: Excellent work on the Chicagao Orchestra. By the way, I met with one of IR's Greatest fans in the UK. He actually changed his name which was Mohan into Mohana Raja, so that he could have something that mirrored his idol. He is in the process of speaking to the English Government about giving IR a SIR PATTAM. The channels he is using are going via the Brent Mayor(He supports Asian Issues a lot) and by submitting HTNI and NBW. I think he didn't like India 24 Hours as much, but I am going to try and persuade him to submit that too.
By the way, anyone got any details about IR's Ragam, PANCHAMUGHI? If there is a link about this already, please point it out. Thanks in advance.
- From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Wed May 5 12:42:29 EDT 1999
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Forums: Current Topics - Ilayaraja Albums - A.R. Rahman Albums - TFM Oldies - Fun & Games
Ilaiyaraja: Releases - News - Share Music - AR Rahman: Releases - News - AOTW - Tweets -
Discussions: MSV - YSR - GVP - Song Requests - Song stats - Raga of songs - Copying - Tweets
Database: Main - Singers - Music Director's - Lyricists Fun: PP - EKB - Relay - Satires - Quiz