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- From: silkfort (@ 202.9.162.133)
on: Mon Jul 31 01:12:15 EDT 2000
dr.Kannan,
somebody mentioned "kalaiyum neeyae" from then nilavu is set in sunadha vinodhini. confirm.
btw, "sihappu lollakku " is not from 'aasai' it is from "kadhal kottai" MD: deva.
- From: Devarajan (@ 202.9.184.95)
on: Mon Jul 31 05:49:55 EDT 2000
Could you please give the arohana & avarohana with swara stanas of
- From: IR (@ 1cust58.tnt14.bos2.da.uu.net) on: Mon Jul 31 08:28:04 EDT 2000
I believe Kaalayum Neeyae Maalayum Neeyae is set in Basanth Bahar
- From: RR (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg) on: Mon Jul 31 10:06:01 EDT 2000
..also 'thesulaavuthe'
- From: silkfort (@ 202.9.162.133) on: Tue Aug 1 01:15:15 EDT 2000
can someone confirm if the following are in charukesi?
a) sarigamapadhanee from sarigamapadhanee
b) manamalayum manjalum soodi from vadhiyar veetu pillai
c) pooja deivam vizhithirukka from harikrishnans
- From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185) on: Tue Aug 1 12:00:45 EDT 2000
b) is in chaarukEsi.
c) is in a ragam created by the manodharamam of Ouesuphachchan :-). The strarting lines are in chaarukEsi, but there is a lot of anya swara prayOgams and does not qualify as a chaarukEsi number.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185) on: Tue Aug 1 12:29:40 EDT 2000
Another fantastic chaarukEsi numberis from the malayaalam film - sargam. The song is "Krishna Krupaa saagaram" - a great number by KJY and Chitra.
- From: devarajan (@ 203.197.21.219) on: Thu Aug 3 04:41:13 EDT 2000
i've read some where that deva has composed
two songs in 'mohana ragam' in kadal
kotai movie. what are they?
have ar rehman has composed any film
songs in pandhuvarali ragam?
the first song in 'bombay' sung by chitra
(a solo number), is in keeravani?
please some one should clarify this.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185) on: Thu Aug 3 13:36:02 EDT 2000
(1) veLLarikkaa pinju veLLarikaa
(2) sigappu lOlaakku ( apparently in mohana kalyaaNi).
- From: IR (@ ) on: Thu Aug 3 13:50:29 EDT 2000
>>>have ar rehman has composed any film
songs in pandhuvarali ragam? <<<
"thu ithni pyaari ho saamne" is a lovely number in Panthuvarali by ARR
- From: Rajesh (@ 199.168.32.6) on: Thu Aug 3 19:07:53 EDT 2000
i thought "thum ithni pyaari ho samne" from Rangeela was Subha panthuvaraali.
Also, can anyone tell me the raagam for
1. Enai kanavilaye from Kaadhal desam
2. Usulambatti from Gentleman
rajesh.
- From: vasi (@ 203.199.224.138) on: Fri Aug 4 12:47:12 EDT 2000
ARR's indira film song achcham achcham illai is also in panthuvarali.
I think usilampatti is in madhyamavathi.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185) on: Fri Aug 4 15:38:57 EDT 2000
please clarify the rags for:
(1) thennai marath thOppukkuLLE - from therku theru machchaan - kaanada or dharbaari ?
(2) thOm thOm thOm - from oorellaam un paattu - ramapriya ?
(3) ippOthenna thEvai thappai - from arasiyal - amruthavarshini ?
- From: Rajesh (@ 199.168.32.7) on: Fri Aug 4 16:10:40 EDT 2000
Hi Vasi/RR/MS/Kannan/IR/Silkfort...!
I am very much new to the group. infact, i found the site just yesterday evening. and today morning, i had my first job to go through the "Old responses". I really like to get involved.
i found that you are the leads in the group...nice joining you.
MS, "Thennai mara thoppu" resembles "Marugo marugo" from sathileelavathi closely. i think it should be Kaanada.
Fundoos, can anyone tell me the raaga for
"Enai kanavilaye" from Kaadhal desam.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185) on: Fri Aug 4 16:51:51 EDT 2000
Rajesh:
There are no leaders :-) Welcome to newtfmpage. Hope to get some good info from you.
Enai kaaNavillaiyE is set in natabhairavi - the most maligned ragam after shankaraabaranam ?
- From: Dr.SK (@ 61.1.207.241) on: Fri Aug 4 17:17:02 EDT 2000
hallo everone,
the song "Enaikanavillaye netrodu" from kadhal
desam is set in Keeravani.,alsothe song'Kannalane
enathu.' from Bombay is set in Keeravani.
hallo MS,regarding the songs from Kadhal kottai
1.vellarikka pinchu vellarika.. - Mohanam in 'thara sthayee..'2.Sigappulolakku- is in Mohana kalyani. Deva has used the same Mohana Kalyani
for another song 'Oru thedhi partha thenral veesum
- (?movie).
hallo RR, the song THESULAVUDHE.. is set in Hamsanandhi only- if u hear the chittaswarams in the song-da ni sa-ma ga da ni sa..' u can fix the
song in Hamsanandhi!
hallo Rajesh! welcome to this excellent site for
carnatic music in tfm!
'Marugo marugo maru gayee..' from Vetri vizha is
set in Sankarabharnam. whereas,the song in Sathi
Leelavathy is set in Kaanada
Thennai marathoppukkulle.. is set in Kaanada. you
can take this for granted that Deva had lifted
the swaras from Mullai malarmele..'from Uthamaputhiran- G Ramanathan MD is a classical
song in Kaanada.
the song Usilampatti from Gentleman and Andha arabi kadaloram from bombay are set in same raga
? harikambodhi.
- From: Rajesh (@ 199.168.32.7) on: Fri Aug 4 17:26:23 EDT 2000
Hi SK
Thanks. you say the 'Arabi kadaloram' is in Harikambothi. but, the starting music ( a kinda arabic music ) looks like keeravani. is that correct ?
also, in 'Enai kaanavilaye', i see N1 in charanam,
- "Nee ennai neengi chendrale"
is it keeravani still ?
- From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185) on: Sat Aug 5 15:10:50 EDT 2000
No it cannot be keeravaaNi SK, I can rarely see the N3 in the song. Can you point out the place where it comes ?
- From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185) on: Sat Aug 5 16:01:33 EDT 2000
Some chaarukEsi numbers:
(1) http://www.jyothish.com/songs/krupaya.ram - from swaathi thriunaaL - not sure if it is a krithi - I hope it is chaarukEsi
(2) http://www.jyothish.com/songs/krishnakrupa1.ram - from sargam
Both are sung by KJY.
- From: IR (@ 63.16.161.213) on: Sun Aug 6 08:01:47 EDT 2000
MS: Kripayaa Paalaya Sowre is a Swathi Thirunal Krithi and most definitely in Charukesi...
Aaadal kalaye Devan thandhadhu (KJY) is another song in Charukesi..
- From: Rajesh (@ 199.168.32.7) on: Sun Aug 6 10:55:23 EDT 2000
More numbers in Charukesi :
Aadal kaneero from Madurai Veeran
Manmatha leelaye vendrar by Thyagaraja bhagavathar
Engenge engenge from Neruku nerr
Chinna thai aval from Thalapathi
- From: Rajesh (@ 199.168.32.7) on: Sun Aug 6 10:57:29 EDT 2000
Can anyone tell me the swaras of the raagams
Misra maandu
Misra bilu ?
Do you some songs from these raagams ?
- From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185) on: Sun Aug 6 16:28:08 EDT 2000
IR, thx a lot fro the info.
Does anybody know about the hindi song, "dheerE dheerE subah huyi, jaag uti zindhagi" sung by KJY. It is in chaarukEshi too and the composer is Bappi lahiri (weird combo indeed:-))
does anybody know of this ragam which us apparently a janyam of chaarukEshi ?
S R2 G3 P D1 N2 S (chaarukEshi - M)
what is it called ?
- From: Dr.SK (@ 61.1.207.156) on: Sun Aug 6 18:13:14 EDT 2000
hallo everyone,the following numbers can be added
to Chaarukeshi list.
1.Samsaram adhu minsaram- from same titled film
2.Thoodhu selvatharadi..- from Singaravelan
3.Vasantha mullai pole vandhu- from Sarangadhara
4.Kaadhala..kadhala..- from Avvai Shanmugi
5.Moonru Thamizh thonriyathu unnidamo-Madhuraiyai
meetta Sundara pandiyan
6.Nadanthai vaazhi Kaveri..- Agasthiyar
7.Kai kotti sirippargal..oorar- Adisaya ragam
8.Ragam..thanam..pALLAVI.. -from Sankarabaranam
9.Vara cholladi.. avanai vara cholladi-Muthusippi
10.Katrinile..perum katrinile.. Etri vaitha dheepathilum oli pirakkum..- Thulabaram
11.Amma..nee sumantha pillai- Annai orh aalayam.
12.Oru siriya paravai- Andha oru nimidam
13.Mayanginen solla thayanginen- Naaney raja
naaney mandhiri.
14.Sakkarai kattikku..- Ulley veliye
15.Malar maalayum manjalum soodi..-Vathiyar Veettu
pillai (Sathiaraj film)
16.Naalai indha velai parthu odi vaa nila.. inru
enthan thalaivan illai senru vaa nila..-the national award winner (MSV/PS) is also set in
Charukeshi(atlaest pALLAVI)
Re: Mishra maand- the hitsong by IR-Poo maalaiye
tholl sera vaa.. from Pagalnilavu
Need more and more?
- From: vasi (@ 203.199.224.145) on: Mon Aug 7 10:19:03 EDT 2000
misra maand - Alappol velappol(Ejamaan)
Anjali Anjali pushpaanjali(Duet)
- From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185) on: Mon Aug 7 12:40:25 EDT 2000
The song "poopparikkira vELaiyilE" has the pallavi set in chaarukEshi. A beautiful rendition by SPB. Another song which comes into my mind is "nallthOr veeNai" from "marupadiyum"
- From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185) on: Mon Aug 7 13:35:09 EDT 2000
SK:
vasantha mullai's base tune though is in chaarukEshi, there is an anya swaram @ "Odi vaa". The dhaivatham is D2.
- From: silkfort (@ 193.82.9.195) on: Tue Aug 8 04:59:42 EDT 2000
didn't ilayaraja goof up between charukesi and charumathi, when explaining the raga of Mari amri ninne and Padariyaen padiparuyaen?
- From: Rajesh (@ 199.168.32.6) on: Tue Aug 8 10:40:00 EDT 2000
Thanks SK and Vasi, Can you tell me the arohanam and avarohanam of misramaand ?
how about Misra bilu(?)
somewhere i read that "Kakkai chiraginile" from Ezhavathu manithan is set in Misra bilu.
- From: vasi (@ 203.199.220.20) on: Tue Aug 8 12:07:21 EDT 2000
I don't see any tint of charukesi in mari mari ninne/ paadariyen. Its charumathi only.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185) on: Tue Aug 8 14:00:43 EDT 2000
silkfort:
Are you referring to some interview ?
- From: IR (@ 1cust58.tnt14.bos2.da.uu.net) on: Mon Jul 31 08:28:04 EDT 2000
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