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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: manidhan (@ 206.175.176.2) on: Fri Nov 3 17:28:50 EST 2000
  
  Karikalan!!!!!
  
  ennanga innum ungala uyiroda vittu vechirukkanga? ithana neram yarumey (endral...) parkavillaiya indha abandamana pazhi sumathala? appazhikku ilaadha ARR pathi ippadi sonna ungala eppadithan vittargalo!!! :-)
  
  
• From: shysun (@ 202.9.188.95) on: Sat Nov 4 01:37:18 EST 2000
  
  VAAZHGA KARIKALAN,VALARGA UNMAIGAL !
  YES,karikaalan i have been searching for one soul like you for a long time,i am sure this guy arr only copies and not compose.people praise him for being so inspired.
  "swasamae"song from thenaali is such a blatant lift from the hindi superhit by mohd.rafi/mahender kapoor-the song is as follows-
  "din dal jaaye -hai- raat na aaye"i am sure not even arr or spb or anybody can deny this.i have been brickbated by a lot of tfm df'ers for voicing the truth,it is nice to see a fresh guy like you ,we should fight the inspiration virus out of tamil film music,because the identity created to tfm as a whole by maestro illaiyaraaja is being slowly washed away by arr by his so called worldly inspirations.and as a result tfm has become very ordinary and just a fancy,real tfm for us and the world audience come from raaja vis-a vis albums like"hey ram,sedhu,karisakkaattu poovae,bharathy and so on".
  karikaalan keep fighting and i will be with you ,let us also consensuate all other arr inspirations as a seperate thread.bye for now.
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ 63.253.16.145) on: Sat Nov 4 02:08:34 EST 2000
  
  Mr.vetkasooriyan.....'swasamE' and 'Din dal jaayE'? Is it the SPB duet you are referring to? If so, please do clearly mention where it sounds similar to the Hindi song.
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.162) on: Sat Nov 4 03:32:40 EST 2000
  
  ota vai!
  One Chandrabose copy (which I earlier posted in one of the threads) is the lift of `vaishAka sandhyE, nin chuNdilendhE' of `nAdOdikkAtRu' by Shyam (Malayalam) as `poo pooththadhu, yAr pArthadhu' or something like that in a film, which is a possible remake of the MY movie. (Is it `kadhAnAyakan'?)
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185) on: Mon Nov 6 00:40:07 EST 2000
  
  HAve a doubt:
  
  "suththam enbathu namakku" from nammavar sounds too close to "macarena". Which one came first ?
  
  
• From: KITKAT (@ 202.188.82.230) on: Mon Nov 6 01:30:28 EST 2000
  
  MS
  
  Which Macarena? There are 1000 versions, even one by Deva in Kushi:)
  
  
• From: G. Kuppusamy (@ 156.153.255.130) on: Mon Nov 6 05:02:58 EST 2000
  
  One more drop into the ocean...im not sure if anyone had already pointed this out already.
  
  A movie by name idhayathaamarai was made, Karthi & Revathi starrer. The MD was SG. In that one song was heavily inspired from the opening music (a.k.a prelude) of 'manil vantha nilavu' from mouna raagam of IR. Have u noticed it??
  
  Similarly 'Pen alla pen all udha poo' from uzhavan is heavily inspired from 'pesum mani muthhu rojakkal pillaigal yellorum raajakkal' from Neela malargal(?).
  
  One more IR song from soorasamharam 'paadum naeram idhuthaan idhuthaan va va va va...' was copied by none other than Deva in one of his songs (i forgot it...).
  
  
• From: Venki (@ 12.35.64.19) on: Mon Nov 6 13:59:00 EST 2000
  
  Karikalan shysun You are Great! Keep it up. Karikalan your sprit matches almost all of the true music lovers.
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.203.137) on: Mon Nov 6 14:29:10 EST 2000
  
  The song u are mentioning G Kuppuswamy is
  Copied by Deva for KB film and the song is a superhit poor IR anyway the song is 'Singapooru Selai'
  
  
• From: sakthi (@ 155.99.222.222) on: Mon Nov 6 16:15:31 EST 2000
  
  please try to send the link to deva
  also send a copy to s.a rajkumar
  so that he can show some individuality atleast in copying.
  
  
• From: K (@ 136.182.2.222) on: Mon Nov 6 17:29:06 EST 2000
  
  To me Sutham enbadu namakku sounds like Kambe Jaise Gadi Hai ..
  
  
• From: whoelse (@ 202.9.188.51) on: Tue Nov 7 01:25:12 EST 2000
  
  film-pukar
  song-yeh pukar sunley
  singer-lata mangeshkar
  md-arr
  song copied from "viva forever"
  artist"spice girls" last album together.all tfm listeners listen to the said song carefully and post your views,no hurry at alll.....
  
  
• From: dreego (@ 202.9.188.51) on: Tue Nov 7 01:26:57 EST 2000
  
  din dal jayae is from guide or jewel thief ,dev anand film...
  
  
• From: amalraj (@ 203.199.220.67) on: Fri Nov 10 08:49:57 EST 2000
  
  the starting tune of "ottagatha kattiko" looks very much similar like a christian devotional song "yesu ennum namam pesuginra pouthu"
  
  can some christian DFers clarify.
  
  
• From: karikaalan (@ 138.67.22.80) on: Mon Nov 13 19:36:29 EST 2000
  
  Friends,
  
  People who have listened to Peter Gabriel's
  "Passion" will definitely without hesitating
  say that A.R.Rehman copies almost all his tunes
  and ARR follows exactly his style.
  
  This album "Passion" is the background score of
  the movie The Last Temptation (of Jesus Christ).
  This movie was baned in India.
  
  Here is an assignment to TFM Members.
  Listen this album and identify the songs that ARR
  has copied.
  
  Have fun!
  
  -Karikaalan.
  
  "Karikaalan vaitha KuRi thappaathu. ThavaRinaal
  meendum kuRi vaikka maataan".
  
  - a dialogue from the movie "Marmayogi"
  
  
• From: karikaalan (@ 138.67.22.80) on: Wed Nov 15 19:32:19 EST 2000
  
  Friends,
  
  Today I listened the song "Usilampatti Penkutti"
  from the movie "Gentleman". In this song, the flute piece that comes in the first interlude
  and second interlude is copied / inspired from
  the famous flute music of the english movie
  "Good, Bad and Ugly".
  
  I listened another ARR song "Mukala Mukabola".
  The rythm (percution beats) which comes at the
  end of the song is copied from the beats of Illaiyaraaja's song "Aattam Therottama" in the
  movie "Captain Prabhakaran". (Captain Prabharan
  was released first.) I point out only the beats
  at the end, not the whole song. The whole song is
  copied from another english song; that is a different story.
  
  -Karikaalan
  
  
• From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.227) on: Wed Nov 15 21:16:49 EST 2000
  
  Karikaalare,
  
  Read in a lighter vein-)
  "ARR copy aditha padalgal"nnu yethavathu thesis pannreengala?Ungal porattam vetrikaramaka thodara enn vazzhthukkal.
  
  Ungalukku ARR mela romba Bhakthiya avar patta akku vera aanivera pirikkiringa?Paarthu ARR fana marida poringha.Ungal kalai chevai indha naatukku thevai.-)
  
  Yethavathu paatukku link venumna sollunga naan thedi kandupidichu ungallukku tharukiren.
  Enjoy your quest.
  
  
• From: VK (@ 12.35.64.19) on: Wed Nov 15 21:50:09 EST 2000
  
  Karikaalanne
  indhanga oru link
  http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/itemid=298617/from=cr-6135437
  
  I could identify, A song from rangeela, and one from Jeans - Anbe Anbe, from PG's Album
  
  
• From: satishv (@ 216.8.29.210) on: Wed Nov 15 23:07:02 EST 2000
  
  Karikalan
  
  Iam impressed
  kalakunga
  
  
• From: devils advocate (@ 63.226.195.230) on: Wed Nov 15 23:41:23 EST 2000
  
  many have been telling rather pulambufying..Mukala Mukabola is lift from dr.alban, now after a great research our friend says it is lifted from IR...
  
  so did ir also flick it from dr.alban or compounder alban...
  
  
• From: karikaalan (@ 138.67.22.80) on: Thu Nov 16 20:04:58 EST 2000
  
  hi devils advocate,
  
  Please read carefully my statements.
  
  I did not mention about tune and thw whole
  beats. I mentioned about only the beats which comes at the end of "Mukkala" song.
  
  It is exactly the same beats of "Aattama therottama" song with high tempo. But, the tune
  of the song "Aattama therottama" is totally different from "Mukkala". This is very clear if
  you listen these two songs.
  
  I think, you are tensed while reading my mails.
  That's why without understanding my words, you
  are talking some thing different. Write me your
  address so that I shall send toy antacid tablets.
  This will help you while reading my mails.
  
  VK!
  
  You got 7 out of 10 in the assignmnet. Congrats.
  
  --Karikaalan
  
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 63.202.175.86) on: Thu Nov 16 21:18:54 EST 2000
  
  The Peter Gabriel album is considered the first World Music album (dont ask me who decides those things) and Peter Gabriel is considered the father of World Music. Most of NFAKs album were released by Peter Gabriel's label. NFAK co-worked with some white guy on many albums for PG's label.
  
  
• From: devils advocate (@ 216.160.72.22) on: Thu Nov 16 22:14:49 EST 2000
  
  karikalan...your too funny..
  
  dr albam beat sample has been used by arr in that song...it is a world known ragasiyam...
  so i asked can we conclude...that ir also took the beats from dr. alban...
  
  You did not understand my posting...
  
  btw: are you working in wallgreens by anychance.
  
  
• From: karikaalan (@ 138.67.22.80) on: Fri Nov 17 18:26:33 EST 2000
  
  Dear Friends,
  
  The interlude (second interlude?) in the song
  "Muthalvane..." seems to be a copy from Beethovan's Symphony No.9 (Ode to Joy).
  
  This particular piece also comes as a background music for the most of the scenes in that movie
  "Muthalvan".
  (What a nonsense story! it is equivalent to an Ambulimama story! )
  
  Similar version of this musical piece of Bethovan's symphony is used in "Old spice"
  advertisement and another advt. in US TV channels.
  
  Can any one point out the correct source.?
  
  --Karikaalan
  
  
  
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Fri Nov 17 19:25:38 EST 2000
  
  Old spice advt music is the "O Fortuna..." of Carmina Burana by Carl Orff.
  
  
• From: S (@ 192.135.244.69) on: Mon Nov 20 05:59:33 EST 2000
  
  karikaalan,
  arr didn't have to go to beethoven for that...Check the chorus part of Jerry Goldsmith's Omen. He was nominated for Academy award for his score for that movie.
  
  

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