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Pammal_K_Sambantahm Songs - DEVA & KAMAL win again !!!!!!

Topic started by kalathur_kannappan (@ 202.88.152.159) on Thu Dec 27 04:54:24 EST 2001.
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Deva & Kamal seem to have pulled it off yet again, after their successfull teaming up in AVVAI SHANMUGI...after watching the trailer, i felt DEVA has done a good job, going by just the FIRST IMPRESSION.And the trailer had one specific dance number...well...who said KAMAL is getting old ?

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• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.130.13) on: Mon Jan 21 00:54:57 EST 2002
  
  The movie was thoroughly enjoyable with Crazy Mohan and Kamal at their elements. The 'Kaathadikku kooda vaal irukku, athukkaga korangu parakka mudiyuma' pazhamozhi was the best!! :-) Simran looked pretty but totally out of place and sorts!
  
  I kinda enjoyed the 'sakalakala vallavane' and 'endi choodamani' numbers. Rest were terribly noisy! Felt that a composer like Manisharma could've done better songs if the need of the movie is just catchy, time pass songs.
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210) on: Mon Jan 21 01:44:30 EST 2002
  
  Karthik S,
  
  >>>> Felt that a composer like Manisharma could've done better songs if the need of the movie is just catchy, time pass songs.
  
  AthukkuLLa IRai maRanthutteengaLaa ? Michel, Madhana, Kama Rajan paarththa nyapakam irukkaa ? ;-)
  
  Thats one of the 'complte' movies I have ever seen !
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.130.13) on: Mon Jan 21 02:20:00 EST 2002
  
  >>>> AthukkuLLa IRai maRanthutteengaLaa ?
  
  NagaS: IR'a ithumathiri frivolous (athavathu vishayamatra, time pass and funny) movie'kku music poda solvatharku konjam koochama irukku enakku! Even for Thenali I thought ARR had no work there and whatever he does is bound to be criticized!
  
  MMKR is a cult classic as far as I'm concerned. I must've seen it about 50 odd times but still watch it when it comes on TV sometimes. The only other comedy that I watch everytime its played is KB's Thillu Mullu and its original hindi version 'Golmaal'!
  
  But seriously, do you think IR deserves such a movie like PKS? I mean the movie is splendid but the scope for music is absolutely zero here. They are forced on the script. So I dont think people like ARR or IR should even be thinking about it.
  
  Deva and Manisharma are the common man's composers IMO and can adapt to any kinda scripts whether the music is important to that movie or not. Their work is just to be part of the movie the way the director asks them to. And they do it perfectly. But yes, given a superior script that demands they can perform extremely well too, like Deva for Aasai.
  
  IR and ARR anyway do less movies per year and I really dont think that such movies should part of that small list! Deva and Manisharma do such movie all round the year so it will not affect them or the movie in anyway!
  
  PKS is probably about 25% of MMKR so I'd consider it just above Thenali (which dragged in many places, Mouli is better than KSR in comedies with Kamal, I felt) so in that sense, PKS is a mere funny timepass.
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210) on: Mon Jan 21 03:41:34 EST 2002
  
  >>>> But seriously, do you think IR deserves such a movie like PKS? I mean the movie is splendid but the scope for music is absolutely zero here.
  
  You are right Karthik ... There was a place where BGM could have made an impact (When Kamal asks simran, 'ellaamee poyyaa' and two, three scenes after that), Deva managed it with 'EeeNdi soodamaNi' ,
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Mon Jan 21 03:43:33 EST 2002
  
  But seriously, do you think IR deserves such a movie like PKS? I mean the movie is splendid but the scope for music is absolutely zero here.
  
  Even for Thenali I thought ARR had no work there and whatever he does is bound to be criticized!
  
  
  
  Karthik S,
  
  I agree with you. But, let us see in a different perspective also.
  
  Let us take Thillu Mullu and MMKR. The MD is selected for the movie in its earlier stage (i guess so). So the oneliner for these movies is a family full length comedy entertainer a similar description to PKS (might be thillu mullu had a precursor in the form of golmal but still forget about it). At that juncture one can similarly argue that there is little scope for MSV/IR to show their musical ability in that kind of comedy films. Had Greats like MSV or IR shunned those movies citing that as reason, we would have lost atleast two gems of TFM, raagangaL padhinaaru uruvaana varalaaru and sundari neeyum sundaran gyaanum.
  
  IMHO, In reality very very less movies are/were made which had/has eye on musical ability of the MD, Greats convert many of other films as their oppurtunities to show their ability. Argument sake let us take, say, 50% of MSV/IR films were having good music. So do we have to think that those movies were made for the sake of MDs? We can list a long set of movies which seemed to have less scope for musicals and had splendid music from the greats like KVM, MSV, IR. In Rahman's case an immediate example would be Pavithra.
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.130.13) on: Mon Jan 21 04:24:19 EST 2002
  
  Kupps:
  
  Nalla logic. I agree that a composer has to work within the kind of scripts he's presented with and succeed within those parameters even if that movie has very less scope for music.
  
  By that logic, all that PKS demanded was catchy item numbers and Deva not giving us those might be a failure on his part. You are right there!
  
  Aanalum, I'd feel terrible (personally) to go and ask a person like IR to compose catchy item numbers for a fun movie...I have his image as a highly intelligent composer...an image of a veteran music man who has reached a certain stage in which he should (IMO) not waste his time or talent doing numbers which have no significance to the movie or to his career. Since ARR is just about 10 movie years old I think he can afford them to some extent, but surely not IR.
  
  If you ask me what kind of movie IR should be making...I'd say some different and interesting movies...for ex. maybe Aalavanthaan, Nandha, even 12B to some extent as the basic premise of the story was new...IR maybe could've played around with the time factor considering the movie is about one person in 2 parallel dimensions! IR's interpretation of the kind of music it requires might have been intellectually different and stimulating that a market friendly and amazingly catchy score by HJ who is there to earn his 50 lakhs per movie.
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Mon Jan 21 06:08:48 EST 2002
  
  Karthik S
  
  adhuvum sari thaan (aruL naan chari-nnu s(c)olladhadhukku mannikkanam engooru colloquial pazhakkam vida maataengudhu).
  
  but if it were me in your place and have access to IR i would still go to him and ask him whether he is interested to take this project. coz he is the person to decide upon his needs (to show his ability or not). he is a genius whereas im not and hence i cannot decide whether IR would be (rather should be) doing this film or not. in such situations, i would prefer to be like the directors of many of trouser's movies.
  
  
• From: shantini (@ 203.106.183.90) on: Sat Jan 26 07:47:13 EST 2002
  
  pamba k sambanthan win again
  
  
• From: prem (@ ) on: Fri Feb 8 15:37:51 EST 2002
  
  hey,
  my name is prem,i hope the film will be much better than allavandan,best of luck to director,
  i hope the kamal performase will be best in this film.
  
  
• From: Kumar (@ 12.234.128.194) on: Sun Feb 10 02:37:33 EST 2002
  
  Hi,
  
  I saw the movie yday and hadnt heard most of the
  songs before and was very pleasantly surprised
  to hear it in the theater. Though some had a
  familiar tone, it was all really good.. deva
  has done a really nice job.. even his BGM was
  adequate.. certainly not an IR.. but better than
  SAR.. and quite decent..
  
  :-)
  
  
• From: Prakash (@ 210.186.89.10) on: Mon Feb 11 07:19:10 EST 2002
  
  Can you send all those songs words in Pammal K Sambantham.
  
  
• From: OUT DEVA (@ 132.205.71.139) on: Tue Feb 12 14:12:22 EST 2002
  
  STOP TALKING ABOUT 100% GARBAGE MUSIC DIR IN THE TFM.
  PLEASE GET OUT DEVA. EVERYTING ENOGH
  
  NO ALB WORTH TO BUY. ALL SUCKS. CAOME DEVA MAKE SOME ORI MUSIC. NOTHING IN THE HEAD PLEASE GET OUT TFM.
  
  
• From: neddie (@ ) on: Fri Apr 26 06:52:33 EDT 2002
  
  Does anyone have details of the 2 classical pieces (titles and original singers)used in the introduction of "Gadothkaja"? Thanks.
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.139.147) on: Fri Apr 26 08:50:46 EDT 2002
  
  Personally, I think Avvai Shanmughi was better than PKS - song wise and movie wise.
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.140.6) on: Tue Apr 30 07:38:22 EDT 2002
  
  Kamal Hassan - Ayyo Paavam! :)
  
  http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2002/apr/30kamal.htm
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.82.17) on: Thu May 2 06:00:06 EDT 2002
  
  IMO Avvai Shanmugi is THE best in terms of comedy/songs/BG in recent times as far as Kamal's comedy movies are concerned. Its my all-time favourite.
  
  

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