Home   Forum   Wiki   Notes   Register   FAQ   Sitemap   About Us   Contact Us  

"Rajasthan":What terrible music by Deva!!

Topic started by Kaushik K R (@ 203.197.182.180) on Sat May 19 13:41:03 EDT 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

I saw this movie last night on cable. I missed the credits. The songs were atrocious. Since it was a Vijayshanti movie, I thought it was by some Telugu MD. But my friend told me that it was by Deva. Its got to be Deva's worst ever. I want your opinion on this album.

---

Responses:

• Old responses
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.47.171.171) on: Wed May 30 23:24:27 EDT 2001
  
  cosmician,
  How you want tme to back my claims with facts, How can I prove that album 'ABC' by ARR or IR is sub-avg ?
  
  As I said earlier, it is my opinion and thats it, You may accept Muthu and padayappa as great musical albums, But I can't, I have seen lot of Rajni movies and I believe rajni deserves better songs than this (I am not talking about his skills in acting here), Listen to Veera - Each song - including the dappanguththu number - are made very well and opt to the situation., IMO no other Rajni movie had good songs after veera - Batsha came closer - that too because of excellent work by SPB in all songs., (Except 'thanga magan' where KJY and K S Chitra ruled the song)
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.47.171.171) on: Wed May 30 23:25:40 EDT 2001
  
  sudden doubt,
  
  Batsha came before Veeraa or after ? I am not sure.,
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Athi (@ 24.182.219.105) on: Wed May 30 23:55:12 EDT 2001
  
  NagaS,
  
  You are right, Batsha came in 95 Jan and
  Veera in 94 Apr. BGM of Padayappa is one of
  the worst I have heard for a Rajini movie. I
  was watching Mannan the other day and what
  a BGM it had (elegant music whenever Rajini
  comes compared to the irritating noise which
  comes in Padayappa).
  
  Talking of Badsha, I heard a RDBurman
  number the other day from which the beloved
  xerox copier Deva has lifted the music for
  the song Azhagu.
  
  Athi
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 64.160.54.112) on: Thu May 31 00:15:29 EDT 2001
  
  was Veera the last movie by IR for Rajini ? Valli came in 93 i think.....
  
  yes, i checked Raajangam..... Veera was the last movie for both together....
  
  
• From: Yaaro (@ 139.230.126.6) on: Thu May 31 07:43:36 EDT 2001
  
  Yes.. I agree with Athi. Padiappa had rubbish songs and rubbish back ground music. How long did KSR waited for this rubbish music?
  
  
• From: mahesh (@ 202.9.182.227) on: Thu May 31 08:55:12 EDT 2001
  
  although i am a illayaraja fan, it is very clear that his best days seem to be over .unless and until he comes out with new and imaginative music that captures the public,i dont think illayraja will occupy the same position once he enjoyed. Also illayraja's glorius music in the past was accompanied by the glorious voice of spb. he used spb's talent to the maximum. but now raja has swithched on to newcomers whose voice are very stale and the songs are sung in the same manner repeatedly. He should switch back to spb as his main play back singer and spb by his sheer voice can make a very good come back for illayaraja. still sbp's voice looks very refreshing to hear
  
  
• From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ 202.54.33.216) on: Thu May 31 14:05:33 EDT 2001
  
  Mahesh:
  
  You must better innovate yourself rather trying to correct IR, IMHO! There can be no other satisfying answer for you!
  
  Maestro's Fans Come To:
  http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/maestroilaiyaraajafansclub
  
  
  
• From: Sridhar (@ 203.200.15.20) on: Sun Jun 3 13:58:00 EDT 2001
  
  Pozhudu Pogathavan
  
  Your list is not of ARR's bad albums, but of ARR's not so popular albums. How can you say Anthimantharai is bad?? It is absolutely great. Just bcoz the movie sank without a trace doesnt mean the songs are bad. If that is true, I can name 100s of IR albums.
  
  
• From: Athi (@ 24.182.219.105) on: Sun Jun 3 16:18:41 EDT 2001
  
  Sridhar,
  
  For you, every album of ARR is great and what Pozhudu Pogathavan has mentioned, doesn't apply.
  And why you have to resort to criticizing IR and his music for defending ARR.
  
  For people like you, if films with ARR's music flops (Quite a number during the last 2 years), you will say that the movie flopped inspite of ARR's efforts. And for movies which got success (like Padayappa) due to other factors, you will say ARR's music was the main reason for the movie's success.
  
  Athi
  
  
  
• From: Sridhar (@ 203.200.15.20) on: Mon Jun 4 14:23:27 EDT 2001
  
  Athi
  
  PP said that "Anthimantharai" is bad and that I could not bear. Just bcoz a film isnt popular doesnt mean songs are bad. To prove that this analogy holds good for IR too, I said that. So, whats wrong in that? I never criticised IR.
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on: Tue Jun 5 05:03:17 EDT 2001
  
  Anthimantharai is one of the best. I recently found out the cassette that I bought. Un-fortunately I did not hear it that much at that time. I found it out now. I shall get back to you with it's details.
  
  ----
  I am not going to give my email Id's here after. Just could not type again and again. I Will definitely give it on request.
  --------
  
  
  
• From: Sridhar (@ 203.200.15.20) on: Fri Jun 8 14:01:01 EDT 2001
  
  Athi
  
  I seem to find no response from you. Why is that?
  
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on: Sat Jun 9 10:07:31 EDT 2001
  
  Sridhar:
  Your taste, especially towards Andhimantharai is encouraging. Generally, even HCARR fans only keep track of his popular films. Films like A, which could not shine musically, for a different reason altogether, are not remembered or appriciated by them.
  ---degression---
  
  Your name is my brother's too. He is a very very hardcore ARR fan. In front of him I become an ardent IR supporter. The points that IR fans say here, I put it in front of him. We have fun when we argue over IR and ARR. We get serious at times. I am amazed by his knowledge of ARR songs. He has almost all songs of ARR in his fingure tips and remembers each line of it. Many times, I have posted details about ARR only after he told me that.
  ---end degression---
  
  
• From: Sridhar (@ 203.200.15.20) on: Sun Jun 10 10:13:18 EDT 2001
  
  CF
  
  Thanx! I too am a VVHC ARR Fan. I have some friends who havent even heard "Poo Kodiyin Punnagai" from Iruvar. And they comment on ARR. The above mentioned song ranks as my no. 1 song.
  
  Your brother seems to be like my twin! (I dont have one)
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on: Sun Jun 10 12:37:14 EDT 2001
  
  Sridhar:
  >>>"Poo Kodiyin Punnagai"
  You are right. It's easy (actually very tough) to compose music for a film based on one certain period.
  
  Ex: 1947
  NAdodi thendral
  Lagaan
  etc. Here the story happen in only one time period.
  
  In iruvar, it is about the story of two people and their evolution as winners over different periods. To compose music for such a film where the story spans over several periods (before 1940, 1940 - 1950, 1950 - 1960, 1960 - 1970) then the music should have in it the essence of such periods. Iruvar is just that and one of the great works of ARR. A point , enough to prove that he is a genius.
  
  But, as you said its better if we bring out some of the great works of ARR , which are lying unnoticed by majority, as examples here we will be doing great job. That is why I never fail to quote examples from uzhavan, pavithra , pudhiya mannargal and few unsung hindi works like KNK , DSR and daud etc.
  
  
• From: Athi (@ 24.182.219.105) on: Sun Jun 10 16:57:58 EDT 2001
  
  Looks like this thread has fully digressed from its original topic.
  
  Also it looks like what I wrote about Sridhar,
  is fully true as he himself has admitted.
  
  Looks like Sridhar and Common Friend are enjoying
  each other's company a lot and incidentally I had mentioned about this also in another thread.
  
  Common Friend, Nadodi thendral had music by IR in case you didn't know that. Looks like ARR gets credit for music composed by IR also !
  
  Athi
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.179) on: Mon Jun 11 21:26:33 EDT 2001
  
  Athi:
  Stop your peththal. I very well know that NT is by IR. My examples were about period films. I never said that it is by ARR. I write only when I know that they are right. Not like you (with out even hearing a song). I have always appriciated IR for his work and quoted many examples. It is you who is bitten by the fanatic worm, not me. Just spare some time to think about others also. Your hero might be the great, but others are also equally great, if not greater.
  
  
• From: Athi (@ 24.182.219.105) on: Tue Jun 12 23:46:23 EDT 2001
  
  Common Friend,
  
  This forum is for everyone to write and can't be controlled by a few individuals like you.
  
  Read what you have written and for someone new to tfm, they might think that Nadodi Thendral had music by ARR.
  
  About hearing the songs that you have mentioned as recycled by IR, I have already
  replied that I have heard them and found no
  similarities. You can't look down at people
  for not agreeing with you.
  
  Don't be under the illusion that you can never be wrong.
  
  Athi
  
  
• From: Sridhar (@ 210.214.118.208) on: Wed Jun 13 07:17:12 EDT 2001
  
  Athi
  
  What are you talking? What did you say about me that was right?
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 64.220.209.210) on: Wed Jun 13 22:41:29 EDT 2001
  
  AYYAA,
  Inga enna nadakkuthu? The title of the thread is horrible to even think about... Some one who does not even know, who scores the music for this film had started it and u guys, OOPS! all r really GREAT! Intha maathiri oru thread-kkulla vandhu unga sandai vaera. Sabaash nalla koothu! It's proved once again that irrelevant of the title of the thread, the IR-ARR war will be there... HATS OFF GUYS!!!!
  If possible, discuss something relative to the topic. Atleast about deva and his best or worst OR about the film raajasthaan!! There's no point in talking about the greatness of ARR here. It's highly irritating. That too personal clashes too... Will u please stop all these??
  ADMIN, pl. close this thread.... It's a humble request.....
  
  
• From: eden (@ 210.214.5.247) on: Thu Jun 14 01:49:59 EDT 2001
  
  CF, I would rate the songs / music of nAyagan as a `period' film much better than NT (though with my own way of interpretation which is linked to TFM's evolution).
  
  -nAn sirithAl deepAvaLi (Jikki / P Leela kAlam)
  -nee oru kAdhal sangeetham (typical early 70's stuff - one would mistake this's by MSV/VK/Vijayabhaskar)
  -andhi varum nEram (symbolising the HFM influence in TN during 70's)
  -nilA athu vAnathu mElE (the odd song of 70's with western influence)
  -theN pAndi cheemayilE (typical Raja number of 80's, the golden age of TFM)
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.168.237) on: Thu Jun 14 21:04:17 EDT 2001
  
  >>>You may accept Muthu and padayappa as great musical albums, But I can't,<<<
  
  NagaS...why don't we start a comparison of the instrumentation in the songs of the above films with that of Veera...this may eliminate the subjectiveness of this arguement
  
  

---

List all pages of this thread

Post comments