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Copied songs in TFM

Topic started by SRIKANTH (@ 95.minneapolis-07.mn.dial-access.att.net) on Fri Jan 9 19:18:56 EST 1998.
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• From: kurumbu (@ hlr-13-49.tm.net.my) on: Sat Sep 11 04:08:36 EDT 1999
  
  ARR is too smart to lift an entire number;))
  ????????????????????
  
  
• From: Bharathi (@ 203.197.128.62) on: Sat Sep 11 14:03:57 EDT 1999
  
  Hello !
  yArappA athu...en pErai pOttu ezuthaRathu ?
  intha topic namakku alvA AchE !
  
  deva's list :
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  1. chillena (rasigan) - dil ke jharokon (brahmachari)
  
  2. manase manase (nenjinile) - tu hi tu (kabhi na kabhi)
  
  3. bharathikku kaNNammA (priyamudan) - rang bare baadal (chandini)
  
  4. salomiya - saiyoni (junoon)
  
  5. aval varuvala (nErukku nEr) - awara hoon (awara)
  
  ARR's list :
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  1. chandiranai thottathu - pari hoon main (pari)
  
  2. telephone mani pol (indian) - all that she wants (album maRanthu pOchu)
  
  3. dil se re (dil se) - mera piya ghar (album by fateh ali khan)
  
  4. margazhi poove (may maatham) - suprabaatham
  
  5. enna vilai azhage (kathalar dhinam) - thangga pathakkaththin mele (EthO pazhaiya padam)
  
  6. dandiya (kathalar dhinam) pAttOda charaNamum,
  suththi suththi (padaiyappa) charaNamum, nila kaykirathu pAttula "katru veesum" ellaam ore tune.
  
  IR's list :
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  ethuvum theriyalai. therinjavangga anuppunggaLEn.
  
  -Bharathi
  
  
• From: Bharathi (@ 203.197.128.62) on: Sat Sep 11 14:20:52 EDT 1999
  
  chandy aNNA,
  inggEyum vanthuttEn !!!
  
  ethai vachu nIngga ellAm annu malik-ai copy cat-nu
  solRIngga ? HFM-la yAru copy adikkalai, annu-vai vida athigamA ?
  
  hope you all know anand-milind.
  their list :
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  1. koyal si teri boli (beta) - kondai seval (engga chinna rasa)
  2. tap tap tapori (bhaagi) - raja rajathi (agni natchathiram)
  3. chandini raat hai (bhaagi) - keladi kanmani (puthu puthu arththanggal)
  4. tu tu tu (bol radha bol) - rakkamma (thalapathi)
  5. o piya piya (dil) - o priya priya (idayathai thirudathe)
  even no.1 music directors like jatin-lalit, nadeem-shravan have also copied some good songs.
  So, if you say "copy cat", that includes not only annu but also all the MDs in HFI, right ?
  
  anbu thanggai(!?)
  Bharathi.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.25.79) on: Sun Sep 12 00:17:53 EDT 1999
  
  Yarappa adhu Bharathi,
  chumma 2 words similiara irundha adhu copy aagathu. maargazhi poove copy from suprabhatham...?? erkanave ARR vs IR inge balama poikittirukku, ippo paarthu indha maathiri ellam post pannatheenga;))
  
  
• From: Dev Mannemela (@ prxy-01.softimage.com) on: Fri Oct 1 18:06:23 EDT 1999
  
  If you are curious to listen to the
  original version (even if it's a short clip)
  of Deva's 'Thilothama' song from Aasai,
  try the link below...
  
  http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=485524938/pagename=/share/ensotrack2.html/UPC=1635164022/disc=01/track=05/source=ENSO
  
  
• From: Dev Mannemela (@ prxy-01.softimage.com) on: Fri Oct 1 18:09:12 EDT 1999
  
  Oops.. the above link doesn't work..
  
  Try the one below..
  Go down to song No.5 ( Galbi )
  
  http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=503343346/pagename=/RP/BUYERS_GUIDE/bg.p1.html/view=albums/guide=worldstart/ddcn=SD-1564+64002+2
  
  
• From: Innonnum...! (@ host004.databean.com) on: Tue Oct 5 20:31:11 EDT 1999
  
  First song in that album is 'Maname Thigaikkadhe'.
  
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112) on: Fri Oct 8 15:39:45 EDT 1999
  
  Just an observation:
  
  "Oru naal oru pozuthu" from anthimandhrai , "uyirum neeye" from pavithra and "paal vadiyum mugam ninaindhu ninaindhu manam paravasa migavaaguthE " strongly resemble each other very much in atleast the opening lines. May be ARR is very much obssessed with the last song.
  
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 202.54.125.234) on: Sat Oct 9 06:25:36 EDT 1999
  
  Dev,
  
  Thanks for pointing out yet another copy of Deva. Until now I tought 'Thilothama' was an original, with some middle-eastern flavour. Looks like Deva doesn't like 'artificially flavoured' stuff. He believes in delivering 100% pure, real music! So, what if he is just a 'distributor'?
  ;)
  BTW, Maname Thigaikathe? I don't get it. Doesn't sound familiar at all. Is it the Maname Thigaikaathe Vizhiye nanayadhe, Vaazhkaipaathaiyil Medu Pallangal" song you are referring to?
  
  Bharati,
  
  I don't agree with you about the following songs:
  1. chandiranai thottathu - pari hoon main (pari)
  3. dil se re (dil se) - mera piya ghar (album by fateh ali khan)
  4. margazhi poove (may maatham) - suprabaatham
  You can't term them as copy at all. Margazhippoove uses the obvious tune of the first phrases of Suprabhatam in the flute piece. I think it is just to give the feel of 'morning'. Dil Se Re and Piya Ghar Aana? Amazing comparison!!!
  
  I agree with the fact that some of his songs in Kaadhalar Dhinam have a lot of lines resembling MSV hits, like th ones you have pointed out, I have another addition:
  
  Roja Roja fisrt few lines are exactly the same as Ennai Vittaal Yaarumillai, Kanmaniye Un Kay ANaikka.
  It is also quite similar to the 'Sandhangal Neeyaanal, Sangeetam Naanaven' line from the 'Sippiyirukkudu' song from 'Varumayin Niram Sigappu'. The rhythm is different though.
  
  Neels
  
  
• From: Devadhi Deva (@ bellatrix.anonymizer.com) on: Sat Oct 9 12:19:48 EDT 1999
  
  Are you guys joking?? Putting a 30 seconds clip and calling Deva a copy cat??? Please go to the forests of Ooty, record a song of the Todas and put it here and call Ilayaraaja's Raman Aandaalum Ravanan Aandalum song as copy. Play his, Darling...Darling..song and call that as copy. Even Rahman copied Markali Poove from Suprabatham....Call that as copy....
  
  You guys are too quick to accuse our Thenisai Thendral Deva alone when he does something like that. In Suriyan, he gave a good song 18 vayasu ilamottu manasu....Why are you guys calling that as a copy??? If ARR's copy can be justified, as to signify a mystified morning......why can't Deva??
  
  One cannot expect more from Deva chauvinists. Today, the world spins not according to the chauvinists, but according to the majority. And the cassette sales prove that Deva is the leading MD of TFM.
  
  Devadhi Deva
  
  
• From: Genius (@ srirama.intecom.com) on: Sat Oct 9 18:07:22 EDT 1999
  
  hey bellatrix@anonymyzir aka Devathai Deva..
  "cassette sales prove that Deva is the leading MD of TFM"..
  good joke..
  maybe its true, if u are living in some godforsaken country in this world, where there is no other ARR fan or IR fan, and if u buy his latest album, defly Deva prooves to the best MD according to the sales figures..
  1 against 0 of others.. i understand !!
  ROFL.hee hee!!!
  
  
• From: eden (@ 202.54.71.149) on: Mon Oct 11 05:22:08 EDT 1999
  
  DD!
  `Deva chauvinists'??? Who's that? Is it not yourself one among them? (I'm just drawing an analogy from `male chauvinists'!)
  
  
• From: Devathi Deva (@ anon-spica.free.anonymizer.com) on: Mon Oct 11 18:02:06 EDT 1999
  
  eden:
  
  I aplogize sir. It should have been, 'ARR & IR Chauvinists' and not 'Deva Chauvinists'. Or it could have been, 'Deva Baiters' instead.
  
  Thanks for pulling me up, sir.
  
  
• From: Diwakar (@ 206.175.177.168) on: Fri Oct 15 20:50:39 EDT 1999
  
  Muthal muthalil parthen kaadal vanthathu (?MD) :
  
  eeyadichan copy of Sochenge tumhe pyar karte nahin - Deewana - Nadeem/Shravan
  
  
• From: Anand (@ 202.54.69.151) on: Thu Oct 21 06:05:16 EDT 1999
  
  i really like IR a whole lot but there are times when he copies some songs too..The song, "Vandhaal vandhaal rajakumari, vayyari.." from oru ooril oru raajakumari has lot of strong influences of Enya's songs....
  
  
• From: Kumar (musician) (@ sp-69-26.tm.net.my) on: Thu Oct 21 16:00:32 EDT 1999
  
  Enapa Music life copycat thanepa Ulagithile yelorum than copycat copycat ilai endral music ile ..............
  
  
  
  
• From: Guru (@ sp-69-26.tm.net.my) on: Thu Oct 21 16:02:45 EDT 1999
  
  Adida Sake apadi pode yaar antha Barathi good luck !!
  
  
• From: SRK (@ icache-3.doit.wisc.edu) on: Thu Oct 21 16:46:26 EDT 1999
  
  Anand: What/who is Enya?
  
  
• From: Anand (@ 202.54.69.151) on: Sat Oct 23 02:13:04 EDT 1999
  
  SRK,
  
  Enya is an irish singer. she's a western classical singer who sings in Gaelic and english. Her songs from the album, "Shepherd Moons" has been the "source" for the song "Vandhaal vandhaal.." and song #7 of that album has been used as the background score by Deva in a Vijay-Sivaj Ganesan-Simran movie (forgot the name of that movie)
  
  
• From: SRK (@ icache-3.doit.wisc.edu) on: Sat Oct 23 13:17:31 EDT 1999
  
  Anand: Are you referring to the tune of "vandaal vandaal" or the humming interlude?
  
  
• From: Anand (@ 202.54.69.151) on: Tue Oct 26 03:40:59 EDT 1999
  
  SRK
  i'm referring to the humming interlude and the general background of the music
  
  
• From: Raja (@ jrc-cache8.jaring.my) on: Tue Oct 26 07:13:15 EDT 1999
  
  THe arrangement for Vanthal vanthal is common western classical mix. You can find a lot of songs
  with this mix. So I don't see how it can be a copy. Unless the main long tune from the song is lifted from the Irish song, it cannot be a copy. Probably its just a coincidence.
  To highlight this point :- Rock & roll songs. They all might sound similar, but different in main tune.
  Furthermore Why would IR copy 1 lone tune when he has hundreds of hits.
  
  
• From: raja (@ jrc-cache8.jaring.my) on: Tue Oct 26 07:21:58 EDT 1999
  
  Talking about copy, Our great Deva actually overlapped the chorus from MJ's 'WILL You Be THere' into one Kalloori Vaasal song. One listen is all it takes and u will find that DEva actually CUT OUT the portion & paste it into his song.He did not even try to recreate it.HOW DISGUSTING!!!
  
  
• From: Neels (@ ppp-203-197-9-145.bom.vsnl.net.in) on: Tue Oct 26 11:21:04 EDT 1999
  
  Anand,
  Did you check the years of release of both these albums?
  I agree with Raja about the common WC mix. In fact many gospel kind of music also has such shades, with violin and piano and vocal blending well.
  IMO, it is not a copy at all.
  Neels
  
  

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