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6 Songs : Mind Blowing!!
Source :HinduTimes
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_465617,00110003.htm
Simply mind-blowing
November 20
Ajay Devgan and Vivek Oberoi can’t stop raving about the songs of Mani Ratnam’s Yuva. “A.R. Rahman and Mani Sir and dynamite together,” says Vivek on the sets of Indra Kumar and Ashok Thakeria’s Masti, and adds, “The six songs Rahman has recorded for the film are mind-blowing.”
Ajay Devgan, his co-star in Yuva and Masti, uses the same words to describe them. Incidentally, when the film was launched earlier this year, Mani Ratnam had decided not to have a single song in it.
Vivek also feels that Abhishek Bachchan’s is the best role and best performance in the film. “That guy’s career will take off in a big way after Yuva,” predicts Vivek.
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- From: SK (@ 199.90.34.67)
on: Wed May 26 11:47:40 EDT 2004
Has anyone seen the original--"Amores parros"-- the 2001 Mexican movie?
http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1804484483&intl=us
It is not an original MR movie!
[This meat is for the 'vayaththerichchal group'pukku!!]
- From: curses (@ 203.101.38.189)
on: Wed May 26 11:54:21 EDT 2004
err SK, that's exactly what Piratheepan mentioned above..
MR mentioned it (the inspiration) in his interview..
- From: aaa (@ 198.232.250.51)
on: Wed May 26 11:56:28 EDT 2004
Now, people will says, it is intellectually inspired, Mani gave his own treatment etc..all BS.
- From: SK (@ 199.90.34.67)
on: Wed May 26 12:22:33 EDT 2004
Inspiration is different from 'Lifting'.
Reading an one-line news from a newspaper's 7th or 8th page and developing that into a 2 hr movie is "IONSPIRATION".
Watching an 'award-winning' movie in a foriegn language and copying the same 3 characters whose lives interwined on one evening's happening is called "LIFTING".
So, dont try to cover it up. But I am not saying anything wrong about 'lifting' as well. As long as it isa clever one and transformed into a decent movie, it is ok with me.
I am only cross with some of us who defend anything done by his/her favorite artists but bash anything and everything done by those whom they hate. That's disgrace!!
++++END OF DIGRESSION++++
- From: SK (@ 199.90.34.67)
on: Wed May 26 12:23:57 EDT 2004
sorry for that 'O' in that second line!!
- From: * (@ 161.114.1.182)
on: Wed May 26 12:32:24 EDT 2004
forget it, just take a look at The Wonder Years transcripts http://home.t-online.de/home/reynders/wy/wy-trans.htm
MR has unabashed lifted his style from here
- From: curses (@ 203.101.38.189)
on: Wed May 26 12:37:04 EDT 2004
SK,
have u seen the movie 'AMORES PERROS'? My cousin has, and he watched AE too.. he said there's no similarity in the films except for the fact that there are 3 characters and that the important scene comes first w/ flashbacks to sketch their characters. If u say that's the whole point of the film.. well, OK. good for u. "Mani's a blatant lifter" if it makes u feel any better. :)
patni,
U never give up this particular topic, do u? :)
- From: piratheepan (@ 68.88.4.40)
on: Wed May 26 12:40:50 EDT 2004
the wonder yrs?wtf hahahaha u gotta be kidding me.have you seen the wonder yrs?it has nothing to do with the story of the movie.or even the way its told.ur out of ur mind kiddo.u may whine abt "Loves a bitch", cuz the way the story is told is lifted from that movie.mani himself says that, the story is different not the screenplay.but it is new to indian cinema.
but give up on the wonder yrs bit.that is ridiculous
- From: curses (@ 203.101.36.170)
on: Wed May 26 13:06:00 EDT 2004
What next? Vikraman inspired by this? :)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092359/
sorry patni, but ur argument jus seemed.. err.. too farfetched!
- From: true - fyi (@ 68.230.97.249)
on: Wed May 26 13:28:40 EDT 2004
I'm a great fan of MR too and have been following his work with great interest. But it is a fact that MR has indeed copied some scenes from Akiro Kurosawa's (AK) movies. AK is MR's favourite director. Kutti paapa Anjali slapping her mother in "Anjali" was taken from an old b&w movie of AK where a doctor tries to give medicine to a 12-13 yr old girl. Rajini's scenes on the horse including the hair style in Sundari kannaal oru seidhi song in "Dalapathy" was copied from one of AK's action movie, the name of which I fail to recollect now. This was shown on a 2 hr program on PBS channel about 2 yrs back. You may find this info on AK in pbs.org. Nayakan - most of the story and scenes including Kamal's acting was taken from Godfather, but surprisingly, MR never agreed to that. Of course, it was very well Indianised and I like each bit of Nayakan.
So, I won't be surprised if he did anything like that this time too.
- From: * (@ 161.114.1.182)
on: Wed May 26 13:43:50 EDT 2004
have you seen the wonder yrs?it has nothing to do with the story of the movie
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You are one extraordinary dumbwit who seems hell bent on overtaking thiru/xmls as the Resident Idiot of this forum. Borrow some thick glasses, better still, steal that plastic brain specimen from your school lab and examine if I ever said anything about *this* movie.
My post had exactly 5 words on his style of presentation. Phew! And you dumbo cant make sense of even that and vomit all kinds of nonsense out of nowhere...give me a break!
- From: * (@ 161.114.1.182)
on: Wed May 26 13:48:17 EDT 2004
curses, I've pretty much seen close to 100 episodes and more of TWY and know what I'm talking about :) MR's style of dialogs and screenplay is not peculiar - I stand by what I said!
PS: This is where KB stands out.
- From: SK (@ 199.90.34.67)
on: Wed May 26 13:55:37 EDT 2004
'Curses',
Why are you getting mad? I was only referring to a fact. Oh, yes, i forgot to add one more to the above class! Apart from, Inspiration, Lifting, there is a third one, called copying which means doing scene by scene of a different language movie into your own. AE is definitely not a 'copied' movie but certainly a 'lifted' one and definitely not an 'inspired' movie.
To tell you more,here are some examples:
"Nayagan" is an "inspired" movie. MR sees Godfather and the theme inspires him to think of Varadha Mudaliyar in Bombay and makes his own story and scenes
"AE' is a "lifted" movie. MR sees "AP" and follows the same pattern with his own genius mind.
"Avvai Shanmughi" is a "copied" movie where not only the theme, story but even the scenes are almost the same!
Hope you got it!
Inspiration-- theme only
Lifting-- Theme and story
Copy-- above two+ scenes also
++OK! Class over!!++
- From: true - fyi (@ 68.230.97.249)
on: Wed May 26 14:07:35 EDT 2004
read "12-13yr old girl" as "12-13 yr old mentally retarded girl".
- From: g (@ 128.226.68.52)
on: Wed May 26 14:42:05 EDT 2004
hello
- From: piratheepan (@ 68.88.4.40)
on: Wed May 26 15:01:49 EDT 2004
*,
just cuz u open ur mouth doesn't make n e thing u said true.and by using insults u dont help ur point n e, if that was wat u were trying to do.u can stand by wat u wanna say all u want. and ill tell u over and over that there is no relationship to the wonder yrs and mani ratnam.
and xcuse me mr * i think u needa examine wat i said or shall i walk u through it?i think i shall.look at the title of this thread.it says Ayutha Ezhuthu.A-y-u-t-h-a E-z-h-u-t-h-u. Now lets take a few minutes to let that sink in cuz i dont wanna rush u now.aite now lets continue. i said wonder yrs has nuthin to do with this movie so u can stop whining abt it.this movie meaning Ayutha Ezhuthu.And then i went on to say if u want to whine abt sumthin in this thread to whine abt "Loves a Bitch." If that isn't clear i will carry you through it again.
- From: SK (@ 199.90.34.67)
on: Wed May 26 15:15:29 EDT 2004
A-y-u-t-h-a vaa, yillai A-y-d-h-a vaa ?['u' missing!]
Thamizh bannerla 'AYDHA'nnuthaan irukku!!
Ayutham naa 'weapon'
Aydha nnaa 'accessory'nnu thamizh therinjavanga sollak kELvi!
++OK! ilakkaNa class over++
- From: * (@ 161.114.1.182)
on: Wed May 26 15:23:07 EDT 2004
Can anyone make sense of this idiotic ranting and raving above?
piratheepan, BTW your own posts(like the one above) were insulting you much worse that my precise description of your mucking around, so I was actually toning down the magnitude there. Did you a favor kid.
Better do a spellcheck before you post - u might be dumb and dyslexic but we arent.
- From: * (@ 161.114.1.182)
on: Wed May 26 15:23:57 EDT 2004
needless to say, my post was in answer to the one by From: piratheepan (@ 68.88.4.40) on: Wed May 26 15:01:49 EDT 2004
- From: * (@ 161.114.1.182)
on: Wed May 26 15:26:37 EDT 2004
You always get a feeling of deja vu when you see Mani's movies - why cant some idiots come out of their stupid sycophancy and accept this simple fact??
- From: aaa (@ 198.232.250.51)
on: Wed May 26 15:51:35 EDT 2004
They will readily accept that, when "thundubhai" stops scoring music for Mani.
- From: piratheepan (@ 66.142.141.22)
on: Wed May 26 16:15:59 EDT 2004
SK,
look how its spelt on the thread title.:P plus english is different from thamizh,sir or madam, so u can end up spelling a word into thamzih in a few different ways. Becuz there isnt 250+ letters in english.
*,
thoda,i can hand wat i said to at least 100 ppl n theyll be able to understand it.if u dont have the brain to understand just close ur mouth and move on.this isnt a formal forum where one needs to write formally.
"why cant some idiots come out of their stupid sycophancy and accept this simple fact??" hmmmm...you can read that quote a few times and apply it else where.
on a brighter note Aingharan finally released Roja :D so imma get that this weekend, if it's at the store here.
- From: Y (@ 207.46.125.17)
on: Wed May 26 16:23:22 EDT 2004
"Amores perros" - Love's a bitch
Yes, i saw the movie - more than once. I would be really happy if AE is any where close to Amores Perros.
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