Topic started by Bhaskar (@ spider-wa062.proxy.aol.com) on Fri Jun 19 01:52:00 EDT 1998.
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Friends,
Shall we discuss about some all time
great Lyrics in TFM by any Lyricist independent
of which Era in TFM!
Lyrics should be peculiar in writing, peculiar
in meaning, different in thinking, it has to be
different from the usual ones. It has to be
Unique in its approach/writing!
I shall give a few examples of some Lyrics
which I feel is very different and unique in its
style of writing, meaning and thinking!
Thanks
Bhaskar
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- From: Kanchana (@ spider-td031.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Jun 19 18:45:12 EDT 1998
Just an FYI--not a biggie:
The verse Odi vandhadhum from kodi asaindhadhum is meaningful even if it is not interpreted as a niral niRai aNi.
- From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Fri Jun 19 18:58:21 EDT 1998
kAnchanA,
please explain.
BTW, good to see the oldies (I mean veterans :-)) ) back again.
- From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217)
on: Fri Jun 19 19:01:06 EDT 1998
Sometimes the simplest analogies speak volumes:
azhagu migundha raajakumaari megamaagap poagiraal (sorry guys, the grammar-correct English-Tamil spellings are cramping my flow)
This following song needs to be given in it's entirety because it belongs in such a thread"
vaan nilaa nilaa alla un vaalibam nilaa (2)
thaen nilaa enum nilaa en dhaeviyin nilaa (2)
neeyillaadha naalellaam naan thaeyndha vennilaa
(vaan)
maanillaadha oorilae saayal kannilaa (2)
poovilaadha mannilae jaadaip pennilaa
(vaan)
dheyvam kallilaa oru thoagaiyin sollilaa (2)
ponnilaa pottilaa punnagai mottilaa aval kaattum anbilaa
inbam kattilaa aval dhaegak kattilaa (2)
theedhilaa kaadhalaa oodalaa koodalaa aval meettum pannilaa
(vaan)
vaazhkkai vazhiyilaa oru mangaiyin oliyilaa (2)
oorilaa naattilaa aanandham veettilaa aval nenjin aettilaa
sondham irulilaa oru poovaiyin arulilaa (2)
ennilaa aasaigal ennilaa kondadhaen adhaich cholvaay vennilaa
(vaan)
- From: Bhaskar (@ spider-tb034.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Jun 19 19:14:42 EDT 1998
Udhaya:
Ippo dhaan I was typing this song adhukulla
neenga mundhikuteenga hhhmmmmm, competition
adhigam aayiduchu..... :-)))
Arul:
Neengalum vandhu viteergala ? Ini dhooL dhaan! :-)
Kanchana:
Thanks for the correction and the NNI expansion :-)
- From: Kanchana (@ spider-td061.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Jun 19 19:22:19 EDT 1998
Two more classics with wordplay similar to vaan nilaa (repeat mentions):
1. aththikkaai kaai kaai aalangaai vennilavae
2. paarthaen siriththaen
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Fri Jun 19 20:45:28 EDT 1998
One more on wordplay, this time by Vaali
Paal Thamizh paal ennum ninaippaal, vantha thudipaal..
An old song that has always appealed to me as a uraiyaadal rather than poetry is:
Unnai ninaikaiyiley, kanney
I know Ramki will oppose this, but one of my favourite "conversation" song is:
Punnagai mannan poovizhi Kannan especially the lines, athu bommai kalyaanam, ithu oonmai kalyaanam... depicting great sorrow.
- From: Bhaskar (@ ww-tj03.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Jun 19 20:57:16 EDT 1998
IdhO andha Vegetable song :-)))
Padam: Pava mannippu
Lyrics : Kannadhasan
Music : MSV/TKR
Padiyavar: PS & TMS, PBS & Jamuna Rani
Indha paadal enna verum kaai kaai-yaa irukku
kaekka dhaan nalla irukku aanaal meaning
paarthaal onnumae sariyaa puriya mataengudhae!
Atthikaai kaai kaai
Aalangaai vennilavae!
Thithikkai kaayadhae
Ennai pOl pennallavO!
Nee ennai pOl pennallavO!
TMS:
Atthikaai kaai kaai
Aalangaai vennilavae!
Itthikkai kaayadhae
En uyirum nee allavO!
Nee en uyirum nee allavO!
Kannikkaai aasaikkai
Kaadhal konda paavaikkaai
Angaekkaai avaraikkai
Mangai endhan kovaikkai!
Madhulangai aanalum
eNNulangaai aagumO!
Ennai nee kaayadhae
En uyirum neeallavO!
PS:
Thithikkai kaayadhae
Ennai pOl pennallavO!
TMS:
Iravukkaai uravukkaai
Yaengum indha ezhaikkaai!
Neeyumkkaai Nidhamumkkaai
Naeril nirkkum ivalaikkaai!
Uravungaai aanaalum
Paruvangaai aagumO!
Ennai nee kaayadhae!
En uyirum nee allavO!
PS & TMS:
Atthikaai kaai kaai
Aalangaai vennilavae!
Itthikkai kaayadhae
En uyirum nee allavO!
Elakkai vaasanai pOl
Engal ullam vaazhaikkai!
Saadhikkai pentagam pOl
Thanimai inbam kanindhakaai!
Sonnadhellam vilangayO
Thoodhu vilangaai vennilaa!
Ennai nee kaayadhae
En uyirum nee allavO!
Atthikaai kaai kaai
Aalangaai vennilavae!
Itthikkai kaayadhae
En uyirum nee allavO!
Ullamellam milagaaiyO
Ovvoru paer suraikkaiyO!
Vellarikkaai pilandhadhu pOl
Vennilavae sirithaaiyO!
Osaiyenai kaayaadhae!
Kotraavarangaai vennilaa!
Iruvarai nee kaayadhae!
Thanimaiyilaengaai vennilaa!
Object Oriented Analysis & Design Phase
Indha paadalla vara meaningless Kaai's
Ellamae orE podalangaaiyaa irukku :-))
1. Thithikkaai
2. Itthikkaai
3. kaNNikkaai
4. Aasaikkaai
5. Angaekkaai
6. eNNulangaai
7. ezhaikkaai
8. Neeyumkkaai
9. Nidhamumkkaai
10. Ivalaiykkaai
11. Uruvangaai
12. Paruvangaai
13. Saadhikkaai
Indha paadalla vara Literal Kaai's
1. Atthikkaai
2. Aalangaai
3. Paavaikkaai
4. Avaraikkaai
5. Kovaikkaai
6. Vazhaikkai
7. Surakkaai
8. Vellarikkaai
9. Kotraavarangaai
Indha paadalla vara "Unexplainable" Kaai's
1. Elakkaai
2. Milagaai
Indha paadalla vara "Meaningful" Kaai's
1. Iravukkaai (For night)
2. Uravukkaai (For relation)
3. Ezhaikkaai (For poor)
4. Kanindhakaai (ripening)
5. VilagaayO (Understand)
6. Thoodhu vilangaayO (Convey the message)
7. Kaayaadhae (Don't hate me)
8. Thanimayilengaai (Thanimayil yaengaai)
Idhai ellam mothamaa pottu paartha meaning
engae engaeyO poi vidugirathu....... :-))))
- From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217)
on: Fri Jun 19 21:59:12 EDT 1998
Bhaskar, you must be on an energy boost! Way to go! Let me try the two unexplainable kais:
1)"Elakkai Vaasanai Pol endhan uLLam vazhakkai"
(For my heart to smell wonderful like elakkai and exist. The Vazhakkai is not the vazhaikai vegetable but it takes on the meaning: vazhvatharkaaga)
2)"Ullamelaamilagaiyo ovvoru paer thunaikkayo"
(this should be understood as ullam ellam "ilagayo" as in "aren't you melting" not "milagayo" as in the vegetable "chilli".)
Strictly IMHO. Scholars can correct whatever I have misinterpreted.
- From: RV (@ 1cust34.tnt2.sfo2.da.uu.net)
on: Fri Jun 19 22:55:38 EDT 1998
Ponnezhil Pootthadhu Pudhu Vanil
Ven Pani Thoovum Nilave Nil
En Manath Thottatthu Vannap Paravai
Sendradhu Enge Sol Sol Sol
Rombavum arumaiyana kavidhai. Just see this stanza.
Thennai Vanatthinil Unnai Karam Thottu
Ennatthai Sonnavan Vadugiren
Ennatthai Sonnavan Vadugiren
Unniru Kan Pattu Punpatta Nenjatthil
Un pattuk Kai pada Padugiren
Hope somebody remembers all the lines...
These two songs very nicely use the raga names.
Vendriduven - Endha Nattaiyum
Ragatthal Vendriduven
Oru Naal Podhuma
- From: muthax (@ 1cust15.tnt1.durham.nc.da.uu.net)
on: Fri Jun 19 23:18:52 EDT 1998
RV A great pick!
especially the second stanza
where it comes as
Un iru kan pattu pun patta nenjathil
un pattu kai pada padugiren....
there the TMS voice would added so many feathers to the lyrics as well as music.
I feel the credit for this song goes to TMS.
another for the vaarthai vilayatu song....
endha oor endravanae ....
can anyone submit the full lyrics...
in that it comes something like
karuvoor il vazhnthirunthen........
and finishesh as kaalaioor vandhadainthen.
implies the youth's life cycle.
vaa kannadasa vaaa....
muthax
- From: Kanchana (@ spider-te074.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Jun 19 23:26:41 EDT 1998
Bhaskar:
unga aththikkaai explanation'ai paarththu enakku sirippu! naan innum konjam explain paNNattumaa?
- From: mannAru (@ ns.arraycomm.com)
on: Fri Jun 19 23:31:42 EDT 1998
Bhakthi alai veesuvadhAl indha pAdalgal.
I am very much impressed by these lyrics.
Simple and upto the point.
ondRAnavan uruvil irandAnavan
uruvAna senthamizhil moondRAnavan
..... vedhathil nAngAnavan
namashivAya ena aindhAnavan
inba chuvaihalil ArAnavan
innisai swrangalil yEzhanavan
...
pathanavan nenjil paRRAnavan
panniru kai vElavanai petRAnavan.
Also the lyrics for the song
"aridhu aridhu" song is also great.
The punch song is
"uLLathil nalla uLLam uRangAthenbadhu"
"thAikku nee maganillai
thambikku aNNanillai
oor pazhi yetRAyadA
un pazhi kondEnada
nAnum un pazhi kondEnada"
The great song "Ayiram karangal neeti"
has the linees for praising karnan are great.
- From: Bhaskar (@ spider-wa072.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Jun 19 23:56:37 EDT 1998
Udhaya:
Boost is the secret of my Energy! :-))))
Ooops! It sounded like Ullam ellam
milagaayO which is true is reality :-))))
Maybe in movies Ullam ellam ilagayO is OK!
Kanchana:
Neenga ellam explain seiyya vaendum endru dhaan
naan andha alavukku decode seidhu vaechhu irukkaen
I need to know the meaning of the lines.
RV:
Nice song, I shall check whether I have it my
collection!
Muthax:
Your song endha oor also I shall check in my
collection and post it here if I have.
- From: Ramki (@ pm062-26.spindler.wmich.edu)
on: Sat Jun 20 00:00:46 EDT 1998
RV: remaining lines(bhaskar poidren poidren adikkadhennga)
munnam en ullathil mukkani chakkarai
alli kodutha pon maadam engae
alli kodutha pon maadam engae
kinnam nirambida chengani chaarunna
munvandha sevvandhi maalai engae
pon ezhil poothadhu thalaiva vaa
ven pani thoovum iraiva vaa
un malar thotatthu vanna paravai
vandhadhingae vaa vaa
sendhalir manrathil senthamizh kankondu
vandhadhu ponvandu paadi kondu
vandhadhu ponvandu paadi kondu
mannavan ullathil sondhakondadida
...............
un manam enbadhu en manam endrapin
ennidam kobam kolluvadho
ennidam kobam kolluvadho
ondril ondraanapin
thannai thandhaanapin
unnidam naan enne solluvadho
Panchu arunachalam at his best
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Sat Jun 20 00:04:13 EDT 1998
As Kanchana mentioned, it would be nice to have
some discussions aprt from keying in lyrics.
Kanchana:
andha aruNagirinaadhar paadalin transliteration...
muththaiththiru paththith thirunagai
aththaikkiRai saththich charavaNa
muththikkoru viththuk kurubara enavOdhum
mukkatparamaRkuch churudhiyin
muRpattadhu kooRpith thiruvaru
muppaththumu varkkath thamaruru madipENap
paththuththalai thaththak kaNaithodu
otraikkiri maththaip porudhoru
pattappagal vattath thigiriyi viravaagap
paththaRkira taththaik kadaviya
pachchaippuyal mechchath thaguporuL
pakshaththodu rakshith tharuLvadhu morunaaLE
thiththiththeya voththap paripura
nirththappadham vaiththup payaravi
thikkotkana dikkak kazhukodu kzhudhaadath
thikkuppari attap payiravar
thokkuththogu thokkuth thoguthogu
chithrappavu rikkuth thirikada enavOdhak
koththuppaRai kottak kaLamisai
kukkukkuru kukkuk kukukuku
kuththippudhai pukkup pidiyena mudhukoogai
kotputrezha natpatravuNarai
vettippuliyittuk kulagiri
kuththuppada voththup poravala perumaaLE
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