Topic started by Ramesh Vaidhyanathan (@ gengw.gensym.com) on Fri Mar 13 15:14:51 EST 1998.
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I listened to VandeMatharam in which ARR recycled his own tunes from Kizhakku Ceemayile and a touch of a song from Indira.
Also ARR's recent movies for big time producers like Ratchagan and Iruvar (except one song) and Dhoud in Hindi did not have any notable music. Remember ARRs last hit Minsarak Kanavu music was done long time ago.
If for a major album for Sony released on 50th year of Indian Independence, ARR cannot produce original music, then I have to come to the conclusion that he is running out of stuff. I heard that ARR is planning to cut down on movies and concentrate more on albums. Thus he will have to produce less and earn more.
Right now I do not see any difference in the quality of music produced by ARR and Karthik Raja. In fact I think Deva is doing a better job of providing consistant good quality music.
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- From: rajaG (@ kcecfp01.sprint.com)
on: Fri Mar 12 15:37:12 EST 1999
Raj,
andha mEdhai idhukkellaam appaarpattavar. avarukku musical instuments vEndaam. Sony cassette player irundhaa pOdhum? dEvaa thannai ulaginukkEy thandhu......
Guys,
Honestly, I'm having a lot of fun. So, please don't feel offended.
- From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Fri Mar 12 15:44:06 EST 1999
rajaG: :)
- From: Mr.Kuzapam (@ 206.139.13.152)
on: Fri Mar 12 15:45:24 EST 1999
"The point is Raja has handled these automatic signals superbly" -- agreed singal is just for one road (Tamil)
Ipa minimum 5 road swami ---- programing the signal romba tough.
Eg: Desiya geetham -- Drum programing is sutham, yetho ready made beats ---- we cannot find a good and new sound sample in a song, same old combinations - Unable to find new sound combinations, unwilling (or unable) to use properly the new groove styles - same old chord progressions. Arkuthapa...
we need something new...and different
btw: I am a music litrate..so I am ready to discuss musicaly also.
- From: Srinath (@ ss01.nc.us.ibm.com)
on: Fri Mar 12 15:49:48 EST 1999
In conclusion...is ARR running out of stuff yet ?
This is so unfair...kalakalamaga indha DFla ella adithadi sandaikaaga thaane, "IR is the greatest MD in TFM", "Best MD in India", enrellaam threads irukku. Andha arumayaana threadsla irukkura arumaayaana posts (adhavadhu, ennudaya posts ;-)) ellaathayum vittutu, yenpa thiruppi ippadi pudhusa sanda podareenga ?
Guys:
Keyboardsukku thaniya oru 400 pakkam irukkum archivesla. Inimel edhavadhu point sollanumna, archivela thedi, directa andha relevant page-ukku link kodunga ! Type pannara timeum michamaagum, yosikara timeum michamaagum :-)
- From: rajaG (@ kcecfp01.sprint.com)
on: Fri Mar 12 15:51:03 EST 1999
Swami,
"Let him come up with a soul soother like 'kanne kalaimane', I will salute thee" appadinnu neenga sonnEL. 'a' naa singular thaanEy? naa thaan oNNukku rendaa irukkattumEynnu, rendu example eduththu vittEn. ippa salute pOdaNumnaa 200 paattu vENum nu solrEyLEy. idhu enga paatti maavadu vikkaravan kitta bEram pEsara maadhirinnaa irukku!. adhellaam kedaiyaadhu. neenga oNNU kEttEL , naa kuduththuttEn. neenga salute pOttu, adha photo eduththu, engaLukkellaam (mukkiyamaa ARR pOttu kaamichchaaththan) ARR aathmaa saanthi adaiyum. illainnaa avar veLLai pudavai katindu vandhu raaththiri onga kanavula vandhu bayamuruththuvaar.kooda keyboardla, illa violins and flute saththam vEru thondharavu paNNum.
- From: Srinath (@ ss01.nc.us.ibm.com)
on: Fri Mar 12 15:52:25 EST 1999
Mr.Kuzhapam:
Chordsukku thaniya oru 150 pakkam irukkum. Beatsukku innoru 100 pages. This invitation is for you also to directly link the previous arguments here. Whoever comes up with the maximum number of links will win ! OK-wa ? :-)
- From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Fri Mar 12 15:53:14 EST 1999
And RajaG: I just thought of a super-idea. I just spoke to Anumalik, Shravan and Dilip Sen. They have all , in true sporting spirit("Kya, ek madrasi humse muquabla chahta hai..chalo, uska chutti kar dete hai"), agreed to meet your challenge head-on. This being a special task needign special talents, they have all decided to pool in all their 'resources' and make a concerted joint-effort to satisfy you. Nadeem, however, will not be able to contribute his mite due to his legal problems. However, he sends his wishes and prayers to the three musketeers' success. He has also promised them that he'll try to sneak into LondoN RPHO and flick a preview of Raja's symphony for them.
My Bombay correspondent reports that the Threesome have already left for the airport to board the first plane to Kansas!
As a well-wisher of yours, I am warning you now itself. Run for cover:)
(I will have no problems taking up you place at sprint.com, if you worry about your employers losing a valuable employee:))
- From: Srinath (@ ss01.nc.us.ibm.com)
on: Fri Mar 12 15:54:33 EST 1999
rajaG:
Ottumotham ippadi ARRa saavadichiteengalae ! Nyayama ? :-)
- From: Swami. (@ avalanche-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se)
on: Fri Mar 12 15:59:37 EST 1999
Enna Mr.rajaG periya varthai yella sollarel. Ennaku romba bayam irukku. Yerkanave ARR with the long hair parkathukku baya irrukar. Yen intha vilayattu avrruku.
Then i asked for a song like 'kanne kalaimane'. enna Mr.rajaG yethi yetho pattu sorry rendu paathu example kuduthu joke adikarel. Come up with serious examples.
- From: rajaG (@ kcecfp01.sprint.com)
on: Fri Mar 12 16:00:42 EST 1999
Srinath,
pinna enna. 'verum' keyboards therinjavaa ellaam 'aviyinum vaazhinum en?' kEvalam, oru true music lover a salute pOda vakkalai. ivaa ellaam enna MD pa?
- From: Mr.Kuzapam (@ 206.139.13.152)
on: Fri Mar 12 16:05:49 EST 1999
Srinath :
..is ARR running out of stuff yet ? No...
He is doing his work, he activities are more diversified to tamil, hindi,telugu.
6 songs in tamil
6 songs in hindi
6 songs telugu
on an averagee for a song he takes around a month
, he expects the same quality in all the 3.
(so you can calcuate the time period.) -- so the
production is at a very slow speed. So this makes most of us think he is loosing his ground, and you guys after witnessing the downfall of IR -- (could not bear it) -- started pouncing on the newcomers. Arr impressed many in a very short span
Arr was considered as a rival to IR - which itself is big sucess to ARR...
IR is the greatest of the TFMa -- evvanga mudivu eduthangalam... -- Nala Joke...
also
Srinath thanks for the pointers, i will look into it.
- From: rajaG (@ kcecfp01.sprint.com)
on: Fri Mar 12 16:08:10 EST 1999
Swami,
enakku onga request puriyaama pOyiduththu. enakkEy puriyalainnaa, sathyamaa ARRkku puriyaadhu:-). ongaLukku with violins and flute, kaNNey kalaimaanEy vENum. avvaLavu thaanEy? idha pOyi ARR kitta kEttundu, neenga vEra! naa ippavEy sollidarEn, ARR aala mudiyaadhu. aanaa 'thennagaththin xerox sooraavaLi' dEvaa irukkindraar. ongaLukku edhu originalnu theriyaadha maadhiri avvaLavu azhagaa copy adichchu koduppaar. Please assume the posture for a salute and be ready. illainnaa dEvaa...veLLai pudavai...Well, you get the drift.
- From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Fri Mar 12 16:12:51 EST 1999
Sri and RajaG: I think we should be moving to dhkjsfl...but somehow, I have more fun in this thread than there . Why?:)
"...adaiyum. illainnaa avar veLLai pudavai katindu vandhu raaththiri onga kanavula vandhu bayamuruththuvaar.kooda keyboardla, illa violins and flute saththam vEru thondharavu paNNum. .."
Too good! ROTFloorL! But ippadi "Rahman Athma santhi adaiyum" nu ellam solli, avara mothama close pannittengalae. Erkanave , Anu malik, shravan ellam thuratha poraanga ungalai. Innum indha paavam vera? Kadavul ummai kappatruvaaraga:)
Sri::) ..Today has been great fun ...I was only missing you... glad to see you back..we only need srikanth to complete the party:)
Aiya!Kuzhambiya Kuttai! Raja Tamil, telugu, kannada, malayalam endru ella roadsaiyum manage panninavar, panni kondiruppavar thaan. If you think that he has been traversing only the Tamil road, I can only say you are being blissful(as the saying goes:))
- From: Mr.Kuzambia Kuttai (HAIYA New name) endra Mr.Kuzapam (@ 206.139.13.152)
on: Fri Mar 12 16:15:39 EST 1999
Payadhu odivitar -- Raj
- From: Swami (@ avalanche-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se)
on: Fri Mar 12 16:18:24 EST 1999
Mr. Kuzhapam,
Oriya, bengali, Punjabi.....ithulayyum loncham kala viduvara?
mr.rajaG.
illainnaa dEvaa...veLLai pudavai...
pinnadi sabesh patta??.....
vellapudava deva
konchum aathu pakkam vada
paduvenda shokka
patta unnaku nica...
aiyoo kadavule ippadi enna corrupt pannitiye..
Its fun today people.
- From: Swami (@ avalanche-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se)
on: Fri Mar 12 16:24:22 EST 1999
kadaisya enna conclusion makkale?
- From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Fri Mar 12 16:29:15 EST 1999
Kuzhappam! Wishful thinking! I am very much here:)
Do you really want me to continue countering you? Hey! Its 3'oclock in the night ,man. I have got to sleep ,too:). See you tomorrow.
- From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Fri Mar 12 16:32:06 EST 1999
Swami : The final conclusion(thanks to Ram..avar enge ponaro:)) is that
Raja Raja thaan.
Oru kattile aayiram (rah)maangal irukkalaam. Aanaal, oru singam thaan kaattukke Raja. TFM-ai porutha varayil Raja thaan antha singam:)
(Ada!Paravaillaiye!Enaku kooda pun ellam varuthe!)
- From: rajaG (@ kcecfp02.sprint.com)
on: Fri Mar 12 16:33:26 EST 1999
Conclusion: ARR - Violin, flute theriyaadhu - gnyaana soonyam
IR - groove style theriyaadhu, chord progression pazhasu - kasumaalam.
dEvaa - at least from the posts above, no criticism.
veLLai pudavai dEvaa thaan unanimous winner!
- From: Swami (@ avalanche-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se)
on: Fri Mar 12 16:34:11 EST 1999
kalakiteenga Mr.Raj
- From: SM (@ nat01smurugap.sgum.mci.com)
on: Fri Mar 12 16:38:34 EST 1999
Raj,
> It was just a repartee..and I added a
> smiley,too,no?. I didnt mean really to irritate
> kuzhapam specially.. I know that my posts
> naturally irritate most people:)
I saw the smiley and that is why I added a smiley to my posting. C'mon. I don't think your postings will irritate anyone. After all, we are all just having fun, right? Aaga motham, indha threada innoru 'dhkj'aava maathiyaachu!!!
- From: rajaG (@ kcecfp02.sprint.com)
on: Fri Mar 12 16:40:20 EST 1999
Guys,
BTW now that we have solved this question, can we attempt the following 'lesser' problems?
Solution for world hunger.
What came first, Chicken or egg?
ennudaiya amOgamaana conclusion kku atleast oru Nobel Prize aavadhu neengallaam ennai nominate seyyalainnaa, neengallaam sariyaana vayaththerichhal pervazhingara obvious and right conclusion kku thaan naan varuvEn!
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