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Yesterday - Illayarajah Today - A.R. Rahman Tomorrow - Yuvan Shankar Raja

Topic started by Pras (@ 66.185.84.71) on Sat Jan 25 08:43:29 EST 2003.
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Who Do You Think Is The Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow MD of TFM?

I think its:
Yesterday - Illayarajah
Today - A.R. Rahman
Tomorrow - Yuvan Shankar Raja

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Responses:

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• From: Admin (@ 128.148.68.57) on: Thu Jul 17 16:13:49 EDT 2003
  
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• From: Admin (@ 128.148.68.57) on: Thu Jul 17 16:14:31 EDT 2003
  
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• From: Admin (@ 128.148.68.57) on: Thu Jul 17 16:15:29 EDT 2003
  
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• From: Admin (@ 128.148.68.57) on: Thu Jul 17 16:16:43 EDT 2003
  
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• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.131.157) on: Thu Jul 17 17:04:43 EDT 2003
  
  V,
  Well now that ill forget the visuals i saw with the audio. ill go ahead and experiment the audio alone. the audio contained lyrics too and VM had written verses like
  ....KARPOORA THEGAM THAAN,
  KAADHAL VEPPAM PATTU KARAIVATHENNA...
  ORU VIRAL THOTTU VAIKA VAA
  UYIR VARAI SUTTU VAIKA VAA...
  a person with inadequate tamil knowledge wont understand the subtler meanings in these verses. but being a tamilian who respects VM for his achievements in pudhu kavidhai i cannot keep my ears shut when hearing verses like these. definitely it suggests some erotic sensations to me.
  now dont come up and say forget the lyrics too and listen to the music alone.
  a TFM song in its totality comprises of visuals, lyrics and music. and a composer will be well ahead given the picture abt the lyrics,situation and wat kind of feel it shud giv. if u still assert that ARR didnt compose that song to be an erotic no. but only as any normal dance no. then he was a failure as of that song.
  and for ur information IR has given many of such nos. where the eroticism was subtle too.he is a genius in both forms subtle or open.
  listen to the song AAyiram thamarai frm the film aalaigal oyvadillai
  the song goes like this:
  PALLAVĪ:
  AAYIRAM THAMARAI MOTTUKALE VANTHU AANANDAH KUMMIGAL KOTTUGLANE....
  INGU RENDI JAADHI MALLIGAI THOTTU KOLLUM KAAMAN PANDIGAI
  KOYILIL KAADHAL THOLUGAI[ WOW VAIRAMUTHU MIXING UP KOIL AND THOLUGAI TO MAKE US UNDERSTAND THE LOVERS R FRM DIFFERNT RELIGIONS]
  SARANAM1:
  OHHHHH. KOTHU MALARE AMUDHAM KOTTUM MALARE[ WHERE FRM AMRUT WILL DROP BUDDIES]
  INGU THENAI OOTRU IDHU THEEYIN OOTRU[ GR8 VM!!!! DO WE KNOW WHERE IS THE SPRING OF FIRE? AND TO PUT OUT THE FIRE WAT DO WE DO? POUR HONEY BUDDIES]
  ULLIRUKUM VERVAI VANTHU NEERVARKUM[ WHY DO WE SWEAT?]
  PULLARIKUM MENI ENGUM POO POOKUM[ WHY DOES THE FLOWER BLOSSOMS?]
  ADIKADI THAAGAM VANTHU AALAI KUDIKUM[ EXCELLENT VM - WE DRINK TO QUENCH OUR THIRST. WAT HAPPENS WHEN THE THIRST IS SO OVERPOWERING THAT IT DRINKS US? NO MORE WORDS TO PRAISE THE POETIC GENIUS]
  SARANAM2:
  AAAEEEE VEETU KILIYAE KOONDAI VITTU THAANDI VANTHIYAE
  ORU KAADAHL BANAM RENDU THOLIL YERUM
  PULVELIYIN MEEDHU RENDU POOMALAI
  ONDARAI ONDRU SOODUM IDHU PONMEDAI
  KAL VADIYUM POOKAL THANGAL KAAMBAI MARAKUM
  now listen to the music it is erotic all the way and the visuals too r excellent.a complete erotic song.
  and if ARRs fans r not able to understand the eroticism in thee thee its their mistake.cud we term ARR a failure in that song.
  
  
• From: V (@ 147.129.99.180) on: Thu Jul 17 17:28:51 EDT 2003
  
  Ha Ha!
  
  Again you have failed to point out why the Thee Thee song can be termed erotic. The song was given a beautiful passionate flavor by the use of Naveen Kumar's "gamakkam" in the flute and DA Srinivasan's Thala Jadhis and walking bass!
  
  So ARR is to be blamed for writing those lyrics? ARR had wonderfully succeeded in bringing out the passion between Prashanth and Heera by using graceful musical elements like a fast flute, walking bass, incredibly fast thala jadhis etc.
  
  He did not resort to cheap orgasms or "overplay of vulgar innuendos" to convey passion of lovers!
  
  I will give you another chance! You had come up with the statement "the song is good in setting up the foreplay session while the climax occurs too fast[thagida thagida thalangutha - [sounds similar to wham bam thank u mam] "
  
  How are you going to defend this? Go on....
  
  Point out something that ARR has done in the song that can be termed as vulgar! Look at his creativity! Not a single unfavorable or vulgar innuendo that suggests passion!
  
  Full Marks all the way to ARR!!
  
  rajasaranam you may go on... But try to answer what ARR has done wrong here please and not what the lyricist, camera man, actor, director have done...
  
  
• From: V (@ 147.129.99.180) on: Thu Jul 17 17:32:05 EDT 2003
  
  "a TFM song in its totality comprises of visuals, lyrics and music. and a composer will be well ahead given the picture abt the lyrics,situation and wat kind of feel it shud giv."
  
  
  agreed 100 %!
  
  But ARR for his part (not for lyrics, not for visuals) has been extremely decent and has yet brought out the passion successfully! No Orgasms !
  
  I should also commend PC Sreeram for the way he handled the camera in the interludes which made the song very powerful!
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.131.157) on: Thu Jul 17 17:32:20 EDT 2003
  
  iam not able to write the full lyrics of that song[thee thee] as iam not able to follow it while listening to the song. some words r overshadowed by the music.may be the lyrics sheet wud be helpful,but its a pathetic situation that a MD puts his fans into.this has never happened to me in an IRs composition. thats one of the area ARR has to correct himself.
  
  
• From: V (@ 147.129.99.180) on: Thu Jul 17 17:41:34 EDT 2003
  
  I dont think he should correct himself for that. Even singer Karthik has answered this criticism and has said that in current times "the sound has overtaken the other elements, it's inevitable."
  
  I agree with him!
  
  It is undeniable that in the PRE-IR era when sigers like TMS and PBS sang the lyrics were most audible. It has been degrading ever since but now it is worst!
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.131.157) on: Thu Jul 17 17:46:16 EDT 2003
  
  so u accept the failure of ARR. thx.
  cos he was not able to deliver wat the director wanted, while all others delivered wat the director wanted.
  lyricist- for writing the song with erotic reference
  cameraman - for handling the camera well to sahke up the eroticism
  choreographer- for those powerful moments of embrace betn the actors
  actors- for performing and expressing the mood
  art director- for creating the stage as a waterfilled and erotic location for the performance
  costume designer - for giving a rich wet black saree tied low to the female and the hero with shirts open
  make up man- for the looks of heera and prasanth
  lightmen[who works with the photographer]- for setting up such an ambience
  and all the others who strived hard to make that song erotic.
  
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.131.157) on: Thu Jul 17 17:49:04 EDT 2003
  
  and i accept that ARR has done nothing wrong in that song to seem erotic.lolssssss
  
  
• From: Admin (@ 128.148.68.57) on: Thu Jul 17 17:49:49 EDT 2003
  
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• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.131.157) on: Thu Jul 17 17:56:34 EDT 2003
  
  and for the nxt part of mudslinging
  u say that lyrics were audible well in PRE-IR era and has been degrading ever since. correct that to PRE-ARR era, else show me one example frm IRs 4000+ compositions where u wer not able to follow the lyrics.
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.131.157) on: Thu Jul 17 18:11:27 EDT 2003
  
  after reading ur post a follow up on that.had i ever said that song to be vulgar????? i said it is erotic.my interpretation of the slow tune and fast jaadhis made me understand that it conveys slow foreplay and a fast climax. did i say forepaly and cliamx r vulgar?????
  its ur understanding that they r vulgar [ btw how old r u ?? ru still in ur teens who says cheeeee athuvaaaaa] ur own statement that the music conveys the passion betn lovers expalins that it can be termed as an erotic no. go and find out the meaning of passion - one of the meaning in my dictionary says - A feeling of strong sexual desire. isnt strong sexual desire erotic??????
  
  
• From: V (@ 141.149.235.21) on: Thu Jul 17 18:27:01 EDT 2003
  
  Haha
  
  You were too quick to claim that ARR has failed in THEE THEE!
  
  I said ARR had won the test by making a passionate song that gelled with the rest of the erotic elements into making a whole package that was audio-visually erotic! ARR brought out the passion so wonderfully! So tell me where id he fail rajasaranam?/
  
  Thanks for ur effort to describe the contribution of the other technicians! Even the make-up man must be commended for not putting a very plainly open erotic make-up like a lipstick kiss mark or something on prashanth's face!
  
  Ok one more chance. go on...
  
  
• From: V (@ 141.149.235.21) on: Thu Jul 17 18:28:39 EDT 2003
  
  "and for the nxt part of mudslinging "
  
  
  mudslinging?? what??
  
  Is it a crime to say that the songs of TMS and PBS were more lyrically audible and appealiong than the IR era??
  
  So anything that is good and not related to IR is mud-slinging? Phew!
  
  
  
• From: V (@ 141.149.235.21) on: Thu Jul 17 18:30:53 EDT 2003
  
  I am saying that the times have changed and the sound has overtaken all other elements! Thats what even karthij said.
  
  Take a TMS or PBS song. The emotion and lyrics are conveyed upfront. But even during IR's era there was too much noise appearing in the songs. "Varavum Selavum....undu" I have no idea what he said in "Raja Rajadhi" in Agni Nakshatram. Too fast-paced and too overwhelmingly noisy for lyrics.
  
  But I agree that after IR this case has even worsened!
  
  

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