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- From: bb (@ 12.234.180.182)
on: Tue Sep 17 03:55:28 EDT 2002
Song of the Day: KanniyavaL naaNugiraaL from Thangak Kalasam.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/kanni.rm
A very rare gem! MD is MSV, Sung by KJY and KSC.
- Check out the songs that Mano has listed for KJY, including this: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/27870.kjystats.html
BTW, Mano(M) is the ultimate resource on these long lost songs.
- The movie is supposed to be horrible :) From http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/9559.22043.17.57.10.html ,
From: e.hari (@ ww-tf02.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Mar 10 22:50:23 EST 1998
I think his last film is in 90's. I forget
the film name. It has horrible cost, pandiyan
as classical dancer, with suda chandran and
some london based producer/director. Film was dud.
I have no idea about the music, though I am +ve about Vkumar co scoring music for this film.
From: Ramki (@ 141.218.188.189) on: Tue Mar 10 23:33:59 EST 1998
eHari the film is 'thanga thamarai'or somethingand IM very
POSITIVE that the MD is MSV.The only aarudhal factor in the film was music.
VKumars last film was a saritha *rrer(kannamma or something).There were couple of good songs by Rajkumar Bharathi and PSUseela
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ synergy.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Mar 11 00:12:38 EST 1998
Hari and Ramki:
I think you guys are talking about Thanga Kalasam (1988). MD is MSV. It had several
excellent songs:
thaamarai ilaiyE thoodhu sellaayO -- a melody
by R'Bharathy & Chithra
kattu sOththai sumandhukittu -- a good
dappanguththu by SPB/SJ
kanniyavaL naaNugiRaaL -- another melody by
KJJ and Chithra
The movie was atrocious!
From: Ramaswamy Gireesan (@ m42.m59.big.ac.at) on: Wed Mar 11 11:33:14 EST 1998
Atrocious is the right word. Imagine Pandian dancing Bharathanatyam
I can't even imagine :-)
- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74)
on: Tue Sep 17 04:09:53 EDT 2002
bb,
its 'chuttik kuzanthai'
NagaS
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.175)
on: Tue Sep 17 04:29:47 EDT 2002
bb- the song is a forgotten classic creation. The film was easily among MSV's best works in the late 80s. Produced and directed by London Gopal, who, if I remember right, wrote the lyrics as well.
sk has already mentioned the other wonderful songs from the film. Addendum- Engum inbam kaanuthey- a melodious duet by Jayachandran and Chitra.
- From: bb (@ 12.234.180.182)
on: Wed Sep 18 01:31:39 EDT 2002
Song of the Day: VaravENdum oru pozhudhu from KalaikkOyil.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/vara.rm
- An excellent jazz based song by MSV. I think this is one of LRE's best.
- From http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/12428.20873.21:19:54.html ,
From: Sathya (@ ppp-8.ts-1.hp.idt.net) on: Wed Sep 24 10:32:26 EDT 1997
Kanchana:
Kalaikoyil padam patri kEttinga.Sridharin innoru sOkak kaaviyam.IyakkunargaLil munnOdiyaaka Sridharai kuRippida vENdum.thiraikkathai amaippilum,kaatchiyamaippukaLilum puthumaiyaip pukuththiyavar.puthumukangkaLai athikam aRimukam seythavar.Sridharin team iLamaiyin thuLLal,uRchakaththudan irukkum.V.aadaiyil nadiththa Jayalalithavukku,A.oruvan,(MGR productions)Thaaykkuth thalaimakan -Devarin padam(simultaneous aaka nadiththathu)iraNdilum nadippathu siramamaakavE irunthathu.antha alavu thirai ulaka banthaakkaL.(ithu oru kiLaik kathai).
Sridharin padangkaL patri niraiya sollalaam.Sridharukku sOka kathaikaL,kaatchikalin mEl alaathip piriyam uNdu.K.Parisu,Sumai thaangi,Kalaikoyil....
Kalaikoyil mellisai mannarin thayaarippu entru ninaivu.padu thOlviyadaintha padam.muzukka isaik kalaignan patriya kathai.S.V.Subbiah aRputha vENai vidvan.Muthuraman oru anaathai.nalla isai gnanam .avanai Subbiah oru isai mEthaiyaaka,thanakku vaarisaaka uruvaakki ,than makaLaiyum(Chandrakantha-ninaivirukkirathaa)thirumanam seythu vaikkiRaar.padaththil iraNdu paadalkaL C.kanthavudan
naan unnai chErntha selvam
thanga ratham vanthathu vIthiyilE-Balamurali Krishnavin muthal thiraippaadal ithu.
paadalkaL,padam muzukka olikkum vENai Chittibabu.
dEviyar iruvar murukanukku(padam paarkkaathavargaL entha situationai kaRpanai seythiruppaargal?)inthap paadal naattiyakkaari Saroja(Rajshri)paaduvathu.padaththil inthap paattaip paarththu sOkamaaki vittathu.Rajshrikka inthap paadal enRu?
innoru paadal
vara vENdum oru pozuthu-nI
varaamal irunthaal sukam theriyaathu.
yaaru! namma L.R.Esvari paattuthaan!
oru hotelil paadum paadal.
inthap padaththil athikam oliparappaakaatha paadal
muLLil roja kaLLurum roja
kai padaatha roja
kaNmaNi saroja
Rajshri vIttil paadum paadal.PBS,LRE.PBS humming is great!enakku mikavum pidiththa paadalkaLil onRu.
Muthuraman veenaiyai maRanthu,SarojavE kathiyaakak kidanthu....Subbiah iRakka...... pinnaNiyil Chittibabu veeNaiyil pizinthu urukki viduvaar.
anthak kaalaththil sOkap padankaL veRRiyadainthana.ithu En thOlvi enRu theriyavillai.May be Sridhar failed in his selection of the artistes,especially Chandrakantha and Rajshri.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241)
on: Wed Sep 18 02:03:31 EDT 2002
bb:
Iw as thinking of making this gem sotd some day. good to know we think the same way :-)
I wonder if there is any genre which the master composer has left untouched. But at the same time, I also wonder if MSV knew som much about Jazz or if he just gave the tune which was excellently improvised by his illustrious assistants ? Any thoughts on this ?
- From: raja m (@ 24.44.40.244)
on: Wed Sep 18 07:03:27 EDT 2002
bb:
Thanks for the song - LRE is unique and MSV's Jazz based composition - outstanding. I havent heard this song for a very long,long time.
A request :-)
Do you have sandha kavigal from metti sung by bramanandhan?
MS:
I too was wondering how much of the improvisation was suggested by MSV
Thanks
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.165)
on: Wed Sep 18 08:42:54 EDT 2002
MS- MSV was supposed to know all types of music.
At the same time for these type of songs, I feel one of his assistants at that time- Henry Daniel, may have played a major role. Similarly, in the 70s, MSV was assisted by Joseph Krishna, who was supposed to excel in western music.
bb- thanks for the song and the excellent write-up by Sathya. One more bit of information-initially Sridhar and MSV are said to have approached S Balachander to play the Veenai-but he is said to have refused. Chittubabu was only their second choice.
- From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.219)
on: Wed Sep 18 09:06:14 EDT 2002
Friends,
I faintly remember, as a child, to have seen a two word 'nach' review in some Newspaper or magazine: 'Sridharin kolaikkOyil!
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Wed Sep 18 10:10:13 EDT 2002
CV
As Sathya had pointed out the flaw was only on the selection of artists.the movie was ok but considering the classics like Sumaithangi this was a let down.I wonder with songs like this why this movie never got the national award.
Even Karnan got a thums down from our so called "Reviewers" when it was released.Please see the thread "Songs from Karnan".
As usual Sridhar movies n peculiar camera movements and angles intha padathilum undu.
Please let us stay away from discussuions like "Illustrious assitant s contribution" etc.
Sriram Lakshmanan has personally discussed this song with MSV.( I dont know whether SL has mentioned about the conversation earlier in some thread).MSV was thrilled at the mention of this song and asked for his Harmonium (Kondada Pottiya!) and played it immediately.So for a man of his spontanity and calibre MSV s assistants were only incidental...they were just there when it happened.Please ..Please.
- From: hihi:-) (@ 128.111.113.76)
on: Wed Sep 18 14:00:58 EDT 2002
OISG: SL also mentioned that MSV wasn't singing the same way, using totally different chord structure ... therefore, the color 'might' have been provided by assistants ... leaving that aside ... it's one of the fabulous compositions in TFM... another one in the same caliber is TMS's "oh little flower" ... wow! bb: consider making that an sotd some day (SOON :-) ).
- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Wed Sep 18 14:20:58 EDT 2002
aruL, you mean "Oh little fla werrrr" :)
- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Wed Sep 18 14:25:34 EDT 2002
How did LRE compare to the jazz greats at that time? Did she take in anything from the likes of Ella Fritzgerald?
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Thu Sep 19 00:55:56 EDT 2002
Hihi
MSV is a typical Indian-singing-musician with Harmonium.So a different chord could be due the change in his voice over the years and so hardly matters.
- From: bb (@ 12.234.180.182)
on: Thu Sep 19 00:56:14 EDT 2002
Song of the Day: Dhooraththil naan kaNda un mugam from NizhalgaL.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/dhoo.rm
- A masterpiece by IR. The song that won SJ a national award in telugu (sitara). This song was not there in the movie, a good thing, considering how the songs were picturized badly in the movie.
- Lyrics: http://newtfmpage.com/forum/19004.lyrics.html
- More songs that were not picturized: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/2559.11713.19:37:15.html
- raagam gowri manohari.
- More SJ solos for IR: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/27342.6781.13:07:42.html
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.172)
on: Thu Sep 19 01:29:06 EDT 2002
bb- SJ, in a TV interview, commented how much she enjoyed singing this song and also expressed her disappointment that it was not there in the film.
I think, however, she bagged the TN State Govt. award for this song.
Lyrics, I think, by Panju Arunacahalam.
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