Topic started by G.Suresh (@ 207-172-73-110.s47.as2.man.erols.com) on Wed Apr 1 13:21:53 EST 1998.
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I am G.Suresh for those of you who don't know me, this is my second posting in this forum , it is unfortunate that my earlier one 'Has Arr not copied Narumugaiyae' has to be deleted due to some controversies.
Coming to this latest one , We have lot of singers who resembles SPB in singing, closest being Mano, Arun Mozhi and on one song by Ramesh "Rahde en Radhe.." in Japanil Kalyana Raman, Can we identify here who comes next to SPB in terms of Soft voice and versatality. My choice is Arunmozhi , Awaiting response
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- From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com)
on: Fri Jul 20 16:56:56 EDT 2001
ha ha Donkey King! that was a good one! I sincerely apologize maybe u cud train kumar sanu on vocals and also improve northie film goers intellect to ur level also!
- From: spb_maniac (@ webcacheh06a.cache.pol.co.uk)
on: Fri Jul 20 18:00:03 EDT 2001
sorry northies r not talented, that's why all the southies like SPB & arr sings 4 hindi films, but how many northies sing in tamil, apart from udit the hey fever sufferer
- From: MS (@ ch-1317.che.sc.edu)
on: Fri Jul 20 18:57:46 EDT 2001
Hey dudes..cool it please..It is not a question of jealousy.
Amit - ARR is a southie. U listen to him. dont you ?
I am a southie and I listen to LM a lot.
It is just that SPB has achieved much more than Kumar Sanu has. That is the point people are trying to emphasize. Kumar Sanu has till date not sungs ANY classical number. All his songs are run of the mill ones. Mostly recycled from the old junky tunes. Some examples are:
(1) kyaa tum mujse pyaar karte ho
(2) soldier soldier..dil ko udhaa le gayaaaaaaaa..(Man... I feel as if he is strying to sing while somebody is strangling him )
He ofcourse has his share of good songs too which are overshadowed by the trite numbers he sings most of the time.
good numbers:
(1) saans ki zaroorat
(2) do dil mil rahe
(3) rooth na jaanaa
But the point is that the effort I have to put in to search for the good numbers of Sanu equals the one I need to put in for the bad numbers of SPB.
- From: A.A (@ 203.199.237.89)
on: Sat Jul 21 04:12:18 EDT 2001
SPB...1969La pAAdina mAdhireye avan son Charan...pAdurane.....
Please let us shed this COMPLEX out of us...UDIT has very melodious voice and when he sings for Aamir khan....UDIT ...voice melodu munnal...SPB...verum KAALTHOOSU dhan...
Just like that we are cheating ourselfs by unnecessarily degrading Udit and Kumarsanu...
ALIGAL...9...Madhiri pAdugira Indraiya nam Paadagargalai vida...UDIT,KUMARSANU,SONU,ABHIJEET...evvalavo mel....A.A.
- From: sundar (@ 202.9.162.140)
on: Sat Jul 21 05:48:39 EDT 2001
I am amazed and upset that such grossly different and inferior quality should be compared at all with legends like SPB.
Kumar Sanu thought/thinks he is Kishore kumar's successor and has forgotten to sing thru' his mouth.he is absolutely abysmal.
the much hyped udit is a shade better than Kumar sanu but no comparison at all to any of the good singers in Hfm or tfmi(past singers). let us not insult SPB by comparing with these bunch of nasalists.
HFM has not had really a complete voice after the demise of RAFI, Kishore or a good ranged voice like Mannadey.it is very unfortunate tht HFM has to be content with Udit/Kumar sanu/sukhwinder etc.,
HH is good only in ghazals.he started off well in TFM/Hfm but today he is terrible in higher octaves.Shankar mahadevan has a powerful voice but he is not very consistent. perhaps with some sustained efforts he can render good songs.
Also Charan is no replacement to SPB. He lacks shruti control and no originality.
we will probably have only one or two like Rafi or SPB in a Millenium.
- From: friend (@ webcacheh07a.cache.pol.co.uk)
on: Sat Jul 21 08:48:13 EDT 2001
thanx 4 ur comment sunder, Im can gurantee u that I can sign better than kumar,udit & HH, these hey fever sufferers should not be compared with the legend, DR. S.P.B
- From: mahesh (@ 202.9.182.208)
on: Sat Jul 21 09:20:15 EDT 2001
even the combined voices of rafi,kishore,jesudas,hariharn,uk,srinvias,etc cannot match that of spb who is the most versatile genius in the history of indian film music with a voice that has no paralles
- From: CF (@ 203.197.141.187)
on: Sat Jul 21 12:31:49 EDT 2001
I am glad to see that there so many SPB fans like me.
- From: fan (@ webcacheh07a.cache.pol.co.uk)
on: Sat Jul 21 18:03:33 EDT 2001
dr. spb himself!!!
- From: Vakees (@ webcacheh08a.cache.pol.co.uk)
on: Sun Jul 22 04:18:21 EDT 2001
I am just so upset 2 c people who do not have any sense in music(A.A) talks of junk singers like Udit, Hariharan, Shanker mahadevan, Sukvinder singh. these nasalist only survive in music world cos of ARR, he is the one who introduced these nasalist to TFM. although ARR introduce some good singers like Unni Krishnan, Unni menon, SPB.Pallavi, Anuradha Sriram, Sujatha.
Dr. SPB is the one & only intermes of :
1. Most beautiful voice, that is so sweet
2. most divine voice
3. ability to modulate extremly well
4. Ability to sing from rock to classical without any difficulties
5. his voice is so sweet when he talks as well
6. He talks 4 so many actors, if the films are dubbed in other languages (Kamal, Mohan)
7. Famous Music director
I do not know if any body realises the fact that SPB has directed for 25 films!!!,(Sigaram, Thodikum karangal) that is an awful lot 4 a singer , out of all 25 he directed they were all super hit.
I know for fact that S. Janaki directed for one film in tamil.
Questions:
1) How many films did M.rafi direct music for?
2) How many films did KJY direct music for?
3) how many films did TMS direct music for?
4) how many films did hariharan direct music 4?
5) how many films did lata or Kishor kumar direct for?
I need answers !!!
also that AA idiot says that "the nasalist Udit's khaal thoosu SPB, when it comes 2 melody", that just shows how stupid & idiotic he is when it comes to music!!!.
I can not imagine IFM without SPB, it would stink like shit!!
SPB is the lord of IFM!!!
- From: a.a (@ bay-65.pppmad.vsnl.net.in)
on: Sun Jul 22 04:30:48 EDT 2001
Dai Vakees....UDIT...is nasalist ah???Kaadhu Sevida...Irefer to UDIT's Hindi...numbers...Udit is youthful,uniqe and original...
Ghantasala...style il vandha...SPB...mAdhiri...MANO,SPB.Charan..aL..pAda mudiyum...UDIT...mAdhri..original,cheerful,youthful,Voice....indraikku Thedhiyil...Yaarukkum...Illai...A.A.
- From: Music_fan (@ webcacheh08a.cache.pol.co.uk)
on: Sun Jul 22 04:48:43 EDT 2001
antha A.A madaiyan ingaiyum vanthutan:
G.suresh pls use some sort of filter to filter these sort of junk like A.A, it is an insult to this web page
- From: LV (@ 203.197.80.66)
on: Mon Jul 23 03:59:59 EDT 2001
MS:
About Kumar Sanu I agree 100% with u. Please stop discussing Sanu. We are discussing singers here and not "brayers" :-))) Amit I think is same as IMF??????????????
The next in line wrt SPB is IMVHO Hariharan.
- From: Annamalai (@ webcacheh06a.cache.pol.co.uk)
on: Mon Jul 23 15:55:28 EDT 2001
LV;
in ur dream mate, hariharan SPB inda khall thoosu friend, not even 0.01% SPB, although I agree that hariharan is a well known nasalist!!!,
Next to SPB, can only be his son, but these MD idiots's must give him a chance & they will know abour SPB charan after 5 years!!!
- From: Amit (@ 216.141.126.194)
on: Mon Jul 23 17:58:53 EDT 2001
@webcache01a.cache.pol.co.uk - first pick up the courage to use a regular ID and then come to discuss music. Agreed Kumar Sanu is not in the league of SPB right now but that is because of the time SPB has spent in the industry. And unfortunately most of the stuff that is popular is usually worthless trash composed for him. Have you listened to KS in Maya Memsaab? Kumar Sanu has DARD in his voice and he has excellent vibratto. TFM has always gravitated towards male singers of less than manly voices. Witness TMS,UK and even SPB at times. HFM on the other hand always goes for MANLY voices.
- From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com) on: Mon Jul 23 18:19:50 EDT 2001
//"? Kumar Sanu has DARD in his voice and he has excellent vibratto. "//
what crap is this whats DARD and vibratto! dei english'la pesuda...
//"HFM on the other hand always goes for MANLY voices."//
like saif ali khan, salman khan, r manliest guys to sing to..
Maya mehmsaab is the biggest junk i have seen on the planet. anyway u seem intent on talking nonsense.
u want people to notice u thats why u r talking trash.! best if u r ignored like kumar sanu!
as i told u b4. HFM with its infinite lack of wisdom will welcome any such inanities that u vomit. so keep all ur vaccous opinions in hfm and stop boring everyone here.
I dont think that people like u should be accirded the common decency given to other forumers
dei chappatti ..veliya poda... unnoda "acha gaana haina"vellam evanavathu pan pottikittu mutta payal irupaan avankitta vechukko inga vanthu lollu pannathe
- From: Father Donkey (@ oneway.convex.com) on: Mon Jul 23 18:21:48 EDT 2001
Please dont trash about my son kumar sanu! his nose was blocked when u was eating paper from koovam dust bin. thats why he sounds so weird!
- From: Mother Donkey! (@ oneway.convex.com) on: Mon Jul 23 18:24:20 EDT 2001
kumar sanu! beta kahan ho tum! chalo hum bombay slums me paper kaane jayenge! SPB bhagavan ko prathana karna na boolna!(pray to god SPB). SPB will put pichai for u my son!
- From: bm (@ spider-wo024.proxy.aol.com) on: Mon Jul 23 20:52:05 EDT 2001
"Kumar sanu has dard in his voice "..ha ha ha ...he sure leaves a dard in our ears while he sings...even i doubt this Amit is an IMF incarnate ...
Honestly guys..i have heard a couple of blind singers in the Madras electric trains sing better than this Kumar sanu...if anyone listens to the junk he sings for Nadeem shravan and Anumalik they will sure know what not to listen again..ever in life...
- From: pongi ezhu tamizhA (@ sc-66-27-204-54.socal.rr.com) on: Mon Jul 23 23:57:36 EDT 2001
Amit kanna. Mukesh had a very manly voice? Sirkazhi had a very effeminate voice? enna mAn pEtharEy? kAdhula enna goin yA? pAttunA ennanu theriyuma? Kumar Sanu voicela "dard", hmm? avan pAdinA ulagamEy dard. adhu oru koralA? idhukku Pran voicEy thEvala.
vandhuttAnunga pa edhO discuss panna. I suppose HFM and its singers are not worth discussing. So they come to TFM and try to trash all our musicians.
Comrades, your good male playback ended with Kishore. Your good female playbacks will end with the Mangeshkar sisters. Your good composer line ended with Panchamda. If you guys want to listen to good music nowadays, your only option is to listen to the music of the south or a south Indian music composer like ARR. But knowing you guys, all that you will listen to will be the likes of Annu Malik. AndavA!! ivanungaLa needhAn kAppatranum.
- From: LV (@ 203.197.82.173) on: Tue Jul 24 01:44:02 EDT 2001
dear amit khanna:
Kumar S does not have dard AT ALL. He causes "dard" to his listeners though :-)))
And dont quote Maya Memsaab, please. Thats probably Hridaynath's most pedestrian album. I wish he had NOT done that, considering his high level of talent. But atleast know which examples to quote.
PLEASE STOP INSULTING EVERYONE HERE BY COMPARING A THIRD CLASS KUMAR SAANU TO THE GREAT SPB
- From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com) on: Mon Jul 23 18:19:50 EDT 2001
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