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Vani Jayaram's songs

Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
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I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)

"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."

Wow! Beautiful voice!

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Neel's VJ Songs

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Responses:

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• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.225) on: Tue Aug 6 05:08:10 EDT 2002
  
  I did it. Yes. I listened the song "Sri Devi" today. wow! great song.
  
  continuation to my previous posting. even "muthuk kullika vaareehala" visited hfm also.
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.225) on: Tue Aug 6 05:10:32 EDT 2002
  
  funny incident about "Muthuk Kullika". I was singing?! that song some months back. My northie friend had heard the same song in hindi with tamiz words. he too started singing "Mutta Kudika Vaarahala". :-)) Later I explained the difference in the meaning. :-))
  
  
• From: AVR (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Tue Aug 6 06:56:04 EDT 2002
  
  VENGAYAM:
  
  In Hindi The angry young man spelt the doom for music in Hindi ( MKS not withstanding)
  
  Who is MKS?
  
  Not only the angry young man, but even RDB,L-P and above all Kishore Kumaar were the Saturn influence on HFM? :-)
  
  
• From: AVR (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Tue Aug 6 06:56:34 EDT 2002
  
  Add in Raajesh Khannaa also, please. :-)
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.172) on: Tue Aug 6 07:11:12 EDT 2002
  
  MKS= Mukkadar ka Sikkandar?
  
  
• From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.219) on: Tue Aug 6 07:24:23 EDT 2002
  
  Saravanan,
  
  I've posted some queries to you in two other threads:
  
  1. Remembering Non-IR songs of the 70' s & 80's
  2.Extremely rare songs
  
  Pl. see them. With your data bank, I am sure you'll crack them easily!
  
  
• From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.219) on: Tue Aug 6 07:24:38 EDT 2002
  
  Saravanan,
  
  I've posted some queries to you in two other threads:
  
  1. Remembering Non-IR songs of the 70' s & 80's
  2.Extremely rare songs
  
  Pl. see them. With your data bank, I am sure you'll crack them easily!
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.67) on: Wed Aug 7 04:25:05 EDT 2002
  
  Yes MKs is Muqadar ka sikandar.
  No AVR , Rajesh Khanna movies right upto namak haram had good songs.But AB put an end both to music & R Khanna. KKumar is the closest to a genius in Film Industry. But when the hero either talks to cockaroch, lizard, frog or whatever in drunken stupor or has a one to one with God what do you expect. Music takes the back seat. So in the 70s music became hits after the movies became hits- saturation effect. much like the title songs of serials these days. hear(!) today & gone tomorrow!
  
  
• From: Rgp (@ 61.11.83.215) on: Wed Aug 7 05:36:57 EDT 2002
  
  Vengayam,
  You are somewhat correct.But it should be 50s upto mid 60s(not only late 50s)should be the best period in TFM. I fail to understand how people rate 70s as the best period. Early 70s okay. But for IR's entry in mid 70s, 70s would have been the beginning of the end of TFM-disastrous indeed.KVM became completely out of touch,moved to Telugu field to spoil that also, MSV, complete depletion of grey matter, all tunes exhausted, no big banners and most of the films with low budget, all middle-aged heroes and heroines, dearth of new singers, repeated voices of TMS,PS,SPB,LRE,VJ in almost all films,etc., a walking song for Sivaji must and always monotonous,absolutely no variety. Only IR and a new crop of directors/artistes changed the scenario. VB did some good work but he also lacked variety but only a melody maker. V.Kumar did not have enough opportunity to work though talented. IR made both VB and VK go completely out of scene, pathetic. S-G good produce some good numbers but they could also produce hits only in 80s. Comments, Saravanan/Kik.
  
  
• From: Ragapravaham Sundar (@ 61.11.83.215) on: Wed Aug 7 05:38:52 EDT 2002
  
  The above thesis is mine dear friends.
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.164) on: Wed Aug 7 08:50:48 EDT 2002
  
  We now come to 1976. We had earlier seen the meteoric rise of VJ and how all the top ranking MDs of the period vied with one another in giving her challenging and memorable songs. MSV, who was still the monarch among the MDs, had infused fresh sound to his music by making a winning combination with her. VJ was singing for the older heroines- KRV, JJ, as well as the next generation-Sujatha, Latha, Manjula, Srividya, Jayachitra--. And winning the exalted National Award as well, at the threshold of 1976, she looked all set to fly higher and higher—
  
  But,
  as we all know, 1976 was a watershed year for tfm, for it marked the arrival of Illayaraja. Tfm would never be the same again. In fact, many tend to view tfm in two distinct timeframes- Pre-IR and Post-IR. The arrival of Illayaraja had far reaching consequences.
  
  MSV found himself suddenly removed from centre stage (though he would continue to give many excellent songs for some more years). VB, who had 6 films in 1975, had only 2 in 1976 and the numbers dwindled as the years went by. Soundaryame varuga varuga (1980) was his swansong in tfm. V Kumar, who showed so much promise, found his career abruptly cut short. KVM would continue to show flashes of his former self in a few films here and there, but he had plenty of films in Telugu. SG were the only ones not really affected- they never had any pretensions to greatness- they were all along working for small-budget/ B- grade films (with some excellent exceptions, of course)– and these films continued to fall on their lot in greater numbers.
  
  So, steadily and surely, Illayaraja became ‘The Name Above The Title’ –No MD had wielded so much power before. Most of the big banners, big films, new-wave directors, and many of the veteran ones too, latched on to him.
  
  And with IR, came SJ with an emphatic bang. She had waited in the sidelines for too long and this was the moment she was waiting for. IR was her messiah to glory, fame and critical acclaim. With ‘Machanai Paartheengala’ and ‘Annakiliye Unnai theduthey’, overnight she got the adulation and recognition which had eluded her for 20 years- (Her first song was released in 1957). Janaki had arrived, finally. And she would only grow from strength to strength, and would firmly hang on to the numero uno position for at least the next decade.
  
  However, she would never monopolise the field the way PS did in the 60s. Though she was IR’s prima donna, there were only a handful of films in which she was the only female singer. In most of IR’s films, SJ would share the honours with one or more of others like PS, VJ, Jency, SPS, BSS and UR. And in many of IR’s big hits, SJ was completely excluded, but these were stray exceptions. SJ would always be a perennial presence in IR’s music. And with IR firmly backing her, other MDs too would start give her songs in greater numbers. In fact MSV would give her more songs in the next 7-8 years, than what he had given her in the last 20 years!
  
  This, to a great extent, affected VJ’s growth. As all the MDs who patronised her gradually lost their relevance, VJ’s songs too would gradually reduce in number, though not in allure. However IR gave VJ some of her best songs in these years.
  
  Let us now trace VJ’s songs in 1976:
  
  41.Kannan Kovil Paravai ithu- Akka- MSV
  
  
  ‘Full many a flower is born to blush unseen,
  And waste its sweetness on the desert air’
  
  I can never, never understand why this magnificent song did not hit the popularity charts. Did the song of the Annakili stifle the voice of this Kannan kovil paravai?
  
  Akka, I remember, starred KRV and Jaiganesh. I remember seeing a record of the film, the cover showing KRV sitting as though giving a cutcheri. Maybe she tried to do another MRB? Can anyone who has seen the film throw more light on the story?
  
  Kannan Kovil Paravai ithu
  Karunai mannan deepam ithu
  Annal kadalin odam ithu
  Adhu thaan ippodhu paaduvathu
  
  Brindavanathin mullai ithu
  Perumaan tholin killai ithu
  Krishna nadhiyin vellam ithu
  Adhu thaan ippodhu paaduvathu
  
  Devaki maindan adimai ithu
  Andha devanukke ini udamai ithu
  Yadhava, Madhavan maalai ithu
  Adhu thaan ippodhu paaduvathu
  
  Gopiar paadum geetham idhu
  Gokula veenayin naadham ithu
  Arjunan ariyaa Geethai ithu
  Adhu thaan ippodhu paaduvathu
  
  Bama Rukmani paadham ithu
  Paarijaatham vazhangiyathu
  Avanai nambiya paavai ithu
  Adhu thaan ippodhu paaduvathu—
  
  A great Cutcheri song, with the usual accompaniments of violin, mirudangam, ghatam and tampoora. VJ at her classical best, her training assisting her in no small measure. The entire song is punctuated by spellbinding and swift swara sojourns (especially towards the end) and amazing alaaps. The brighas are reminiscent of the great S Varalakshmi in her prime. Also mention must be made of the subtle variations in each repetition of the refrain ‘Athu thaan ippodhu paaduvathu’. Definitely among VJ’s best songs. In fact I would not hesitate to rate this right along with ‘Ezhu swarangalukkul’ and ‘Sugamaana Ragangalaey”.
  
  Please help in identifying the Raga.
  
  Neel, Some time back you had wondered at VJ’s exclusion from Krishnaganam.
  Don’t worry on that count, this song is equal to all the songs of Krishnanganam put together. Maybe Kannadasan and MSV felt that too!!!
  
  Many may recognise the similarity in structure, which this song shares with the pathos filled ‘Deviyin kovil paravai ithu, Thirunaal ettrum deepam ithu’-SJ, from
  ‘Avalukkendru oru manam’.Both songs are by Kannadasan and tuned by MSV.
  While the line ‘Athu thaan ippodhu paaduvathu’ recurs at the end of each verse,
  the corresponding 4th line in ‘Deviyin Kovil’ is ‘Kanneer ezhuthum kavithai ithu’.
  However, while ‘Deviyin Kovil’ is an emotional cascade, ‘Kannan Kovil’ is a classic, soulful Krishnaganam.
  
  42.Nilavu theivathu- Akka- MSV.
  
  Another superb solo from the same film. This time, it’s a haunting, philosophical song. Perhaps an asareeri. It has an eerie air about it, which is difficult to fathom, without knowing the situation.
  
  It begins with an arresting humming .
  
  Nilavu theivathu valarvatharkkaaga-
  Nee arivaai kanne
  Neram pirandhaal, ninaiththu nadakkum,
  yen azhuthaai kanne?
  
  The song holds a ray of hope to the damsel in distress and VJ’s voice adopts a tone of concern and soothing solicitude throughout-
  
  Oru naal manadhil amaidhi
  Maru naal adhile thuyaram
  Maaridum, illai maatruvom-
  Unmai yenadi azhavendum?
  
  -Another gem, lost and buried in the sands of time—
  
  
  43.Maalai malar pandhal- Akka- SPB- MSV
  
  ( Duets 2 )
  Unusual duet, as VJ has only Sa ri and no vari!!! I mean she sings only swaras, while SPB gets the words. In way, a forerunner of Sippi irukkuthu (Varumayin Niram sigappu). But a masterful composition by MSV, as usual.
  
  Maalai malar pandhal itta megam
  Mangayidam sangolikkum ragam
  Kodi nagai pinnalitta dhegam
  Gopurathil etri vaitha deepam—
  
  The interlude music follows the path of VJ’s swarams – I love the place where SPB follows VJ with ‘Ival thirumagal,Pugazh tharum Aval, thunai en vaazhvil Avan thandha dheiveegam’.
  
  
  44.Idhu thaan mudhal raathiri- Oorukku Uzhaippavan-KJY-MSV
  
  A MGR starrer, in which he played a dual role, with Vanishri and V Nirmala.
  Usual MGR stuff. What was unusual was that TMS didn’t have a single song in it.
  All the songs were hits and all were by KJY. While ‘Iravu paadagan oruvan vandhaan’-KJY is a short caressing lullaby, ‘Pillai tamizh paadugiren’- KJY is a superb song having a poignant situational value. The other duet ‘Azhagenum oviyam ingey’ -KJY-PS, also became popular.
  
  The song begins with a humming by both the singers.
  
  KJY: Ithu thaan mudhal raathiri
  Anbu kaadhali ennai aadhari
  
  VJ: Thalaiva, konjam kaathiru
  Vetkam ponadhum ennai serthiru
  
  What I don’t understand is VJ too sings ‘Anbu kaadhali ennai aadhari’- Shouldn’t her words be ‘anbu kaadhala ennai aadhari’?
  
  Na Kamarasan sings paeans to the Puratchi Thalaivar in refreshing lyrics:
  
  Kaigalil vaari
  vazhangiya Paari-
  thandhaano nee thandha maadhiri?
  
  - 1976 to continue-
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.164) on: Wed Aug 7 09:01:08 EDT 2002
  
  In 1975, perhaps I should have added that short, lovely swara bit in Apoorva Ragangal. Srividya hums a few swaras while bathing, when Kamal responds with the mirudangam. Surprised, she continues, and she somes out, singing, to see who is playing the mirudangam. An excellent Vani-mirudangam duet!
  
  

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