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Topic started by TFM Group on Tue Jan 27 15:47:28 EST 1998.
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• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Sun Jun 21 00:02:20 EDT 1998
  
  RV:
  
  I don't know about the song that you mentioned.
  It could be just a stage song. If you haven't
  known: Bhaskaradas is the first Lyricist of
  TFM. The first song of TFM,
  
  indhiyargaL nammavarkkuL EnO veeN saNdai
  indhiyarai nammavarai vandhavargaL aatchi seyya
  thandhira ubaayam namadhu suyasaNdaiyE
  
  was written by him for the movie, 'Kalidas'
  (in 1931, I think); it was sung by T.B.Rajalakshmi.
  
  Bhaskaradas was well-known for his 'dEsabhakthi'
  paadalgaL. 1915-il Gandhiji Madurai vandhirundhaar.
  oru podhuk koottaththil GandhiyO parama Ezhai
  sanniyaasi endra paadalai oruvar paadinaar.
  Gandhijiyum adhai rasiththaar. (For those who
  don't know, Gandhi had learnt Tamil reasonably
  well while in South Africa.) Paadalai rasiththu
  vittu Gandhiji, 'yaar ezhudhiyadhu' endru kEtka,
  pakkaththilirundha Sudhdhaanandha Bharathiyaar,
  'namma Bhaskardas' ezhudhiyadhu endru sonnaar.
  'hum kO Bhaskardas sanyaaS banaayaa' endru solli
  siriththaaraam Gandhi.
  
  
• From: RV (@ 1cust154.tnt2.sfo2.da.uu.net) on: Sun Jun 21 00:13:40 EDT 1998
  
  Sathiya Keerthi:
  I had no idea about Bhaskara Das being the first lyricist in TFM. ;-)
  
  The program was APN introducing certain Desabhakthi songs that were popular during the freedom struggle. I am reasonably positive that all these songs were sung on stage. I dont know whether any of them ever made it to TFM. All I remember is this one and another song sung by somebody called Saabjaan about Bhagat Singh.
  
  I am very surprised at the lyrics in Kalidas in 1931 though. How did the censor board that must hv been dominated by Anglophiles let such a lyric go into the movie ?
  
  
• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Sun Jun 21 00:31:05 EDT 1998
  
  RV:
  
  You are dead right about the English censoring.
  Now, it seems Bhaskaradas wrote the 'dEsabhakthi'
  songs, typically in 'puraaNa' movies such as
  'Kalidas', 'vaLLi thirumaNam' etc. Let me give
  two instances from the movie 'vaLLi thirumaNam':
  
  For a scene where vaLLi chases away birds, our man
  Bhaskardas wrote...
  
  vetkamketta veLLai kokkugaLaa
  viratti adiththaalum vaareegaLaa
  
  Then, maaRuvEdaththil vaLayal vitrukkoNdu varum
  Murugan paadum paadalil Bhaskardas ezhudhiyadhu...
  
  vaLaiyal vaangalaiyO ammammaa
  vaLaiyal vaangalaiyO - oru
  maasillaadha indhu swadhEshi vaLaiyal
  
  
  
• From: RV (@ 1cust88.tnt2.sfo2.da.uu.net) on: Sun Jun 21 14:11:58 EDT 1998
  
  SK: That was a nice one. Could you give some more info on Bhaskara Das ? Seems to be a very interesting pioneer.
  
  
• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Jun 22 02:36:24 EDT 1998
  
  
  
  I am giving info from a book on TFM Lyricists.
  
  
  Bhaskardas 1892-il Madurai-yil piRandhavar. adhiga padippillai.
  thamizhil mattum konjam pulamai. yaaridaththum pOi kavidhai
  kaRkavillai. aanaal 16 vayadhinilEyE paadal punaiya aarambiththu
  vittaar. iLamaiyil bhakthip paadalgaLaiyE punaiya aarambiththaar.
  pinnaar dhEsiya iyakkaththin baadhippaal vidudhalaip paadalgaLaip
  paadi veeraraanaar. naadagangaLil ivaradhu paadalgaL muzhangina.
  1915-il ivaradhu mudhal paadal thogudhi, 'Bhakthirasa keerththanaigaL'
  endra peyaril veLi vandhadhu. Bharathikkup piRagu migudhiyaaga
  dhEsabhakthip paadalgaLaip paadiyavar ivar.
  
  naadaga mEdaigaLil ivaradhu paadalgaL pEridam petrana. 'dhEsa bhakthiyE
  mukthiyaam, dheiva sakthiyaam' endra paadalai thaan paadiyapOdhu
  sabaiyOr uNarchchivasap pattu 'Mahathma Gandhi-kku jE!' endru gOsham
  ittadhaaga avvai shaNmugam kooRuvaar. avvaLavu uNarchchi ivaradhu
  paadalgaLil!
  
  Thamizhil vandha mudhal padamaana 'Kalidas'-ilum (1931), 'vaLLi
  thirumaNam' (1933) padaththilum Bhaskardas paadalgaL ezhudhinaar.
  (I have already mentioned these earlier.) 1934-il 'Shakunthala'-vil
  ivaradhu paadalai T.S.Velammal 'lOkamaathaa BharathadhEvi nee vaa
  ennai kaaNa vaa' endru paadinaar. 1937-il 'Devadas' padaththil
  kudiyin siRappai,
  
  dhaaga saanthi aaga neerum dhayavu koorndhE arundhuveer
  snEga bhaavam meeRavE seydhidu maa madhu bhaanamE
  sakthiyidhanaal thaanE varumE dhairya veeryam naaLum tharumE
  
  endru viLakkinaar.
  
  1935-il Bojarajan, Radha Kalyanam, Sathi Akalya aagiya padangaLukku
  paadalgaL ezhudhinaar. avatril, 'purushargaLai nambalaamaa? veRum
  pOkkum pugalum solli poovarai mayakkum', matrum 'ennaiyE nambinOrgaL
  igazhchchiyE koLLa maattaar' endra paadalgaL prabalam. idhupOl,
  'poongaavanamenum pudhumalar chOlai' endrum 'vaaliba kaalam pOla
  adhu anukoolam vaaykkumO' endru 'Sathi Akalya'vil prasiththam.
  
  1936-il 'Chandrahasan' padaththil 'paavai en manam patri eriyudhadi'
  endrum, 'Usha Kalyanam' padaththil 'silaimaaran pazhikaaran',
  'konjum kiLi payilvaay kiLiyE' endrum paadalgaL ezhudhinaar.
  
  'Rajasekaran' endra padaththil dhEsa bhakthiyaiyum dheiva bhakthiyaiyum
  viLakki paadal ezhudhinaar. Hindi paadagar Saigal 'Devadas' padaththil
  ivaradhu paadalai paadi prabalap paduththinaar. 'madhanaa un kaNaiyaal'
  endra paadal prasiththam. ivaradhu paadalil eLiya soRkaL, Osai nayam,
  iniya sandham aagiyavai uLLana. sevikku maduramaaga irundhadhaal ivar
  'Madhura Bhaskaradas' aanaar. ivaradhu iyaRpeyar Vellaichamy. ivaradhu
  veettin peyar Thamizhagam.
  
  Thamizh thirai isaikku 11 aaNdugaL paattezhudhiya Madhura Bhaskaradas
  1942-il maRaindhaar.
  
  
  
• From: RV (@ avntfw.avanticorp.com) on: Mon Jun 22 20:14:55 EDT 1998
  
  SK: Thanks! You should probably put this info on the TFM pages on lyricists too...
  
  
• From: raja m (@ spider-ti033.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Jun 27 23:19:01 EDT 1998
  
  Who is the MD for Bhavani, where PS's song " Naan Paadum Patile Vaan.. adhu yen kanne" appears? Any info on the film?
  
  Thanks
  
  
  
• From: Sathya Kabali (@ ppp-2.ts-9.hp.idt.net) on: Sun Jun 28 13:18:31 EDT 1998
  
  Raja
  
  Bhavani MD MSV.
  
  Jayshankar, Asokan, Nagesh, Vijayakumari, Vanisree, L. Vijayalakshmi nadiththa padam.
  
  kathai, vasanam : K.S.Gopala krishnan.
  
  Direction : T.R.Ramanna.
  
  innum 2 nalla paadalkaL:
  
  intha nilavai naan paarththaal
  athu enakkena vanthathu pOlirukkum
  TMS, Susila, PBS, L.R.Eswari.
  
  punnakaiyil oru poruL vanthathu - TMS
  
  
  maRRa paadalkaL:
  
  saappidaththaan theriyum enakku samaikka theriyaliyE - A.L.Ragavan.
  
  vayathu vantha peNkaL vaalibaththin kaNgaL - L.R.E &co
  
  mallikai maanvizi thEnmozi enRellaam - LRE.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ pm062-09.spindler.wmich.edu) on: Sun Jun 28 16:02:07 EDT 1998
  
  Satyakabali ungalukku
  
  'enne paravai siragadithu vinnil parakkindratha'
  
  paadalin varigal therindhaal ezhudhungal please.
  indha paadalin irandu versionoda lyrics ezhudhinnal i will be very happy
  thanks
  
  
• From: raja m (@ spider-tp034.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Jun 28 21:13:19 EDT 1998
  
  Sathiya Kabali:
  
  Thanks
  
  
• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Jun 29 00:12:37 EDT 1998
  
  Ramki:
  
  Akka-vukku badhilaaga naan ezhudhaREn. I know the
  lyrics only for the TMS version. I think, in the
  movie, 'Karthigai Dheepam', Ashokan sings the
  song to Chandrakantha.
  
  
  eNNap paRavai siRagadiththu viNNil paRakkindradhaa
  un imaigaLilE uRakkam vara kaNgaL maRukkindradhaa
  
  thendral paadum thaalaattil - nee
  inbam peRavillaiyaa
  iravu theerndhidum varaiyil vizhiththirundhaalE
  thunbam tharavillaiyaa
  un thuyar kaNdaal en uyir ingE
  thudippadhu theriyalaiyaa
  uNmai aRindhum uLLam varundha
  nadappadhu thavaRillaiyaa
  eNNap paRavai...
  
  oonjalaip pOla poongkaram neetti
  arugil nerungidavaa - unnai
  urimaiyinaalE kuzhandhaiyaip pOlE
  aLLi aNaiththidavaa
  annaiyaip pOlE unnudal thannai
  varudik koduththidavaa
  nee amaidhiyudan thuyil koLLum
  azhagai rasiththidavaa
  eNNap paRavai...
  
  
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ pm062-09.spindler.wmich.edu) on: Mon Jun 29 00:46:03 EDT 1998
  
  Thanks a lot Sathya keerthi. Idhu kannadasan ezhudhiya paadala??
  
  
• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Jun 29 00:58:03 EDT 1998
  
  Ramki:
  
  Yes. The song is by Kannadhasan. MD: Sudharsanam.
  paadalukkaaga padaththai dhayavu seydhu paarththu
  vidaadheergaL. It is a lousy movie!
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ dante.cs.wmich.edu) on: Mon Jun 29 13:26:06 EDT 1998
  
  Sathya keerthi thanks for the info and warning:))
  
  
• From: Sathya Kabali (@ ppp-23.ts-8.hp.idt.net) on: Mon Jun 29 18:24:43 EDT 1998
  
  Ramki,
  
  Both versions TMS, Susila - same lyrics.
  Lyriccs for Kaarththikai deepam : Alangudi somu.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ pm062-05.spindler.wmich.edu) on: Mon Jun 29 19:45:50 EDT 1998
  
  Thanks Sathya kabali for the info. I hava another question..do you know from which film the following song is from(PSuseela is the singer)
  
  neeyum naanum ondru oru nilaiyil parthaal indru
  
  
• From: Manisekaran (@ wmu-51-155.tm.net.my) on: Tue Jun 30 04:29:06 EDT 1998
  
  Ramki,
  Neeym Naanum Onru is from Koduthuvaithaval an MGR movie, picturised on EV Saroja. MD is KVM
  vanakkam.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ pm062-24.spindler.wmich.edu) on: Tue Jun 30 10:03:11 EDT 1998
  
  Manisekaran thanks a lot, i have been looking for this info for almost 10 yrs..Thanks a lot again for the info
  
  
• From: RV (@ 1cust73.tnt1.scl1.da.uu.net) on: Wed Jul 1 03:10:34 EDT 1998
  
  Seeing the name EV Saroja reminded me...
  
  There is a song picturised on EVS in an MGR movie. EVS does a superb dance ( dappangutthu ) for this number. MGR & Chandrababu are in disguise and there is Balaiah too. The song goes something like this.
  
  Kutthum Kundhalikkum Gumbalaik Kandu Gumaikkum
  Kooda Vanda Soorap Puli Dabaikkum
  
  Does anyone know anything about this song ?
  
  
  In the same movie ( I think ), MGR comes dressed up as a woman in a song picturised on TR Rajakumari. I dont remember anything else about this song. With these sparse indicators, can someone tell me the song ?
  
  Also, there is another old song
  
  TMS: Ennaik Kadalitthal Mattum Poduma
  PS: Un Kaigalil Varavum Venduma
  TMS: En Kaigalil Vandal Poduma
  PS: Nee Kettadai Tharavaum Venduma
  
  Any light on this one ?
  
  
• From: Manisekaran (@ bat-50-29.tm.net.my) on: Wed Jul 1 04:32:43 EDT 1998
  
  Kuthum Konthalikkum is in Puthumaippithan.The song starts off as "azhagaippaar, pazhagippaar, en anbe ennai paar". The moment MGR and babu come in the song turns to be in praise of MGR. It is one of the earliest song in praise of MGR. The other song where MGR comes as a female is "Aiya Yaarukku Venum intha Minnal Vettu." How about "ullam Rendum onnu nam uruvam thane rendu" in the same film? That is the first film showing a couple floating to the planet Saturn.G. Ramanathan is the MD.
  
  Ennai Kathalithaal mattum pothuma is in Asai Mugam picturised on Makkal Thilakam and Kannaduthu Paingkili Sarojadevi.MD is Sm Subbiah Naidu.
  Vanakkam.
  
  

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