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All-Time Great Lyrics in TFM!

Topic started by Bhaskar (@ spider-wa062.proxy.aol.com) on Fri Jun 19 01:52:00 EDT 1998.
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Friends,

Shall we discuss about some all time
great Lyrics in TFM by any Lyricist independent
of which Era in TFM!

Lyrics should be peculiar in writing, peculiar
in meaning, different in thinking, it has to be
different from the usual ones. It has to be
Unique in its approach/writing!

I shall give a few examples of some Lyrics
which I feel is very different and unique in its
style of writing, meaning and thinking!

Thanks
Bhaskar

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Responses:

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• From: Kanchana (@ spider-te074.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Jun 20 00:30:29 EDT 1998
  
  RV & muthax:
  ponnezhil is an excellent choice--fabulous combo of lyrics, music and the emoting by the singers. Let me see if I can remember the lyrics by singing along--here we go:
  
  TMS:
  ponnezhil pooththadhu pudhu vaanil
  veNpani thoovum nilavae nil
  en manath thOttaththu vaNNap paravai
  sendradhu engae sol sol sol (pon)
  
  thennai vanaththinil unnai mugam thottu
  eNNaththai sonnavan vAdugiraen
  eNNaththai sonnavan vAdugiraen
  unniru kaN pattu puN patta nenjaththil
  un pattuk kai padap pAdugiraen (pon)
  
  munnam en uLLaththil mukkani sarkkarai
  aLLik koduththa ponmAdam engE
  aLLik koduththa ponmAdam engE
  kiNNam nirambidach chenganich chAruNNa
  munvandha chevvandhi mAlai engE
  
  PS:
  pon ezhil pooththadhu thalaivaa vaa
  veNpani thoovum iRaivaa vaa
  un manath thOttaththu vaNNap paravai
  vandhadhu ingE vaa vaa vaa
  
  thennavan mandRaththu senthamizhp paN koNdu
  vandhadhu pon vaNdu pAdik koNdu
  vandhadhu pon vaNdu pAdik koNdu
  mannavan uLLaththai sondham koNdAL endRu
  sendradhu poondhendral Adik koNdu (pon)
  
  ennudal enbadhu unnudal endRa pin
  ennidam kObam koLLuvadhO
  ennidam kObam koLLuvadhO
  ondRil ondRAna pin thannaith thandhAna pin
  unnidam nAn enna solluvadhO? (pon)
  
  Enjoy!
  
  aruL:
  Just taking the Odi vandhadhum normally as simple conjunctions also is meaningful even without getting into the structure given by niral niRai aNi.
  
  mannAru:
  Those songs from Karnan are excellent--sung by TSM, seergaazhi, lOganaanathan & PBS.
  
  Clarifications for kaNNadhasans aththikkaai song in addition to Bhaskar's analysis:
  
  ath'thikkaai--andha dhisayil, aththikkaai
  aalan'gaai--visham pOl varuththum, aalangaai
  paavai'kkaai--peNNukkaaga, paagarkaai
  avarai'kkaai--avar mEl kObam koL, avaraikkaai
  kO'vaikkaai--(en) mannan mEl kObam koL, kOvaikkaai
  maadhuLan'gaai--peN manam kaai, maadhuLai
  vaazhak'kaai--vaazhththi oLi veesu, vaazhaikkaai
  uLLamellaamiL'agaayO--un manam iLagaadhO, miLagaai
  pEch'churaikkAyO--pEsaayO, suraikkaai
  kotRavar'aikkaai--mannavaridam kObam koL, avaraikkaai
  
  muthax:
  Here are the lyrics to endha oor sung by PBS in kaattu roja.
  
  endha oor endravanae irundha oorai sollavaa
  andha oor neeyum kooda arindha oor allavaa
  
  udalooril vaazhndhirundhaen
  uRavooril midhandhirundhaen
  karuvooril kudi pugundhaen
  maNNooril vizhundhu vittaen
  kaNNooril thavazhndhirundhaen
  kaiyooril vaLarndhirundhaen
  kAlooril nadandhu vandhaen
  kALaiyoor vandhu vittaen
  
  vElooraip paarththu vittaen
  vizhiyooril kalandhu vittaen
  pAlooRum paruvamennum
  pattinaththil kudi pugundhEn
  kAdhaloor kAttiyavaL
  kAttooril vittu vittAL
  kanniyoor maRandhavudan
  kadalooril vizhundhu vittEn
  
  paLLaththoor thannil ennai
  paridhavikka vitu vittu
  mEttooril andha mangai
  mElERi nindru koNdAL
  keezhooril vAzhvadhaRkum
  kiLimozhiyAL illaiyadA
  mElooru pOvadharkum
  vELai varavillaiyadA!
  
  Enjoy!
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ spider-te074.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Jun 20 01:16:36 EDT 1998
  
  Bhaskar:
  Some more on that aththikkaai song: the song is from the movie BalE Paandiyaa not Pava Mannippu.
  jAdhikkAi is a type of kaai too. I think they store it in tightly-covered containers in India to preserve the smell or something. I've forgotten now!
  
  Keerthi:
  That song is a toughie--I get stumped by the first line itself everytime. I think I understand the obvious, so let's give it a try and others can pitch in.
  
  muththaiththiru paththith thirunagai
  I think it's "muththaith tharu", isn't it?
  
  aththaikkiRai saththich charavaNa
  iRaiyaagiya Shakthiyin magan saravaNan?
  
  muththikkoru viththuk kurubara enavOdhum
  mukthi peruvadharku vidhaiyaana kuraubaran endru solvOm
  
  mukkatparamaRkuch churudhiyin
  muRpattadhu kooRpith thiruvaru
  moondRu kaNgaL udaiya paramasivanukku (isaikkum muRapatta?) "Om" enum thAraga mandhiraththaik kaRpiththa
  
  muppaththumu varkkath thamaruru madipENap
  muppathi moondRu kOdi dhEvargaLum adi paNiya
  
  paththuththalai thaththak kaNaithodu
  otraikkiri maththaip porudhoru
  pattappagal vattath thigiriyi viravaagap
  seems like a reference to extracting amirdham from pARkadal looking at "otraik kiri maththaip porudhoru".
  
  paththaRkira taththaik kadaviya
  pachchaippuyal mechchath thaguporuL
  pakshaththodu rakshith tharuLvadhu morunaaLE
  Reference to his Uncle Vishnu (pachchaippuyal) blessing him?
  
  thiththiththeya voththap paripura
  nirththappadham vaiththup payaravi
  thikkotkana dikkak kazhukodu kazhudhaadath
  Reference to Siva-paarvathi dance?
  
  thikkuppari attap payiravar
  thokkuththogu thokkuth thoguthogu
  chithrappavu rikkuth thirikada enavOdhak
  No clue. Does "attap payiravar" refer to the ashta bAlagargaL who "protect" the eight directions?
  
  koththuppaRai kottak kaLamisai
  kukkukkuru kukkuk kukukuku
  kuththippudhai pukkup pidiyena mudhukoogai
  kotputrezha natpatravuNarai
  vettippuliyittuk kulagiri
  kuththuppada voththup poravala perumaaLE
  The above sounds like a desription of a war scene with the "paRai" sounding, vultures circling and Murugan demolishing the unfriendly asuras.
  
  Keerthi, I'm sorry I'm not much of a help here. I hope I'm at least close in some of the things I've said. Otherwise, my apologies to the poet.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ pm062-26.spindler.wmich.edu) on: Sat Jun 20 01:41:03 EDT 1998
  
  Kanchana 'jaadhikkai'has lot of medicinal uses.
  Especially kai kuzhandhaigalin vayitru valikku
  jaadhikkai araithu vayitril thadavuvadhundu:0)
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ spider-tk012.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Jun 20 09:25:08 EDT 1998
  
  Ramki:
  
  Olunga poi padinganna, TFMDF pakkam suthikuttu
  irukeengala ? Ungala yaaravadhu kaetangala ippo
  jaadhikkaai-ukku Medicinal use irukka illaiyannu ? :-))))
  Addi vaangaama poga mateengannu ninaikkuraen!
  
  
• From: RV (@ 1cust181.tnt1.scl1.da.uu.net) on: Sat Jun 20 10:42:27 EDT 1998
  
  Muthax & Others:
  
  I beg to differ on the Endha Oor Endravane song. Just by adding the "oor" suffix to every word, the lyric doesnt become good.
  
  e.g.
  Kalaiyooril Ezhundhirunden
  Kannoorai Kasakkik Konden
  Coffeeyoorai Kuditthu Vaitthen
  Computeril Amarndhu Vitten
  
  Contrast this with Atthikkai.
  
  Mannaru:
  Aridhu Aridhu is an excellent choice. I especially like the Periadhu ketkin Varivadiveloi part. The way Avvaiyar begins with the earth, Brahma, Vishnu, Parkkadal, Parvathi, Sivan and ends with "Thondardam Perumai" is excellent.
  
  
  Ramki, Kanchana: Thanks for posting the lyrics.
  
  Bhaskar, Kanchana: Atthikkai explanation was terrific!
  
  Among songs of more recent vintage, I like this one from Guna.
  Kanmani Anboda Kadalan Naan Ezhudum Kadidhame..
  
  Not much of vartthai jalam, but perfect for the situation and in conveying the emotions of the hero and heroine.
  
  The following lyrics are being mentioned not for the whole lyric but for some vignette...
  
  1. Mappillai Vandhar Mappillai Vandhar paattil varum irandu varigalil odum melliya sogam migavum arumai.
  
  Pillaip Pettha Appa Vandhar Mottai Vandiyile
  Ponnaip Pettha Appa Vandhar Ottai Vandiyile
  
  Mottai Vandi - I beleive it means a nice and fancy mattu vandi.
  
  2. Virakthi coming out very nicely in the foll. lines...
  Uppendrum Seeni Endrum
  Ulnattuch Chelai Endrum
  Cheppith Thirivaradi - Kiliye
  Seivadhariayaradi
  
  
  Arumaiyana karpanaikkaaga
  1. Vanengum Thanga Vinmeengal Vizhi Imai Mooda Sooriyan Vandu Kadal Kulittherum Neram
  
  2. Vana Magal Nanugiral Veru Udai Poonugiral
  
  3. Mugatthil Mugam Parkkalam
  
  
  For conveying emotions very simply, even though some of them hv become cliches.
  
  1. Chinnanjiru Kiliye Kannamma
  Selvak Kalanjiyame
  Alli Anaitthidave En Mun
  Aadi Varum Thene
  
  Odi Varugaiyile Kannamma
  Ullam Kulirudhadi
  Aadi Nadakkaiyile Kannamma
  Aavi Thudikkudhadi
  
  Kannatthil Mutthamittal Ullamdhan
  Kalveri Kolludhadi
  Unnaith Thazhuvidilo Kannamma
  Unmatthamagudhadi
  
  Ucchidhannai Mugandhal Garvam
  Ongi Valarudhadi
  Mecchi Unnai Oorar Pugazhndhal
  Meni Silirkkudhadi
  
  Un Kannil Neer Vazhindhal En Nenjil
  Udhiram Kottudadi
  En Kannir Paavaiandro Kannamma
  En Uyir Ninnadhandro
  
  2. Nee Enadhinnuyir Kannamma
  Endha Neramum Nindranaip Potruven
  Thuyar Poyina Thunbangal Ninnaip
  Ponnenak Konda Pozhudhile
  Endhan Vaayinile Amudhuroodhe
  Kannamma Endra Per Sollum Podhile
  Uyir Theeyinile Valar Jothiye
  Endhan Sindhanaiye En Sirpame
  
  Very appropriate for the situation - conveying different meanings to the intended audience in the movie and the movie-goers...
  
  Mudivilla Mona Nilai Nee - Malai
  Mudiyil Kanuvai Varai
  
  Varai Nee Varai...
  
  
• From: RV (@ 1cust181.tnt1.scl1.da.uu.net) on: Sat Jun 20 12:06:05 EDT 1998
  
  One more in the multiple meaning list;
  
  En Vizhiyil Nee Irundhai
  Un Vadivil Naan Irundhen
  ....
  
  Ponnondru Kanden...
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ spider-tb043.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Jun 20 12:30:19 EDT 1998
  
  RV:
  Is it "piLLaiyai petha appA vandhaar motor vandiyilae", by any chance?
  
  Those kaNNammA songs are in a different class altogether too.
  
  
• From: RV (@ 1cust181.tnt1.scl1.da.uu.net) on: Sat Jun 20 12:53:08 EDT 1998
  
  Kanchana:
  My mom is positive it is mottai vandi. Even I hv heard that term used in villages.
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ ww-tp03.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Jun 20 14:12:32 EDT 1998
  
  Kanchana:
  
  piLLaiyai petha appA, andha motor vandiyai
  peN veettar kittae irundhu expect panni mottai
  vandiyulae dhaan pOi irupparu :-)))
  
  So RV neenga solradhu dhaan sarinnu enakku padudhu :-)))
  
  Mamanaar mappillai kittae motor vandiyai
  munkootiyae paarthutta appromaa avar oru
  motor vandi, peNNai pettha kadamaikkaga
  vaangi kudukka marandhuvaaru :-)))
  
  Edhukkum, Maattu vandiyula pOradhu better! :-)))
  
  But Kanchana, I appreciate your line of thought! ;-)
  
  

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