Topic started by bb (@ 24.4.254.104) on Tue Feb 20 03:21:22 EST 2001.
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Hi! We've made a major addition to newtfmpage, and that is a big song bank. Dhool features thousands of songs for your listening pleasure. This site is a part of the newtfmpage.com - swara.com group. Together with newtfmpage, we wish to make this the best place to listen to tamil film songs online and know about tamil film music. Our collection includes old, new, famous, rare and unheard of songs. We are still fine tuning and fixing the database errors, so please bear with us. We value your feedback, and this will help us build the site better. Please post your comments below or mail to comments@newtfmpage.com.
This work was done by us (bb and RR) with MS and swara.com ravi.
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- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Wed Nov 13 12:39:24 EST 2002
Prem, you will need real player to listen to the songs.
- From: aruvi (@ 24.102.23.174)
on: Wed Nov 13 14:13:24 EST 2002
Great song.
- From: hari (@ 128.46.156.137)
on: Wed Nov 13 14:23:49 EST 2002
bb, lots and lots of links in dhool dont work. I think Mr.Prem is referring to those. Please do let us know if they are going to be fixed.
Also, another suggestion : along with actors, actresses, MDs and singers, please include the name of the lyricists along with each song. I feel its really important and useful as well.
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.174)
on: Wed Nov 13 22:33:56 EST 2002
Udhaya, thanks for those kind words.
Btw, I din't mean any disrespect to PS, who is a timeless legend. I wasn't even born at the time of 'Avalukkendru Or Manam'- but going by what I have heard from knowledgeable people and from what I've read, 'Unnidathil Ennai Koduthen' was the most popular song from the film.
No offence meant, honestly!
- From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52)
on: Thu Nov 14 02:18:59 EST 2002
Song of the Day: gnaayiru enbathu kaNNaaga from kaakkum karangaL.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/gnaayiru.rm
- MD: KVM. Great lyrics by Kannadasan. Sung by TMS and PS.
- Lyrics in our PPP page: http://www.newtfmpage.com/ppp/naayiru.html
kavignar's wordplay is amazing.
gnaayiru enbathu kaNNaaga
thingaL enbathu peNNaaga
sevvaai kOvaip pazhamaaga
budhanaaik kidaiththadhen ponnaaga
(ok, last line ennOda ignorable idaichcherugal - always wondered why he didn't complete with budhan)
- The song doesn't have much percussion.
- From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.213)
on: Thu Nov 14 02:41:21 EST 2002
Saravanan and Udhaya,
While steering clear of any controversy, I can still make the following statement:
I was in 9th Std., when 'avaLukkenRu Or manam' was released. Going by AIR / Vividh Bharati broadcasts, which were the only measure of popularity those days, both 'unnidaththil ennaik koduththEn' and 'malar edhu en kaNgaLthaan enRu solvEnadi' were equally popular, with not a shade of difference!
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.232)
on: Thu Nov 14 03:00:53 EST 2002
C V :-))
bb- Another nice song. I was unfortunate to see it- SSR looked apalling with soda buddi, and the filming was so unimaginative!
Reg. the lyrics, the song 'Thol Kanden' in Ithaya Kamalam had the following lines : Thedi vandha thingal, thingalil sevvai, sevaayil velli--'
Again, Kamal's famous song from Antharangam had the lines 'Gnayiru Oli Mazhayil, thingal kulikka vandhaal' (lyrics: Netaji?)
- From: suresh (@ 202.88.155.34)
on: Thu Nov 14 03:04:41 EST 2002
Cinema Virumbi
Athu thAN, nAttamai mAthiri nadunilaiyana theerpu koduthitteengaLe, ithile enna 'controversy' irukka povudhu? neenga TFM (forum) virumbi aaga irundhal, PS allathu SJ vai oru thaakku thaakki naalu vArthaiyavadhu solliyirukka vEndum; kuRaindhadhu oru 4 per vandhu sandai pOttu nammai makizhchikkadalil aazhthiyiruppargaL! Che, enna oru paraparappu illatha oru discussion...
- From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.5)
on: Thu Nov 14 03:32:30 EST 2002
I recollect the "Sirappu Then KiNNam" of SPB in Vividh Bharathi in late 70's. SPB listed out each great pair, described their talents and broadcasting the song which he liked the most.
For TMS+PS pair, SPB said the song "gnaayiru enbathu kaNNaaga" was simply great especially the 'diction' as well as clarity in the song. He described TMS + PS as "Isaikku ilakkaNam padaitha pair".
It was such a grest song... :-)
On "AvaLukkendru or manam" song contradiction:
One more recollection... There used to be 3pm-4pm special neyar viruppam in Madras A band those days. This was only on Sundays. Junta used to keep their ears clean to listen to the names of "neyar's" and the film, singers, song etc. This "Unnidathil ennai" by SJ and "Malar edhu en kangaL" by PS used to be repeated every alternate Sunday. Both are great songs and very well rendered; liked by many music lovers; OF COURSE with no shadowing of other song :-)
- From: karthik (@ 61.11.77.165)
on: Thu Nov 14 04:12:06 EST 2002
poda venna
- From: Aalavandhan (@ 203.106.139.103)
on: Thu Nov 14 04:43:23 EST 2002
>>>>SJ's 'Deviyin Koyil paravai ithu' from the same film was another great song.
Saravanan, isn't it KANNAN kovil paravai ithu? Or is that another song?
Yesterday, I watched Leoni and co singing Mannavan vanthaanadee thozhi (really). What a song, what great swarangal, what jathigal!!!
I wish I can listen to the original version some where.
A lot of guys who go gaga over songs like Azhagu malaraada and Minsaara kanna should listen to this song. ;)
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126)
on: Thu Nov 14 05:19:22 EST 2002
very good song...very nicely rendered by the evergreen pair. The "gnayiru..thingaL" thing continues even in the anupallavi as "naetRaya pozhudhu unnodu inndRaya pozhudhu aennodu(?) naaLaya pozhudhu namadhodu".
btw bb i feel this naetRu-indRu-naaLai (only three words) would have made him to restrict to gnaayiru-thingaL-sevvaai.
- From: Murali (@ 203.199.207.3)
on: Thu Nov 14 05:22:45 EST 2002
Sir, Today (14.11.02)only i found that dhool.com and newtfmpage.com. I think this site is not popularly known by everybody. This site is very good. Do something to popular among the public and music listeners.
- From: raja m (@ 24.44.133.72)
on: Thu Nov 14 08:39:04 EST 2002
bb:
A good choice - I also like Alli.. Kaal edhuthu Adimel adi edhuthu.. chinna kannan .. from the same movie (I am sure the words are incorrect :-)
very unusual start to the song though not sustained through out.
- From: malar (@ 204.27.156.146)
on: Thu Nov 14 09:17:32 EST 2002
enna azhagana padal....irvin nishapthatil intha padal nammaiyum avarkalodu engo oru azhagana idathukku azhaithu chellum....
munnoru piravi eduthirunthen
unnidam manathai koduthiruthen
pinnoru piravi eduthu vathen
pesiyapadiye kodukka vathen
ullathin kovilil vilagetra
mai vizhi kinnathil nei varthen
ennavoru kavithuvam...........antha kavingarukaga inrum yenga vaikaum innumoru padal....
- From: Udhaya (@ 66.81.135.116)
on: Thu Nov 14 12:30:17 EST 2002
bb,
Great SOTD. I recently caught both songs, "Alli Thandu" and "Gnyaayiru Enbathu" both on late night SUN TV. My, what a deception audio is! The songs are picturized on SSR and Vijayakumari in a cheap studio backlot. The expression I'm looking for is the opposite of rapture.
Saravanan et all,
Folks, all of you have responded to my SJ-PS comparison. I'm not taking Saravanan to issue for his statement nor am I intent on digressing this wonderful thread towards partisan fights. My post to Saravanan was entirely in a playful way. I have a fondness for all the knowledgeable folks who post here. I get to revel in many old forgotten songs through this thread. Please don't let my comments divert the attention on historical anecdotes and nostalgic flights. Do keep them coming.
A fan of your collective knowledge,
Udhaya
- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Thu Nov 14 13:11:16 EST 2002
excuse me, vijayakumari-kku allith thaNduk kaalaa?! aiyagO :)
- From: hihi:-) (@ 128.111.113.76)
on: Thu Nov 14 13:21:46 EST 2002
bb: thanks for the song. AhA OhO! you made my day man. have you got vElAlE vizhigaL? if you do, can we have it some day; searching for this song for a long time.
folks: for a beautiful interpretation of this same on the piano by our naveen jebarAj, please try http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/124/naveen_jebaraj.html .
- From: raja m (@ 24.44.133.72)
on: Thu Nov 14 13:37:49 EST 2002
bb:
The allith thaNduk is directed towards a child in the song :-)
- From: hihi:-) (@ 128.111.113.76)
on: Thu Nov 14 13:40:39 EST 2002
bb:
allith thandu kAleduththu adi mEl adi eduthtu
chinnak kaNNan nadakkaiyilE chiththirangkaL enna cheyyum (? - i am not sure about the last three words). therefore this should be a kuzhandhaip pATTu sung by the gadappARa kAlgaL :-) udhayA am i right?
- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Thu Nov 14 19:24:32 EST 2002
nalla vELai :-)
- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Thu Nov 14 19:25:09 EST 2002
aruL, i don't have vElaalE vizhigaL..
- From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52)
on: Fri Nov 15 01:01:48 EST 2002
Song of the Day: sOlai malaroLiyO from naam iruvar.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/solai.rm
- MD: Sudharsanam. Sung by T.R.Mahalingam and MLV(?? I am not sure).
- Raagam Desh. Bharathiyaar song.
- A detailed article on Naam Iruvar by Randor Guy is here: http://www.sangeetham.com/naamiruvar.htm
- Photo of TRM and T.A.Jayalakshmi in Naam Iruvar is here: http://www.avmindia.com/1946-55.html
- Thread on TRM, that has lots of interesting info: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/21966.21763.22.14.50.html
- The song starts off with:
sOlai malaroLiyO unadhu sundharap punnagai thaan
neelak kadal alaiyE unadhu nenjin alaigaLadi
which is a part of the song "suttum vizhich chudar thaan". The full kavidhai is here: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/9687/bar41016.html
The PS version of suttum vizhich chudar thaan has sOlai malaroLiyO as the starting of the charanam.
The next piece sung by the female singer is:
kaNNil theriyudhoru thORRam - adhil kaNNan azhagu muzhuthillai
naNNu muga vadivaik kaaNil andha nalla malarch chirippaik kaaNum
which is a part of "aasai mugam marandhup pOchchE". Lyrics here: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/9687/bar41014.html
Then, TRM sings:
veNNilavu nee enakku mEvum kadal naan unakku
paNNu suthi nee enakku paattinimai naan unakku
eNNiyeNNip paarththidilOr eNNamillai nin suvaikkE
kaNNin maNip pOnRavaLE, katti amudhE kaNNammaa!
which is a part of "paayumOLi nee enakku". Lyrics here: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/9687/bar41021.html
I wonder why they culled lines from different kavidhaigaL and put them together. Nonetheless, a great song, and excellent rendition by TRM.
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.156)
on: Fri Nov 15 02:05:01 EST 2002
The songs seems to be a Ragamalika..the pallavi is Desh.."vennilavy nee enakku" is in kApi and "eNNiyeNNi paarthidilthOr" is behag...I'm not sure abt "KaNNil theriyudhoru thORRam"(sounds like mAnd to me)....
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