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- From: Veera (@ 202.54.63.132)
on: Tue Nov 7 08:47:35 EST 2000
IR has composed lot of songs in 'Maya malava gowlai'
Some are
masaru ponne varuga-devar magan
kuyila pudicchu-chinna thambi
kathal kavithaigal paditthidum neram-kobura vasalile
Am i correct.tell some more
- From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185)
on: Tue Nov 7 16:08:09 EST 2000
Rasika ranjani:
A rare raga. TO my knowledge IR has 3 songs in it. ANd these seem to be the only songs in this ragam.
neelakkuyile from magudi:
http://members.tripod.com/ilayaraaja/magudi.ram
amuthE thamize azagiya from kovilpuraa:
http://members.nbci.com/rgireesan/926473588/amudhe.ram
ethilum ingu iruppaan from bhaarathi:
http://padmalekha.com/NerinaHera/Songs/Tamil2/Barathi/EthilumI.ram
All the above songs are beutifully composed.
The following song seems to be in malayamaarutham. It seems to be a close cousing of raika ranjani. I think malayamaarutham sans "ni" is rasika ranajani.
http://members.xoom.com/jeethu/rams/thendralennai.ram
- From: Vidhya (@ 24.128.190.214)
on: Tue Nov 7 21:43:32 EST 2000
one more..
Oomai nenjin sondham
- From: Vidhya (@ 24.128.190.214)
on: Tue Nov 7 21:52:26 EST 2000
Rasika ranjani
s r1 g3 p d2 s; s d2 p g3 r1 s
Malayamaarudham
sa ri1 ga3 pa dha2 ni1 sa; sa ni1 dha2 pa ga3 ri1 sa
(ni1 as in karaharapriya)
- From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185)
on: Wed Nov 8 13:29:58 EST 2000
Coming to Malaya maarudham:
To my knowledge there a few song in malayamaarudham in TFM.
(1) kaNmani nee vara kaaththirunthen
The first of its kind in a limited number of songs that IR has composed in this ragam. The flute pieces are beautiful.
http://members.xoom.com/jeethu/rams/kanmani.ram
(2) oomai nenjinil sontham
The rhythm of this song is probably the only one of its kind in the TFM.
(3) thendral ennai muththamittathu
http://members.xoom.com/jeethu/rams/thendralennai.ram
IT was mentioned above. Hss a great guitar usage.
Other than these songs, in MFM there ar many. the song I am giving below has a speciality. It has been "inspired" from "aasai athigam vechchu". But the tune is set in malayamaarutham ( I guess)
http://www.jyothish.com/songs/maanam-theli1.ram
- From: RR (@ 192.122.134.138)
on: Wed Nov 8 21:29:19 EST 2000
I believe this is one of the best filmy malayamarutham (telugu)
http://64.81.35.203/songs/Sruthilayalu_Innirasula.ram
- From: Ramaswamy Gireesan (@ )
on: Thu Nov 9 08:49:19 EST 2000
Vijay,
do you have any particular songs in mind? If you are referring to some songs that are suddenly missing from the classical IR page, I have just moved them to some other page, that is all. Otherwise I don't remove any songs from my pages.
Regards
G.Ramaswamy
- From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185)
on: Thu Nov 9 13:45:15 EST 2000
Reethi Gowlai:
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Another ragam which has been sparingly used in the TFM. Most of the compositions have come from IR. Any further appreciation may seem like adulation and hence I shall resort to just a list of songs and minimal description.
The raga's aarohanam itself sounds like a song:
s g r g m n p m n n s
and this makes the raga sound a bit repetitive in all the songs we have heard.
(1) Chinnak kaNNan azaikkiraan
The first of its kind in TFM. Sung individually by BMK and SJ. the SJ's version is the pathos version. Has screeching violins in SJ's version. BMK's version is more adorable.
(2) thalaiyaik kuniyum thaamariyE:
A beautiful love duet sung by SPB and another lady singer.
http://members.nbci.com/rgireesan/926473588/thalayai.ram
(3) Raaman kathai kELungaL:
Set in the mood of kathaakaalekshEbam. This song is wonder from SPB with his expressiveness ebing unmatchable. From the film - chippikkuL muththu. only the telugu version coudl be linked to:
http://64.81.35.203/songs/Swathimuthyam_Rama.ram
(4) Meettaatha oru veenai:
Hariharan and Mahalakshmi. It is rumoured that HH took 7 or more hrs to record the song. the thaalam is a 5 beat mode and the interludes are just beautiful. This is probably the only song which seems to sound different form other songs in the same raga.
http://members.tripod.com/~ilayaraaja/poonthot.ram
(5) azagaana raakshasiye:
Once again SPB but the ecomposer is ARR. A beautiful song but (3) is the best rendition by SPB.
Groping mindlessly in the semiclassical sections of some MFM pages, I stumbled yesterday on two songs yesterday set in the same ragam:
(1) PranathOsmi Guruvaayupureesam - MD - Sharath - Film - Sindhoora Rekha - Singer - KJY:
All the songs in this film are great. In fact this song is but lack lustre, though is definitely not entirely dry.
http://www.jyothish.com/songs/pranathosmi1.ram
(2) Maamava Maadhava - MD - Bombay Ravi - Film - Five star hospital - Singer - KJY
Has some swaras at the end.
http://www.jyothish.com/songs/maamava1.ram
- From: Ramaswamy Gireesan (@ 194.59.176.11)
on: Fri Nov 10 12:45:36 EST 2000
MS,
there is another notation for Reethigowlai's ascending and descending scales :
s g2 r2 g2 m1 n2 d2 m1 n2 n2 S ; S n2 d2 m1 g2 m1 p m1 g2 r2 s
Thanks for the links you have provided for the 2 mal. songs. Frankly, I think KJY has spoiled the 2nd song. The first one was a lot better.
Regards
G.Ramaswamy
- From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185)
on: Fri Nov 10 14:12:03 EST 2000
RG:
I was wrong in the aarohanam. IT was a typo. sorry.
RR seems to have been not so impressed with the first but ok with the second :-) The excitement I had about these two songs is that I stumbled on them the same day. This is not a common ragam in both tfm and mfm.
What I am trying here is to provide give a gist of some songs set in same raga wit some examples from other languages too. thx for stopping by.
- From: SL (@ 206.111.77.14)
on: Fri Nov 10 14:44:04 EST 2000
MS, thankx for the links for the mallu numbers. Sharath is certainly a good composer as often mentioned by Srinivas. Good singing by KJY
- From: Balasubramaniam (@ 203.197.178.249)
on: Sat Nov 11 01:51:48 EST 2000
hey...one more song is churidar anindhu vandha swargame from the tfm poovellaam kaettupaar...
correct me if i'm wrong...
and i would like to know what's the ragam of the song vennilave vennilave from minsara kanavu...
and one more song kanavaa illai kaatraa...from the movie ratchagan
thanks and happy listening
- From: Balasubramaniam (@ 203.197.178.249)
on: Sat Nov 11 01:51:58 EST 2000
hey...one more song is churidar anindhu vandha swargame from the tfm poovellaam kaettupaar...
correct me if i'm wrong...
and i would like to know what's the ragam of the song vennilave vennilave from minsara kanavu...
and one more song kanavaa illai kaatraa...from the movie ratchagan
thanks and happy listening
- From: Thiraj Kumar (@ 203.106.175.230)
on: Sun Nov 12 20:40:39 EST 2000
Hi guys & gals,
Just wanted to ask u people here.Is there any 90's song in kalyani?It would be nice if i can have the lyrics with it too.
- From: Ichi (@ 202.144.64.4)
on: Sun Nov 12 22:56:09 EST 2000
Hi Thiraj,
There are so many !!
U have Sundari Kannal Oru Seidhi ( Thalapathy), Amma Enrazhaikkadha (Mannan) , Nirpadhuve (Bharathi), etc
Bye
- From: sindhuja (@ 203.197.182.47)
on: Mon Nov 13 00:20:48 EST 2000
Balasubramanyam,
The song in ratchakan is in the raagam hemavati(58)with touches of hameer kalyani.
Vennilave Vennilave(MK)is in keeravani -- parts of it also resemble kaapi(when G3 creeps in).
- From: haris (@ 205.227.43.12)
on: Mon Nov 13 18:58:58 EST 2000
what's the raga of the song 'nee partha parvaikkoru nanri' from hey ram. i tried to play it in the KB and based on the second part of the swara sequence, it should be one ( or a janya ) of the following... charukesi, ragavardhini, vagulabaranam.
what's the raga of the song 'oru ganam oru yugamAga' from nadodi thenral... i think 'its a janya of dheera sankarabaranam.
Is there any song in the raga mandhari?? i think this raga is too good.
- From: tom (@ 205.227.43.15)
on: Mon Nov 13 20:20:04 EST 2000
Theendai, mei theendai
un viral vandhu ennai theendiyadho..
above song is in 'Sriraagam' am I right?
- From: Kamini (@ 208.50.99.156)
on: Mon Nov 13 21:29:25 EST 2000
Tom,
Theendai songs reminds Thiagaraja swami's "Enthro Mahanu Bavu" which is in Sriragam
- From: Ichi (@ 202.144.64.4)
on: Mon Nov 13 22:00:22 EST 2000
Hi haris,
I think Nee paartha paarvaikkoru is in Nata Bhairavi, though I may have messed up a couple of swaras on my Kbd.
- From: Ichi (@ 202.144.64.4)
on: Mon Nov 13 22:01:42 EST 2000
BTW, I have played only the pallavi !
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