Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
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- From: Srikanth (@ vdslppp102.sttl.uswest.net)
on: Tue Dec 7 21:03:02 EST 1999
Guys,
some questions;
What is the ragam for
Nee enena solnalum kavithai - netru indrru nalai
Amanai Azaithu vedum kanmanai - avan oru aritheeram
Suga ragame --- kani rasi
- From: RR (@ 192.122.134.249)
on: Tue Dec 7 23:08:33 EST 1999
Srikanth:
nee ennenna - bageshri
ammaanai - dharmavathi
suga raagame - Sri/Mani rangu ??
- From: srikanth (@ vdslppp102.sttl.uswest.net)
on: Tue Dec 7 23:44:07 EST 1999
first 2 are bulls eye
3rd one -- try again
- From: srikanth (@ 216.32.18.74)
on: Wed Dec 8 14:53:13 EST 1999
since there is no ans for more than 5 hrs
--- it is Devamanohari
- From: Pae. (@ global23.citicorp.com)
on: Wed Dec 8 16:30:35 EST 1999
Varaha Nadhikaraiyoram from Sangamam set to Which raaga(s) ?
- From: kuhan (@ wmu-54-36.tm.net.my)
on: Fri Dec 10 03:04:15 EST 1999
hi i'm kuhan i want to know what raga ARR used for song sakie in intimandarai and seritana in talam.
plz tell me soon!
- From: kuhan (@ wmu-54-36.tm.net.my)
on: Fri Dec 10 03:07:56 EST 1999
Varaha Nadhikaraiyoram raga i think is hindustani rag (yaman kalyan)
- From: srikanth (@ vdslppp102.sttl.uswest.net)
on: Fri Dec 10 10:19:37 EST 1999
Hi,
I have tried another raga with western scores,
Charukesi....
http://www.mp3.com/jsri
- From: kamini (@ dyn1-tnt10-110.detroit.mi.ameritech.net)
on: Fri Dec 10 16:30:16 EST 1999
What is the equivalent raga for Yaman Kalyan in Carnatic Music ? Is it Yamuna Kalyani
- From: srikanth (@ 216.32.18.74)
on: Fri Dec 10 18:14:08 EST 1999
yes
- From: Unni (@ user153177.dial.netline.net.uk)
on: Sat Dec 11 09:48:52 EST 1999
Kamini, Not quite. Yamuna Kalyani has a slightly different flavour to it, there is 1 Krithi by Dikshitar in Yamuna Kalyani, I will check it's name for you - It has a very Carnatic Sound to it. Yeman Kalyani is a Raga which is used in both Hindustani and Carnatic, but in the Carnatic circle, used more for Bajans and Light pieces, such as Kuyile Unnai Kanandha Kodi Namaskaram, Poojyaaya Raagavendhraaya..... e.t.c...Thyagaraja also has a Sampradhaya Krithi in this Raga, this being Haridha Sulu Vedale Moochutta Gani Aanandha Maayo Dhayalo.....
Pae: I would say that varaga Nadhikarai Oram is a cross b/w Hindustan Behag and Yaman Kalyan.
Srikanth, nice job on Charukesi, will listen more and give proper feedback. My my, you are indeed very talented :)
Kuhan, Sakiye is in Kamas, with touches of the Mela Harikamboji entering it. Sarithaana is also sounding like Yaman Kalyani, with some touches of Sivaranjani.
- From: srikanth (@ vdslppp102.sttl.uswest.net)
on: Sat Dec 11 11:21:44 EST 1999
Unni -- thanks for the feed back man,
btw; I think Yumuna kalyani and Yemen kalyan or similar, there may be slight variation -- but as far as film music is concerned, they sound alike.
anyway you have put some good notes on the issue, makes me think.
thanks.
- From: Basant? (@ spider-ti082.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sun Dec 12 21:12:21 EST 1999
thaesulaavudhae thaen malaraalae' sung by Ghantasala & PS in Manalane Mangaiyin Bhagiyam--is that pure Basant? If not, where does it deviate? TIA.
- From: thathuvavaathi (@ 1cust101.tnt11.hou3.da.uu.net)
on: Mon Dec 13 01:17:33 EST 1999
There is a new program in Vijay-TV, called "Paarambaryaththai nOkki" compered by 'Sudha Raghunathan'.
In this program she, with another lady, takes a raagaa and gives a classical composition in it performed by some popular artist followed by the Tamil Film songs set in the same raga.
The program I saw (from the tape I got from back home), probably recorded on the day of DheepaavaLi contained the following...
Raagam: Dharmavathy
------
They showed,
=> OdOdi vandhEn kaNNaa - sung by Unni Krishnan
and then the following film songs,
- kaadhal kaadhal enRu pEsi
(Film: uththaravinRi uLLE vaa)
- ammaanai azhagu migum ponmaanai
(Film: avaL oru sariththiram)
- konji konji alaigaL Oda
(Film: veeraa)
- ottagaththa kattikkO gettiyaaga ottikkO
(Film: Gentleman)
Thought I would share it with you guys !!
- From: Unni (@ infocache.netline.net.uk)
on: Tue Dec 14 09:41:31 EST 1999
Srikanth, your Charukesi is really excellent, I took a closer listen to it and I can really feel the Raga. This sort of exposition will really give young learners a great start to 'catching' Ragas. Very well done, and please keep it up, I'd love to hear more like this from you :)
- From: Unni (@ user154122.dial.netline.net.uk)
on: Thu Dec 16 17:20:26 EST 1999
Srikanth, just remembered the Dikshithar Krithi in Yamuna Kalyani, it's Jambhupadhe.
The Arohanam/Avarohanam of Yeman is
NRGMDNRS SNDPMGRNRS
I will try and get the Aa/A of Yamuna. By the way, I think Mishra Yeman is
SRGM(Prathi)PDNS Kalyani
SNDPM(Suddha)GRS Sankarabarnam
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.139)
on: Thu Dec 16 19:17:26 EST 1999
Unni,
is 'kavidhai kelungal' from punnagai mannan in pure Jog?
also I find 'Oh Oh Oh kaalai kuyilgale' from unnai vaazhthi paadugiren to have Jog-like notes. can u confirm?
- From: haris (@ cdrpb103-33.splitrock.net)
on: Fri Dec 17 13:13:07 EST 1999
hi Basant? (??!!)
the song thEsulAvudhE thEn malarAlE... is i think in hamsAnandhi..
- From: RR (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg)
on: Fri Dec 17 21:12:03 EST 1999
haris: it's basanth indeed.
- From: Anand K (@ spider-ti063.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sun Dec 19 07:00:11 EST 1999
on the subject of yamuna kalyani and kalyani, i thought that the former has both madhyamams, and of course the pidis are very different ..
amateur anand
- From: srikanth (@ vdslppp102.sttl.uswest.net)
on: Sun Dec 19 15:26:24 EST 1999
Hi,
Carnatic channel updated with 2 more rare concerts of Madurai Mani Iyer AND MS.
- From: srikanth (@ 216.32.18.74)
on: Tue Dec 21 19:21:51 EST 1999
Hi,
I have another track in mp3.com, please check it.
www.mp3.com/jsri
- From: kuhan (@ bat-91-35.tm.net.my)
on: Wed Dec 22 21:34:23 EST 1999
hii, can i know what raga arr used for the velimalarle in jodi??? is it hinduatani.
is it upukaruadu in the qawali????
- From: MSK (@ marimuth-nt.qualcomm.com)
on: Tue Dec 28 10:37:38 EST 1999
Hi folks,
I am interested in knowing TFM/telugu/Malayalam songs set in Desh Ragam ..especially in 1980 -1990 period ( by IR/MSV )
Any clues. Thanks.
Cheers
MSK
- From: Srikanth (@ 216.32.18.74)
on: Tue Dec 28 13:34:10 EST 1999
MSK:
China kane chitra Kanne kelamma...by MSV.
Many rahman songs has desh (and ofcouse Kapi) at regular intervals.
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.246)
on: Tue Dec 28 13:52:24 EST 1999
srikanth,
have u tried playing the notes of 'kavidhai kelungal' from punnagai mannan in your Kboard? sometime back i had asked about the raga but did not geta reply. I wanted to know if it was set in pure Jog or naatai. thanx.
- From: Vasu (@ s03.austin.ibm.com)
on: Tue Dec 28 14:16:37 EST 1999
MSK:
Nee oru kaadal sangeedam (nayagan) sounds like desh.
- From: Radhai (@ h328c.s86b1.baynetworks.com)
on: Tue Dec 28 16:06:23 EST 1999
Vasu,
I thought Nee oru kaadhal ... was Amritha varshini.
-Radhai
- From: Srikanth (@ 216.32.18.74)
on: Tue Dec 28 17:31:33 EST 1999
Kavithai kelugal is in Thilang.
- From: srikanth (@ 216.32.18.74)
on: Tue Dec 28 17:34:09 EST 1999
Nee oru kaadal sangeedam --- is in Yemen Kalyani ...there is a old ...Irvun nilavum malartume...
- From: srikanth (@ 216.32.18.74)
on: Tue Dec 28 17:50:56 EST 1999
vijay:did you hear my new scores in mp3,
one in bhagyasri/abogi/sriranjani and one in revathi...if not check it out here
http://www.mp3.com/jsri
tell me how it sounds.
- From: RR (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg)
on: Tue Dec 28 21:09:57 EST 1999
MSK: 'vizhiyil puthu kavithai padithen' is also desh.
srikanth: The classical funk lacks in melody (more like a keyboard exercise) compared to your Hamsanandhi (which i liked a lot). What is a funk BTW?
I'll now go & listen to your revathi.
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.28.244)
on: Wed Dec 29 00:28:42 EST 1999
Srikanth,
Both pieces were pleasant to hear.
Revathi piece was a beatsy number. It is a novel attempt. U have used a raaga like revathi which is usually used in 'serious' situations in films for a pop like number. In that aspect, it reminded me of 'kannum kannum kollaiadithaal' from thiruda thiruda where sivaranjani was used in a pop type song. in fact, revathi has not been used that much in films and so it was a bit refreshing to hear after some time.
the classical funk did not actually sound like a raagamaaligai to me as the raagas(especially abogi and sriranjani) are not very different from each other. it was just a breezy number with a hummable opening line tune.
- From: srikanth (@ wdslppp129.sttl.uswest.net)
on: Wed Dec 29 01:02:26 EST 1999
funk is a western musical style. Basically, I tried to use the raaga in a funk based score, more importance is given to beat, (slap)bass and counter points scores
- From: srikanth (@ wdslppp129.sttl.uswest.net)
on: Wed Dec 29 01:06:27 EST 1999
thanks for the feedback guys, makes me work more...on new scores...
- From: kamini (@ dialup-166.90.235.152.detroit1.level3.net)
on: Thu Dec 30 18:18:39 EST 1999
Some more to Desh count
Androru naal idhey nilavil(some old movie)
kanavey kalayaadhey(Kannedhirey thondrinaal)
mudhal murai ( Sangamam -- Not sure, pl enlighten me)
- From: Vasu (@ s02.austin.ibm.com)
on: Sat Jan 1 10:08:29 EST 2000
does the song "un udhattora sivappa anda marudhani" have shades of kaanada/darbari kaanada in it? esp the flute interlude sounds like kaanada. thx.
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