Topic started by Kanchana (@ ww-tp05.proxy.aol.com) on Sun Apr 19 11:41:09 EDT 1998.
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TFM boasts of several contemporary poets like Bharadhidhasan, Pattukkottai Kalyanasundaram, Kannadhasan and Vali (Version I) who penned several songs dealing with social issues such as work ethic (uzhaippu), labor rights, women's position in society, religion, caste, patriotism/ nationalism, money/power/greed and the such. In addition, non-film kavidhaigaL from Bharadhi and Bharadhidhasan have been included in TFM to heighten social awareness.
Let's go ahead and discuss some of these songs--old and new--which address some key social issues even as they were entertaining the masses in the context of the movie situation. Please elaborate on the lyrics and your thoughts on the same as your time would allow.
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- From: Bhaskar (@ ww-ta04.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sun Apr 19 19:55:50 EDT 1998
Topic:
BS, No digressions :-)))))))
One of the songs that I remember instantly
is the song Pazhaga theriya vaenum from
Missiamma Music pOttavar: Rajeswara Rao
Pattu ezhudiyavar: Thanjai Raamaihdaas
Paadiyavar : AM Raaja.
Indha paadal enakku romba romba pidikkum,
Idhil irukkum karuthu, Samudhaya Karuthaa enna
vaendru enakku sariyaa theriyaadhu, but yaedhO
oru arumaiyaana karuthu irukku, luckily not for
Aangal :-)))).
Pazhaga thriyavaenum, Ulagil paarthu nadakka
vaendum, penne pazhaga theriya vaenum :-)))))
Pazhagaalathu nilai marandhu ......
Varungalathai neen unarndhu ......
Pazhaga theriyavaenum, Ulagil paarthu nadakka
vaendum, peNNE pazhaga theriya vaenum :-)))))
Pidivaadhamum edhir vaadhamum pengalukkae
koodadhu .......... Aaaaa ...... Aaaa ....
Pidivaadhamum edhir vaadhamum pengalukkae
koodadhu
Bedham illama idhayathOdu perumaiyOdu,
porumaiyAga ..........
Pazhaga thriyavaenum, Ulagil paarthu nadakka
vaendum, peNNE pazhaga theriya vaenum :-)))))
Kadu kaduvena muga maarudhal karunadaga vazhakka
andrO...... OOOOO ..... OOOOOOOO
Kadu kaduvena muga maarudhal karunadaga vazhakka
andrO......
Kanniyargal aAdavarai punngaiyaaal vendridavae
(Kanniyargal aAdavarai Smileys-galaal veNdridavaE :-))))))
Pazhaga thriyavaenum, Ulagil paarthu nadakka
vaendum, penne pazhaga theriya vaenum ...
Same tune another song is sung by P Leela.
Indha paadal is very self explanatory....
Therindhu kollanum peNNe,
Adhai pOl nadadhu kollanum peNNE,
Therindhu kollanum peNNE ...
Nilai maaridum aAdavarudan
neRungamalae pazhagavae ....
NEE, Therindhu kollanum peNNe,
Adhai pOl nadadhu kollanum peNNE,
Thanakku udhavi vaendinaalum
Thaanagavae pOgadhaE
Inikka paesi avadhooraaa yaelanamae seiyvaar endru
Therindhu kollanum peNNE ...
Pala vaarthaikku oru vaarthayyum
Badhilae solla koodadhu .... Ahhhh.....
Pala porulpada illadhadhai parisakkavae
Thunivaar endru ...
Therindhu kollanum peNNE .....
Will be back with more actual "Samudhaaya
Karuthulla Paadals"
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Sun Apr 19 22:30:43 EDT 1998
Kanchana:
enakku suththamaa oru bit free time-um illaadha samayam paarththu
indha nalla topic aarambichchutteengaLE? Anyway, I will contribute as
I get time. I will dig out some "unknown" oldies from some books
on TFM I have. To start, here are some...
Bhaskara Dhaas enbavardhaan TFM-in mudhal paadal aasiriyar. niRaya
dhEsa bhakthi koNdavar. vaLLi thirumaNam padaththil Murugan
maaRu vEdaththil vaLayal vittrukkoNdu paadum paadalil Swadheshi
sindhanaigaLai nuzhaiththaar:
vaLayal vaangalaiyO ammammaa
vaLayal vaangalaiyO oru
maasillaadha indhu sudhEsi vaLayal
ChandhrOdhayam padaththil pudhiyadhOr ulagam seyvOm endra
paadalum, Kalangarai viLakkam padaththil sangE muzhangu
paadalum BharathidhAsan ezhudhiya samooga uNarvup paadalgaL.
N.S.Krishnan ennum seerthiruththak kOmaaLi niRaya nalla
paadalgaL nichchayam ezhudhiyiruppaar. (Manisekaran: nee engE?
um sEvai engaLukku thEvai ingE!)
T.K.Sundhara Vaaththiyaar enbavar, Sathi Leelavathy endra padaththil
thEyilai thOttap paNikkaaga kooligaLaaga thamizhargaL ilangaiyil
padum thuyaraip patri ippadi paadiyuLLaar (Late 1930):
thEyilaith thOttaththilE - Bhaaratha
sEygaL sendru maaygiRaar ayyyaiyO
nOyaal varundhugiRaar - edhir
nOkkum savukkadith thaakkudhalum ayyayyO
1958-il Paanai pidiththavaL bhaagyasaali padaththil
purushan veettil vaazhap pOgum peNNE
endru peNgaLukku nalla advise koduththavarum indha kaninjarE.
(Does anyone know the full lyrics for this song?)
(Kamal-in mudhal paadalaana ammaavum neeyE appaavum neeyE
paadalai punaindhavarum ivarE!)
Udumalai Narayana Kavi ezhudhiyavai sila:
1950-il MaNamagaL padaththil NSK-kkaaga ezhudhiyadhu:
sudhandhiram vandhadhuNNu sollaadheenga - solli
summaa summaa veRum vaayai mellaadheenga
kudikka thaNNeerillaadhu perum koottam thavikkudhu - siRu
kumbal mattum Orange pazha juice kudikkudhu
More later as I get time ...
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-tk06.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sun Apr 19 22:44:40 EDT 1998
Bhaskar:
That song was written in the 1950s by Ramiahdoss to conform with the "norms" set for women by the society (to be seen & not heard, wile with a smile, men are not trustworthy/ so please be paranoid & don't talk much to them etc.) These were precisely the norms Bharadhi was hoping would change to make way for his pudhumaippeN as mentioned in my account of Bharadhi's Vision above.
I sincerely hope that today's reality is closer to Bharadhi's vision than the 50s song you've mentioned above.
More later....
- From: arvind (@ nhv-ct4-18.ix.netcom.com)
on: Sun Apr 19 22:48:35 EDT 1998
kan sivandhAl man sivakkum....
--manidhA manidhA ini un vizhigaL
sivandhAl ulagam vidiyum
vizhiyil vadiyum udhiram muzhudhum
ini un saridham yezhudhum
asaiyum kodigaL uyarum uyarum
nilavin mudhugai urasum (manidhA.....)
pala AarugaL OdudhadA
varalArugaL maaruthada
pasiyAl pala yEzhaigaL
sAvadhu yenbadhu
dhEsiyamAnadhadA
ini pAl varum yenbadhum
thEn varum yenbadhum
jOsiyam Aanadhada
ada sAttaigaLE
ini theervugal yEnbadhu
soosagamAnadhadA (manidhA)
oLiveesuga sooriyanE
yugamARudhu vAlibanE
pala tholviyinaal pudhu vELviyilAl
ini sothanai heernthuvidum
pala Aayiram Aayiram
sooriya dhEbangaL boomiyil thOndrivudum
ada samaram veesiya paarama jaadhigal
sadhanai kandu vidum (manidhA)
- From: gOpAl (@ 1cust43.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net)
on: Sun Apr 19 23:01:10 EDT 1998
Arvind
Thanks for writing manidhA manidhA. I think its
"pala tholviyinaal pudhu vELviyinAl". Right?
pAlannE, yezhudhungannE. pAththukkittu irundhA pOdhumA?
- From: Bhaskar (@ ww-tb03.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sun Apr 19 23:09:24 EDT 1998
Kanchana:
Enakkum suththamaa oru bit free time-um illaadha
samayam paarththu indha dhooL! topic
aarambichchutteengaLE? Anyway, I will contribute
as I get time. I will dig out some "unknown"
oldies from some cassettes on TFM that I have.
To start, here are some...
Keerthi Sir, ennai kaathula vitturunga, unga
wordings-aa Deva Stylil cut & paste seidhadharkku
mannikkavum.
Enakku type seiyya kooda naeram kidayaadhu :-)))
BS neenga adikkadi chinna payyan payyannnu solli
irukeenga, Indha vaaram namma ooru
tentu-kottaiyula namma Vaathiyaaru padam
onnu pOttu irukkaanga, naan rendu thara ticket
book pannitaen, vaanga pOi paarpOm.
Veetlaerndhu Kalla muttai-ukku mattrum anju paisa
patthu paisa silrai kaasi vaangikuttu vandhudu,
Vaathiyaar varappo ellam kaasu vittu erindhu
dhooL! kilappanum.
Indha padathula namma Vaathiyaar
unakaagavae oru sooper Samudhaya Karuthulla
paattu paadi irukkar, Samudhaaya Karuthu illama
namma Vaathiyaar padathula act kudukkuradhillai.
IdhO vandhaar paaru, enga kaasu thooki pOdu
screen maela! Wistle adippa! Ovi Ovi Ovi Ovi!!!!
BS indha pattula da, da, nnu varum naan sollala!
Pattukottai Kalyanam sundaram dhaan solraaru!
So, No thapps! OK!
Padam: Arasilangumari (1961)
Lyrics: Pattukotai Kalyanamsundaram
Music : G Ramanathan
Padiyavar: TMS
Chinna payalae chinna payalae seidhi kaelada
Chinna payalae chinna payalae seidhi kaelada
Naan solla pOra vaarthai nalla enni paaruda
Nee enni paaruda
Aalum valaranum, arivum valaranum,
Adhudhaanda valarchi ...
Ditto ...
Unnai aasaiyOda yaendravalukku,
Adhuvae nee tharum magizhchi ...
Naalum ovvoru paadam koorum,
Kaalam tharum payirchi ...
Un narambOdu dhaan pinni valaranum,
Thanmaana unarchi ...
Chinna payalae chinna payalae seidhi kaelada
Manidhanaaga vazhndhida vaendum,
Manadhil vaiyyadaa ...
Thambi Ramki Manadhil vaiyyadaa ...
Valarndhu varum ulagathukkae,
Valadhu kaiyyadaa, Nee valadhu kaiyaada...
Thani udamai kodumaigal theera,
Thondu seiyyada, nee thondu seiyyada ...
Thaana ellaam maarum enbadhu,
Pazhayaa poiyadaa, ellam pazhaya poiyaada ...
Chinna payalae chinna payalae seidhi kaelada
Veppam mara ucchiyil ninnu pEi onnu aadudhunnu,
Vilayaada pOgum bodhu solli vaippanga
Undhan veerathai kozhandhaiyilae killi vaippanaga!
Velaiyathha veenargalin moolaiyattra,
Vaarhtaigalai, vaedikkaiyaaga kooda
nambi vidhadhae ...
Nee vettukulla bayandhu kidandhu venbividadhae,
Nee venbividadhae ...
Eppadi paattu, edhavadhu puriyudhaa BS ?
Puriyalaenna manappadam pannu :-)))))
Pal:
Vanakkam! enna neenga naan OramA ukkAnthu
kEttukitRukkean! solliteenga! Summa vandhu
dhooL pannunga! JEANS thread-la AK-47 Machine
Gun eduthukuttu summa sooperaa ellarayum
suttu posukkureenga :-)))) orE pOga pollution :-))
thaangama dhaan naan inga vandhaen :-)))
Naan andha areavukkae varalae adhunaala dhaan
ippo uyirOda irukkaen. Inga suttudaadheenga enna,
naan IR pathi edhuvum thappa sollamaataen!
Columbus:
Columbus Columbus, Raanuvam,Sandai, IR/ARR War,
Bloody politics, anu aayudham, pollution yaedhum
illamal, TFMDF theevu ondru tharuvaaya ?
Romba Nanrippa Columbus!
- From: gOpAl (@ 1cust43.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net) on: Sun Apr 19 23:15:00 EDT 1998
"ondru yengaL jAdhiyE ondru yengaL needhiyE"
"uzhaikkum kaigaLE uruvAkkum kaigaLE"
"veLLippanimalaiyin meedhulAvuvOm"
"nanjai undu punjai undu"
"yEn yendra kELvi"
(ayyO MGR pAttula pAdhi thErum "urimai geedha" pAttukkaL....)
- From: gOpAl (@ 1cust43.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net) on: Sun Apr 19 23:15:00 EDT 1998
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