Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
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I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)
"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."
Wow! Beautiful voice!
Neel's VJ Songs
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- From: YVS MANI (@ 164.100.11.114)
on: Thu Aug 29 05:06:02 EDT 2002
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- From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169)
on: Thu Aug 29 21:30:35 EDT 2002
Saravanan,
I have no details of "mAnenRum" other than the film name. I think the last stanza of "mAnenRum" kept the song off-air. And for how many years...... When I discovered this song few months ago I was so happy I found it and I was so sad listening to it.
"thangaththil thEr ceithu un kaiyil kodukka
thAimAman yArum unakkillaiyE"
The lament is so touching, one can feel the yearning of the mother who wants to share her child with a family she does not have. The stress in "thanggggaththil" drives the sadness deep inside the listener.
"mAnaththai uyirAi mathikkum un pAttan
maganE unaip pArkka inRillaiyE"
The way VJ sings "mA...naththai" and "uyirA..i" with a bold "A.." so beautifully displays how proud the woman is about her father. Immediately followed by the next line where the pride is replaced with expression of loss.
A song made just for VJ and as usual VJ gives it her best. A powerpacked lullaby that hits right in your face.
- From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169)
on: Thu Aug 29 21:35:05 EDT 2002
Everyone,
"vANi pAdinAL ange isai veLLam - avar
isai engu uNdO angE en uLLam"
Did you guess the new solo uploaded?
Happy listening! http://www.vanijayaram.com
Coming soon. Night club series.
- From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169)
on: Thu Aug 29 22:03:09 EDT 2002
Sorry, should be pAdinA"l".
- From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.225)
on: Fri Aug 30 06:42:17 EDT 2002
Needl, do u hv "Sree Sree Sree Unathu Paadal Naan" from Vankathukuriya Kaathaliye?
- From: kik (@ 207.0.105.155)
on: Fri Aug 30 22:00:11 EDT 2002
A while back there was discussion that VJ didn't sing in MSV/KD's krishna gaanam. She has sung in the follow up album kannanukku daasan kannadaasan (MSV/KD) - manakkOvil koNdezhunthaan gOvinthan.
- From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169)
on: Fri Aug 30 23:00:38 EDT 2002
Everyone,
"Hey I love you" and "thangkaththil mugameduththu" have been uploaded. Happy listening!
http://www.vanijayaram.com
- From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.219)
on: Sat Aug 31 08:48:25 EDT 2002
Saravanan,
1.Elsewhere in this thread, you had mentioned about 'Moham Muppathu Varusham'. Yes, it was one of those 'New Wave' stories by Manian in Vikatan, when he was competing effectively with writers like 'Pushpa Thangadurai'! ( In fact, PT's first novel in Dinamani Kadhir was ' Oru Oodhappoo kann chimittugiRathu', also made into a film, with the same vintage 1974-75! Prior to this PT used to write only short stories, though as Srivenugopalan, he used to write differently!)
2. Elsewhere, I think you had mentioned about 'Sollaththaan NinaikkiREn'. Maniyan's original story was named ' Ilavu Kaaththa kiLiyO?'. When it was staged, it was named as 'Sollaththaan NinaikkiREn' and the movie by KB also had the same name.
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.171)
on: Sat Aug 31 09:11:14 EDT 2002
Neel- thank you again for the latest additions- Pon vanna veenai especially.
C V- thanks for the inputs.
- From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169)
on: Sat Aug 31 21:32:25 EDT 2002
Everyone,
Two rare duets with TMS have been uploaded. Happy listening!
Saravanan,
Do you have any details on the movie "Sattaththin Marupakkam"?
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Sun Sep 1 06:32:38 EDT 2002
After Krishna Ganam MSV did a similar Bhakthi padal cassette for Saraswathi stores-this time in praise of Aarokiya Matha.
There is a KJY-Vani duet ,KJY solo and a MSV solo which i can recall:
Duet : Annaye ..aarokiya annaye ..Aalayam ( The rhythm would be similar to Ithu Irava from Neela Malargal)
MSV solo : Anbana Manthare Koodungalen Aarokiya mathavai paadungalen
KJY solo : Kuzhalum yaazhum kuralinil olikka ( A Great Hamsanandhi number)
There 3 were AIR Bahthimalai regulars in 1978-79-80.
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.248)
on: Sun Sep 1 07:52:41 EDT 2002
------Concluding 1976----
73. Gangai nadhioram Raman nadandhaan- Varaprasadam- KJY- R Govardhanam
(Duets 3 page 1)
Film starred Ravichandran, Vijayakumar, Jayachitra and Ashokan among others.
I remember seeing it on TV long back- but the storyline is only hazy in my recollection. Jayachitra loves Vijayakumar, but by a quirky turn of circumstances, marries Ravichandran.
This song featured Ravichandran and Jayachitra.
Another good song from the film is ‘Engirundhu paarthaalum vaanam ondru thaan’-TMS.
R Govardhanam is the immensely talented younger brother of the late R Sudharsanam, the veteran MD. He initially assisted CR Subburaman, and later his brother Sudharsanam. He was the conductor in the orchestra of MSV-TKR during 1960-65, and continued in the same post for MSV till 1970. He has assisted Illayaraja, Vijayabhaskar Chandrabose and Deva, performing the roles of a Conductor and Arranger.
In the meantime, he did the music for the few films that came his way- and all of them had excellent songs: Jaadhagam (1953- in which PBS sang his first tamizh song), Orey Vazhi-1959, Kairasi-1960, Pattanathil Bhoodham-1967, Poovum Pottum-1968, Anjal Petti 520 and Porchilai-both 1969 and Varaprasadham-1976. All the films are remembered to this day for their enchanting songs.
The wonderful relationship that wedlock brings between a man and a woman, and the values it signifies are brought out in meaningful lyrics (Pulamaipithan).
VJ: Gangai nadhioram Raman nadandhaan
Kanninmani Seethai thaanum thodarndhaal
Mella nadandhaal—
Kalyanam ennum deiveega bandham
Kaalangal thorum vaazhgindra sondham
Vilayaattu pillai manal veedu alla
Vidhiyennum kaatril paripovadhalla!
KJY:Mangai aval Seethai mullil nadandhaal
Mannanavan kannil Gangai vazhindhaal
Ullam negizhndhaan
Mannavan kannil Gangai vazhindhaal
Maanikka paavai nee vandha velai
ninaiyaadhadhellaam niraivera kanden
Anbaana deivam, azhiyaatha selvam,
pennendru vandhaal, ennendru solven
KJY: Maniosai kettu manamaalai sootti
uravaana vaazhkkai nalamaaga vendum
VJ: Nadamaadum kovil manavaalan paadham
vazhi kaattum vedham, vizhi sollum bhaavam
KJY: Thirunaalil yetrum anayaadha deepam
VJ: Ananda poojai aaramba velai--
The situational significance and beauty of the lyrics is enhanced tenfold by Govardhanam’s lilting music. The opening giutar notes are spellbinding and what follows is pure enchantment.
The music that follows VJ’s pallavi takes us to another plane altogether! Govardhanam shows his orchestral skills in the interlude that follows ‘Ennendru solven’- Adada,Adhai ennendru solven! VJ and KJY are at their mellifluous best and together with Govardhanam cast a spell upon us till the last humming notes—Excellent!
74. Ninaipathu niraiverum- Ninaipathu Niraiverum- ML Srikanth- ML Srikanth
(More Tamil page 1)
Can anyone shed some light on this film/ starcast/storyline? Did it have Vijayakumar?
Mariadoss Louis Srikanth was a member of MSV’s orchestra for some years. He had earlier composed music for ‘Thalattu’-1969, which had memorable songs like ‘Malligai pooppottu’-TMS-Soolamangalam Rajalakshmi, ‘Vikkillamal kanakkezhithi’-TMS, ‘Varum pothu medaiyil’-Seergazhi Govindarajan. He had also given the humming in the famous PS song ‘Kaadhal Kaadhal endru’-Uththaravindri Ulley Vaa. He had also sung, along with SPB, SJ and LRE, the song ‘Kuliradikkuthey’- Dhikku theriyaatha kaatil. I also remember a MLS-SJ duet ‘Valluvan kuralil’ from the film ‘Kalyana valaiosai’, which doesn’t seem to have come out of the cans.
MLS: Ninaipathu niraiverum nee irundhaal ennodu
VJ: Nadappathu nalamaagum naan irundhaal unnodu
VJ: Iruvarum serndhirundhaal anbodu, indruppol vaazhndhidalaam panbodu
VJ: Oruvarin idhayathil oruvar kudiyirundhaal
Oruvaril iruvaraiyum orudalaai kandidalaam
MLS: Thanimai unakkedhu
VJ: Thaangum idhayam enakkedhu
MLS: Ulagathai marandhu vandhu uravu solli vilayaadu
MLS: Thensuvai thamizhpesi thenmaangu isai paadi
Iruvarum perumayudan inbamellaam kandidalaam
VJ: Kaadhal kavipaadu
MLS: Kaalamellaam uravaadu
VJ: Manathai parikkoduthen, marandhu vaazha mudiyaadhu--
This song figured frequently in Vividh Bharathi in the late 70s. MLS begins with an ‘Aradhana’ type humming. The trumpet notes in the interlude are noteworthy, as the humming in the second interlude. A memorable duet.
75. Ennendru Solvenadi- Ninaipathu Niraiverum- ML Srikanth
‘She stands in front of her mirror
With bright and joyous air,
Smoothes out with a skilful hand
Her waves of golden hair;
But the tell-tale roses on her cheek,
So changing yet so bright,
And downcast, earnest eye betray
New thoughts are hers to-night’
Oh, youth! And the sheer exuberance of it! This young maiden is unabashedly in raptures about her own beauty, and wonders at the charms it holds for the beholders-
Ennendru Solvenadi
Ilamai ezhilodu pirandhenadi
Neeradum en meni nilavodu nigaraana azhagendru solvenadi
Kannipparuvamadi
Minnalaippol vandhu kaatchi alikkuthu, thendralil vandhenadi
En kannin karuvizhi sollum kadhaigalil kaadhal undaaguthu
Pooththu kulunguthu
Pon nirameniyil-
Eththanai vannangal
Minni kidakkathu—
Idhai paarthu magizhndhida kaathu kidakkuthu, eththanai kanngaladi—
Sondham kondaaduthu
Sandhana saarin narumanam poley midhandhu vandhenadi
En maambazha kannathil thengi kidappathu mandhira jaalamadi--!
How winningly does Vani portray the vain thoughts of this narcissist nangai! How coy she sounds in some lines! Her repetition of ‘Kanniparuvamadi’, the sudden change of tempo in ‘Poothu kulunguthu’, the slow sweetness of ‘Idhai paarthu magizhndhida’, the hidden pride in the whispered ‘Ethanai kanngaladi’, the jaalam in ‘jaalamadi’-, the extended ‘Solvenadi’ in the end- the distinct ‘Vani Works’ metamorphose this simple song into a scintillating solo!
76. Naal Nalla Naal- Panakkaara Penn- TMS- V Kumar
(Duets 5)
Film starred Jaishankar and Jayachitra. A fast paced, breezy duet, with the pallavi reminding you, ever so slightly, of the Hindi song ‘Vaadha karlo saajna’.
V Kumar’s favourite singer was always PS, but he did give some memorable songs to LRE, SJ, VJ and his wife K Swarna. He was another MD, who ‘dwelt among the untrodden ways’, but has left behind him songs that to this day ‘smell sweet and blossom in the dust’.
TMS: Naal nalla naal
Un idhazhil ezhuthum iniya kavithai inba then sindhum naal,
Inba then sindhum naal—
VJ: Naal nalla naal
Un varavu mazhaiyil nanayum iravu kandu then sindhum naal,
Inba then sindhum naal
TMS: Vinnukkum mannukkum oru paadhayaam
VJ: Vellithther vannathil varum megamaam
TMS: Paaraalum Rajathi oorgolamaam
VJ: Pakkathil Rajavai naan kaanalaam
TMS: Kandaai kaadhal kondaai mullai chendaai nenjilaada
VJ: Kanna kaadhal manna endru vandhen sindhu paada
VJ: Unnaithaan ennithaan naan vaazhvathu
TMS: Ullaththai allaththaan naal paarththathu
VJ: Aaramba kaalathil naanam varum
TMS: Ananda ragathil bodhai varum
VJ: Vandhaal enna thandhaal enna endre vandha paavai
TMS: Thandhen indru thandhen ennai innum enna thevai?
The highlight is, of course, VJ’s humming at the end of the second charanam, leading back to the pallavi-TMS does the same at the end of the first charanam, but VJ simply sparkles in her turn! Also, don’t miss her prolonging of the second ‘Naal’ in ‘Naal nalla naal’ and the humming by both the singers as their voices fade away in the end.
77. Madhu kinnam yendhungal- Mittai Mummy- V Kumar
This film was initially titled ‘Deivam thandha veedu’- I have seen the record in this name. It starred Jaishankar and KRV, and was directed by lyricist Avinashi Mani, who had earlier directed ‘Aayirathil Oruthi’ and ‘Janaki sabatham’.
The mesmerising TMS-PS duet from this film-‘Thirukkoyil thedi rathi devi vandhaal’ will live on forever, ensuring a place of pride for VK-the ‘Mellisai Maamani’ in the annals of tfm.
I also seem to remember a solo by PS, peddling mittai--
I cannot imagine that this seductive, club-dance number would have featured KRV. However, I have a vague memory of having seen CID Shakunthala in a cabaret costume on the cover of the record. So, in all probability, this song must have featured her.
Madhukkinnam yendhungal
Theeradhu bodhai
Mangai ennum kinnam ingu
Madhuvennum inbam kondathu
Ananda meniye naattiya koodam
Arambamaagume aayiram paadam
Kodaikku ingey thaan kulir kaatru veesum
Koodungal ullathil pudhu vellam odum
Iniyathum ingu thaan
Pudhiyathum ingu thaan—
Madhuvennum inbam kondathu
Aadhikkam seiyungal-naan ungal sondham
Paadhikku paadhi serndhadhu bandham
Meedhiyai sollattum vilayaattu manjam
Vetkathai vittu naan sonnathu konjam
Ini enna solvathu?
Inaivathu nallathu-
Madhuvennum inbam kondathu!
‘Oru Koppayiley en kudiyiruppu, oru kolamayil en thunai iruupu’ sang the bard- here the kolamayil asserts that her charm is more intoxicating than all the contents of the koppai-
-the woman is more winsome than the wine!
And Vani pulls off this enticing number with euphonic élan and ease. Hark at her vampish humming in the middle of the charanams, the slurred rendition of ‘ini enna solvathu’, the seductive lowered ‘Vetkaththai’, the soft ‘Madhukinnam yendhungal’ in the end- we can only fall flat in tipsy surrender!
Neel- this psychedelic song is a must for your ‘Night club’ series!
78. Aandavanilla Ulagamedhu- Oru Oodhaappoo Kann simittugirathu- TMS & Co- V Dakshinamoorthi
OOKS starred Kamal, Vijayakumar and Sujatha. It was based on Pushpa Thangadurai’s
story serialised in Dhinamani Kathir. Produced by S Shankaran and directed by SP Muthuraman. A rather bold story of a youth who gets incarcerated in the process of saving the honour of his beloved. And when he comes out of prison, he finds that she has in the meantime, become another man’s wife. And the emotional upheavals that follow between the corners of the eternal triangle, with a bit of preaching in the end made this an engrossing film.
Other songs in the film include KJY’s soulful ‘Nalla manam vaazhga’ and TK Kala’s ‘Murrukko murrukku’.
V Dakshinamoorthi is a living legend of Malayalam Film Music and the few films he did in Tamil bespeak his calibre. He is reverentially called ‘Swami’ by the entire South-Indian film fraternity. His illustrious students range from NC Vasanthakokilam and P Leela to today’s Bhavathaarini. He is a veritable ocean of musical knowledge. His voice can be heard teaching SJ-‘Sudha Maadhurya’ in Maragadha Veenai-IR’s music. (The record refers to him as ‘Dakshinamoorthi Swamigal’). His memorable works in Tamil include Jeevitha Nowka-1951, Amma-1952, Kanavu-1954, Devi-1968, Jeevanaadi-1970, OOKS-1976, Nanda En Nila-1977, Oru Kovil Iru Deepangal-1979, Jagathguru Aadhi Shankarar-1979 and Bhaktha Hanuman-1981 (the last two being dubbed from Malayalam).
This song has the lovers sitting on the sands of the beach, and the fisher-folk singing in their boats. However, its quite unlike the other songs of this genre- ‘Hum tumhe chaahthey hain aisey’ or even ‘Chithira sevvanam sirikka kanden’, it veers off sharply into a philosophical vein, ruminating on the unpredictable twists and turns which constitute life-
TMS: Aandavanilla ulagamedhu
Aasaigalillaa idhayamedhu
VJ: Nadhiyirundhaal meenirukkum, vidhiyirundhaal serndhirukkum
Kaalam adhan kolam, endro engo—
TMS: Pirakkayile vizhigal kooda thirandhirukkaadhu
Pinborunaal vizhi irandum thoonga vidaathu
VJ: Pirakkayile vizhigal kooda thirandhirukkaadhu
Pinborunaal vizhi irandum thoonga vidaathu
TMS: Aanum pennum mannil vaithaan, aasai ondrai kannil vaithaan
VJ: Kaadhalendru perum ittaan, kattilittaan, thottillittaan
Both:Kaalam, adhan kolam, endro-engo—
TMS: Ullathile vidhai vizhundhu udhayamaavathu
Udalukkulle ver vizhundhu adhigamaavathu
VJ: Ullathile vidhai vizhundhu udhayamaavathu
Udalukkulle ver vizhundhu adhigamaavathu
TMS: Udhirathile poovai kandu, adharathile kaniyai kandu
VJ: Iravillellaam kanavu kandu, inaindhavudan irandum ondru-
Both: Kaalam, adhan kolam, endro-engo—
The chorus voices, with their ‘Elo elo’ and ‘Aylesa’ usher in the salty whiff of the sea, while TMS and VJ sound reflective. The prolonged ‘Kaalam’ and its ‘kolam’ add a sad sheen to the song. The meaning-laden lyrics gain strength in VJ repeating the lines after TMS. The chorus humming in between is a moody touch by the ‘Swami’.
We come to the end of 1976 with this song, with the voices of TMS and VJ fading as the boats sail into the sunset-- We saw VJ sing many memorable songs for the Mellisai Mannar, some exquisite songs for Vijayabhaskar and some superb songs for the other MDs.
I have tried to ensure a sense of completion- but there may be some more forgotten songs by VJ in 1976- for instance, much as I try, I cannot recollect a single song by VJ for SG in this year. What we have covered, however, is her best of the year, and that should suffice, at least for now.
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.170)
on: Sun Sep 1 08:07:42 EDT 2002
Neel- thanks for the new additions- I always thought you should add a lot more to Duets 5. While I have heard the Justice Gopinath song, 'Sattathin Maruppakkam' is new to me. Was the film ever released, I wonder. The song has a late 70ish sound to it.
I know 'Neethiyin Maruppakkam'- it came much later, though.
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