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Topic started by bb (@ 24.4.254.104) on Tue Feb 20 03:21:22 EST 2001.
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Hi! We've made a major addition to newtfmpage, and that is a big song bank. Dhool features thousands of songs for your listening pleasure. This site is a part of the newtfmpage.com - swara.com group. Together with newtfmpage, we wish to make this the best place to listen to tamil film songs online and know about tamil film music. Our collection includes old, new, famous, rare and unheard of songs. We are still fine tuning and fixing the database errors, so please bear with us. We value your feedback, and this will help us build the site better. Please post your comments below or mail to comments@newtfmpage.com.
This work was done by us (bb and RR) with MS and swara.com ravi.

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• From: geeth (@ 195.39.134.84) on: Tue Apr 22 02:40:30 EDT 2003
  
  a great song selection for today. bringing back memories of childhood when i used to listen to my grandmother hum this song. a rare treat today and thanks for it.
  
  
• From: raj (@ 202.54.137.90) on: Tue Apr 22 03:38:12 EDT 2003
  
  Reg SOYD...Sridevi herself mentioned that she likes PS's voice & in Telugu Most of the Songs for Srideve were by PS followed by SJ...
  
  and As subbu mentioned Vidiya vidiya,
  
  I always felt Renga rengayya & another one from Sivappu kal mookuthi were the best by PS for Sridevi
  
  
• From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.9) on: Tue Apr 22 03:56:24 EDT 2003
  
  bb,
  
  what u try to say thru "Subbu, actually, I think vidiya vidiya sollith tharuvEn was a sub-par effort from PS";
  
  am pooooor in english :-)
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52) on: Tue Apr 22 04:07:00 EDT 2003
  
  vidunga, paravaayillai. malligaippoo jaadhi rOja kELunga!
  
  
• From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.9) on: Tue Apr 22 05:42:31 EDT 2003
  
  Its ok if you have your won opinion about PS' effort. But want to share the note from the "Vimarsanam" from Aanandha vikatan on "Pokkiri raja".
  
  "Neenda naaLaikku piragu, P Susheela-vin miga inmayana kuralil 'vidiya vidya solli tharuven'.... Kaadhil thenaaga paaigiradhu...etc etc".
  
  BTW, am today unlucky... not able to listen to SOTD :-((
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.213) on: Tue Apr 22 14:25:26 EDT 2003
  
  bb- the mention of 'La Paloma' takes me back to my school days where our ‘piano miss’ used to make us sing this song -‘When I left Habana, nobody saw me go---’
  
  Malligai poo jaadhi roja is a faithful note by note adaptation of La Paloma. Though the film’s music was credited to S Hanumantha Rao (brother of S Rajeswara Rao), this song was composed by a team comprising of the great Dhanraj Master and R Parthasarathi. (Dhanraj was an acknowledged genius in Western Music- Many, including Ilayaraja, learned under him in his humble room in Sai Lodge, Luz Corner, Madras). Sangu Subramaniam wrote the lyrics for this song.
  
  Ravu Balasaraswathi’s satin voice adds sheen to this lovely song. It is a pity that she was not utilized much in Tamil. However, as the 50s was a decade of an amazing variety of talented singers, she made her mark in some 50 odd songs. Many of them showcase her wonderful range. If I had choose the best 10 from the 50, I would pick the foll:
  
  1.Sri Jaya Saraswathi devi- Bilhana
  2.Veen pazhi thaano prabho en mel-Laila Majnu
  3.Anbe paavama-Devadas
  4.Aaa--Nenjin nilamai- Vaanaratham
  5.Malligai poo jaadhi roja- Raji En Kannmani
  6.Neela vanna kanna vaada- Mangaiyar Thilagam
  7.Thangam pongum meni-Thenali Raman
  8.Thudikkum vaalibamey nodikkul poi vidumey-Marmaveeran
  9.Kannai thaan parikkuthu kaippadaatha rojappoo-Aasai Anna Arumai Thambi
  10.Sollu nee raja- Anbu Engey
  
  
• From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2) on: Tue Apr 22 17:16:53 EDT 2003
  
  She is not the dancer Balasaraswathi, right?
  
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.16.25.50) on: Tue Apr 22 19:02:30 EDT 2003
  
  Saravanan, there was another old TFM song that was an adaptation of "Que Sara Sara", right? Do you remember the song/film?
  
  
• From: sk (@ 202.156.2.7) on: Tue Apr 22 19:39:48 EDT 2003
  
  Vijay:
  
  I think it is 'chinnap peNNAna pOdhilE' by AMR. Let us wait for Saravanan to give the movie name and other details.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52) on: Tue Apr 22 21:25:44 EDT 2003
  
  Isn't the situation of "konjik konjip pEsi madhi mayakkum" the same as "Que Sera Sera"?
  
  
• From: sk (@ 137.132.3.12) on: Tue Apr 22 21:40:43 EDT 2003
  
  Vijay:
  
  I just searched my VCD collection and found 'chinnappeNNAna pOdhilE' in a collection of AMR-Jikki songs. It is from the movie Aravalli (MD: GR). It is a beautifully set dream sequence. The heroine's face resembles Panadari Bai and the hero looks like TR Mahalingam. Much of the song is sung by Jikki, with AMR joining towards the end. The dream ends with a sudden music where soldiers suddenly appear in the heroine's dream to arrest the hero! I will encode the song and send it to bb for putting in dhooL. It is a very pleasant song with nice orchestrations by GR.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28) on: Tue Apr 22 21:57:29 EDT 2003
  
  sk, I remember it now, thanks.
  
  
• From: sk (@ 137.132.3.12) on: Tue Apr 22 22:09:26 EDT 2003
  
  bb:
  
  You mean both songs are used to try and locate the 'kidnapped' kid? The "Que Sera Sera" version is used in Hitchcock's 'The Man Who Knew Too Much', I think.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52) on: Tue Apr 22 22:11:41 EDT 2003
  
  Yes, that's what I meant. Yes, the film was "The Man who knew too much" (aahaa, Doris Day!!). I thought "konjik konjip pEsi" film (which film was that?) was a lift of that movie.
  
  
• From: sk (@ 137.132.3.12) on: Tue Apr 22 22:56:17 EDT 2003
  
  bb:
  
  The movie is kaidhi kaNNAyiram. I didn't know that it is a lift of 'The Man Who Knew Too Much'! Are you sure? I haven't seen KK.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 64.136.26.31) on: Wed Apr 23 00:50:45 EDT 2003
  
  Hmm, missed 2 days, it's good though I didn't mean to hujack this thread earlier.
  
  mythila,
  You didn't say anything uncivil, I was reiterating how we differ in our views without insulting each other. It does seem unclear in my post, sorry about that. Hey, Paayum Puli and Engeyoa Kaetta Kural? That's very clever selective perception by you. Ejamaan is alaready covered under my favorable vote for RVU movies. I have maintained that there were individual songs all along, but not a dominant series like there was before 83. Also, Deva more or less perfected emulating and copying in some instances IR's rural song style in the 90s. When I heard "Vaikaasi Porandhaachu", "Solayamma", "Kizahkku Karai", "Vasandha Kaala Paravaigal" or "Sooriyan", I felt that those could've easily been IR movies from the late 80s. Some catchy tunes, but no intricate orchestration, flights of fancy with interludes, no elaborate string or horn sections or percussions, just flute, tabla, violins. Okay, let's end the IR discussion for awhile.
  
  Greatly enjoyed the last 2 SOTDs. Today's was a revelation for me.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 64.136.26.31) on: Wed Apr 23 00:52:03 EDT 2003
  
  not hujack, I meant hijack. Forgive the typos, I'm tired.
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.12) on: Wed Apr 23 01:51:04 EDT 2003
  
  bb- the singer Balasaraswathi and the dance Balasaraswathi are different persons. The dancer Bala is no more. The singer Ravu Balasaraswathi lives a quiet life of retirement in Hyderabad. She is married to the erstwhile Maharaja of Kolanka(?)
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52) on: Wed Apr 23 02:02:36 EDT 2003
  
  Song of the Day: chinnap peNNaana pOdhilE from aaravalli.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/chinnappen.rm
  
  - This is the tamil version of "Que Sera Sera", the Doris Day number in the Hitchcock movie "The Man Who Knew Too Much". (No, this is not "copied musicals vaaaaaaaaram" :-) ).
  
  - MD: G.Ramanathan. Sung by Jikki and A.M.Raja. I think Jikki has held her own in this song, though her voice doesn't quiver like Doris Day's. "veNNilaa nilaa" replaces "Que Sera Sera". AMR gets in the song at the fag end, and does a good job.
  
  - SK found this song in his collection:
  I just searched my VCD collection and found 'chinnappeNNAna pOdhilE' in a collection of AMR-Jikki songs. It is from the movie Aravalli (MD: GR). It is a beautifully set dream sequence. The heroine's face resembles Panadari Bai and the hero looks like TR Mahalingam. Much of the song is sung by Jikki, with AMR joining towards the end. The dream ends with a sudden music where soldiers suddenly appear in the heroine's dream to arrest the hero! It is a very pleasant song with nice orchestrations by GR.
  
  - TFM and Ballroom Dancing: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/24244.17.01.14.html
  
  - A clip from the original Doris Day song is here: http://www.reelclassics.com/Audio_Video/Music2a/clips/dorisday_queserasera_clip.mp3
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Wed Apr 23 02:40:58 EDT 2003
  
  Aravalli has Minavathy (pandari Bai s sister) I think,with T R Mahalingam.
  
  bb
  
  These songs really paint the evolution of TFM ,its crossing over from core carnatic music to mild western adaptations,setting the path for Thiraiisai and mellisai."Que sara" -Maatran thottathu maillgai ....Nice choice.Have we had
  
  Oridam thanile & Konjum Purave in SOTD?
  
  I was listeneing to "Sarasarnagal varum suzhandre" by MKT.The raga is Mohanam but music looks very much like GR s and the orchestra and arrangement more western then any MKT song.
  
  I have a doubt.Will Saravanan ever get a doubt?
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52) on: Wed Apr 23 03:10:59 EDT 2003
  
  OISG, Manisegaran mentions that Sarasarnagal.. is by Papanasam Sivan.
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Wed Apr 23 03:31:16 EDT 2003
  
  bb
  
  I met some old cine musicians few years back who had played with GR.During the conversation we talked about GR s contribution in MKT songs.
  
  GR s contribution to MKT s songs are interludes and conducting with Sivan mostly getting the basic tune after sessions with MKT for fixing up the brigas (for eg Maraivai puthaitha oodu which brings out MKT s classical music depth).But GR had his tunes as well like Manmatha leelai in between.GR was the front-end to make the song suit the film.
  
  This song you can feel the GR s touch in the "Entry music" which is very western.So MS Sir,could be right for the tune, but it is the orchestra which is more capitvating in this song.
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.213) on: Wed Apr 23 05:14:39 EDT 2003
  
  bb- You have reminded me of my long-forgotten 'Piano Miss' again today!
  
  It is said that GR was initially reluctant to copy an English song, but did it at Sundaram's (Modern Theatres)urging.
  
  Yes, it is Mainavathi, though I'm don't think it was TRM. He never had anyone else sing for him. (TRM acted in Amudhavalli)
  
  I have seen the film long back- a very interesting story of a land which is ruled by women, and men are treated as slaves. The queen Aaravalli (or Sooravalli) is a man-hater- Mainavathi is the princess, who secretly falls in love with the hero, and is terrified that the queen may find out. Later the hero overcomes all hindrances and wins Mainavathi's hand!
  
  There was another good AMR-Jikki duet as well- Anbe endhan munnaley(?). Tiruchi Loganathan's 'Chinna kutti naathana'is another memorable number.
  
  

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