Raga of song please
Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
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The popular notation used on this page. The twelve notes of an octave are the following.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 S R1 R2 R3 G3 M1 M2 P D1 D2 D3 N3 G1 G2 N1 N2
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- From: Alright (@ 206.175.176.2)
on: Mon May 20 14:25:59 EDT 2002
Is 'oru rAgam pAdalOdu kAdhil kEttadhO' mAnd?
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241)
on: Mon May 20 19:03:59 EDT 2002
Isaimanam:
Your question:
Radhaku Neevaera PraaNam from Thulaabaaram (Telugu) sung by PS is a
great favourite of mine and have been thinking that it is in
Chakravaakam. Here is the link:
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/myway/627/radhaku.ram (website is
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/myway/627/telugusongs.html ).
However, the gamakas, prayogas (?) are very much similar to Chalo Man
of KJY which you had said was in Ahir Bhairav. I understand both
these ragas are similar (
http://www.webindia.com/artindia/nithya.htm ).
So, can anyone pl. confirm the raga of Radhaku neevaera?
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This raga chakravaakam which goes by the name aahir bhairav in hindustani is one with a fantastic melody intrinsic in it. Any song in this raga is bound to have a little tinge of sadness because this raga is so emotionally provocative. In the hands of IR, t became a romantic duet though : "nee paadhi naan paadhi kaNNe" - from pudhu pudhu arththangaL is an apt example.
Another important thing to be noted while singing this raga, IMO, is that once again the stress on Ma is too much which leads to its another equally moving/ beautiful raga - sarasaangi.
Sa ri1 ga3 ma1 pa dha2 ni2 sa - chakravaakam
ma1 pa dha2 ni2 sa ri1 ga3 ma1
(or)
Sa ri2 ga3 ma1 pa dha1 ni3 sa - Sarasaangi
I shall soon upload a beautiful number of Hariharan (shehar dar shehar liye phirta hoon thanhaayi ko - a ghazal from Hazir) which gives you the feel of chakravaakam but setin sarasaangi. Sarasaangi also has the flavour of chaarukesi since it differs by only the nishaadham.
In hindi, "dheere dheere subah huyi jaag uti zindhagi" is one song which mixes all these ragas. Sung by KJY. 'll try to upload that too.
On keeravani:
umpteen number of songs have been tuned in this raga by IR. for a sad kheeavani u have "malaiyOram veesum kaatru manasoram paadum paattu" and if u want to propose to bhanupriya u have "kheeravaaNi ..iravile pagalile paada vaani" which is probably the best light musical form of kheervani. :-) IR has this tendency to base a song in keeravani and touch accidental notes like Ni2 and D2 for embellishment. Another example is "aruna kiraNa dheepam" from guru. In this song G3 comes as a na accidental note which is pretty surprising.
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Mon May 20 19:41:27 EDT 2002
MS,
I think "Nee Padhi naan Padhi" is in KeLadi KanmaNi
- From: MS (@ )
on: Mon May 20 19:46:17 EDT 2002
oho..and "kELadi kaNmaNi" is from pudhu pudhu arththangaL ? ore confoosan :-)
- From: ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Mon May 20 20:04:33 EDT 2002
yep u r right....But I think KeLadi Kanmani from Pudhu Pudhu ArthangaL is mostly Natabhairavi
- From: isaiosai (@ 68.13.248.203)
on: Mon May 20 20:53:41 EDT 2002
MS, thanks for the clarification and explanation...and confoosan:-)
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126)
on: Tue May 21 00:47:20 EDT 2002
Alright
Somewhere i read oru Raagam paadalodu kaadhil kaettadho FROM aanandha raagam, sung by KJY and SJ(?) is in MOHANAM. Pundits please clarify.
- From: satsona (@ 203.199.192.162)
on: Tue May 21 01:24:21 EDT 2002
can anyone pls let me know the raaga of song "Azhage" by KJY from Raaja Paarvai.
is it same as the "blues" scale?
also, it would be apt if someone gives the notes for the 1st line---
My try for the 1st line(using the 12-swara scheme)---
dha Sa Ga1....Ga1 Ga1 Ga2.....Ga2 Dha Pa Ga2.....Sa Re Ga2 Sa dha.....
IR_Fan, Sindhuja, Ram etc., i think yet another example of Grihabhedham(sorry to provoke this topic again) but this song is really confusing me:)
IR, MS and other experts, pls help.SOS
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Tue May 21 01:48:09 EDT 2002
Intha Grahabedha,ShruthiBedham la ellam ennaiyum IR_Fan aiyum izhukaatheenga...naanga veralai intha vilayaatukku.....engalukku JaathiBetham,Madha Bedha,Shruthi Bedham ethuvum pidikkaathu
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.148)
on: Tue May 21 05:20:44 EDT 2002
IR_Fan,
enga aalaiye kanom?
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Tue May 21 08:57:37 EDT 2002
:-))Ram
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.88)
on: Tue May 21 09:30:12 EDT 2002
IR_Fan ethukkaiyaa sirippu?....ethaavathu pudhu paattu kandu pidichaangila?
- From: IR_Fan (@ 203.199.250.69)
on: Tue May 21 12:55:33 EDT 2002
Anyone heard "Kaathurindhaa Malli Malli Poothirukku Thulli Thulli" sung by P.Susheela? (is the film vathiyaar veetu pillai or mallu vaetti minor...some sathyaraj movie, music IR)..It sounds 'RASIKARANJANI' ?
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.88)
on: Tue May 21 13:28:44 EDT 2002
IR_Fan I have heard that song...but dont think it is Rasikaranjani...will let u know after I listen to that song one more time
- From: IR_Fan (@ 203.199.250.69)
on: Tue May 21 13:39:40 EDT 2002
Ram, u give eternal attendance in this thread don't you :-). Ram, listen to the charanams...i feel that way...
Ok, another song....does "isaimedayil" have 'dharbhari kanada' base? (from ilamai kalangal)
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Tue May 21 15:20:03 EDT 2002
Isai Medayil is Pukka IR_Fan...i thought it is already in the list
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Wed May 22 02:36:59 EDT 2002
what is the ROS aarumugamaana poruL vaan magizha vandhaan azhagan ivan murugannena iniya paeyar kondaan FROM kandhan karunai?
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.208)
on: Wed May 22 02:37:37 EDT 2002
Guys,
what do u think abt "En uyir neethane" I think it is similar to Chinna Chinna Vanna kuyil in Muona Raagam(mixture of (GM/KeeravaNi)
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.208)
on: Wed May 22 03:13:00 EDT 2002
Kupps,
it is raagamaalika with pallavi in Kambhoji(ithu mattum sure illai),
Hindlolam(Pazhani)
Chakravaham(swamimalai),
Kanada(thiruchendur),
Hamsanandhi(thruparamkunRam),
Naattakurunji(thiruthani),
kaapi(pazhamudhircholai).....experts will point out the mistakes:-)
- From: ram (@ 63.161.25.208)
on: Wed May 22 04:09:34 EDT 2002
IR,
kudukkara kaasukku mattum velai paarunga...romba uzhaikaama engalukkum konjam dharisnam kodunga:-)
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.218)
on: Wed May 22 10:47:05 EDT 2002
:-) ram - all questions are answered very well by someone , before I get a chance to even read the posts. What can I do :-)
- From: G.Ramaswamy (@ 194.59.176.11)
on: Wed May 22 10:54:05 EDT 2002
IR_Fan,
"kAththirundha malli" confuses me too - vasantha? Hamsanandhi? Poorvikalyani?
G.Ramaswamy
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.218)
on: Wed May 22 12:21:07 EDT 2002
IR_Fan, GR, is this song available on the net?
- From: IR_Fan (@ 203.199.245.169)
on: Wed May 22 21:56:31 EDT 2002
IsaiRasigai,
I will send u the real format file...listen and give ur opinion...i now feel it is Lalitha based :-). And IR, even if someone has answered to a question, you can give some value added inputs :-) OK'Vaa?
:-)G Ramaswamy..
r u by any chance the person ramaswamy gireesan, who hosts that song/raga database (which is presently not viewable using the URL link i early had)?
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126)
on: Wed May 22 23:51:18 EDT 2002
you can give some value added inputs
IR_Fan don't use redundant words, when people like IR give some input it necessarily means value added.
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.148)
on: Thu May 23 03:14:05 EDT 2002
Kupps,
unga kElvikku oru bathil post panninene oru acknowledgement kedayaatha?...ithula yaaravathu bathil sollalaina mattum vanthu kurai pattukareenga(en sir naan thappaathan solvennu avlo nambikkaiyaa ungalukku?):-))
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126)
on: Thu May 23 04:19:11 EDT 2002
aiyoo Ram, sorry thanks for the post
i was just carried away by my irresistible thought of replying to IR_Fan. Sorry once again.
Thanks for that extensive list of raagaas for that song. u know my knowledge is so great that i thought this song was composed in only one raaga.
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.148)
on: Thu May 23 04:33:52 EDT 2002
Kupps,U dont have get defensive...i was just pulling ur leg(ethukkum verify pannikange b'cos I'm not too far from as far as knowledge is concerned:-)
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Thu May 23 04:50:55 EDT 2002
ayya Kupps,ethanai naala ippadi aasai vachirindheenga? :-)
- From: srinath G (@ 202.142.96.99)
on: Thu May 23 08:59:37 EDT 2002
dear sir,
please mail the lyrics of the krithi
niravarasukhada in raga poorvykalyani
thanking you
yours obedintly
srinath
- From: srinath G (@ 202.142.96.99)
on: Thu May 23 08:59:45 EDT 2002
dear sir,
please mail the lyrics of the krithi
niravarasukhada in raga poorvykalyani
thanking you
yours obedintly
srinath
- From: ram (@ 63.161.25.208)
on: Thu May 23 21:43:18 EDT 2002
hai all,
"Nila Kaayudhu neram nalla nEram"(Gilma Song)...I think it is SuddasAveri Based....please clarify
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