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SPB the greatest singer that India had ever produced

Topic started by greatest_spb_fan (@ 212.2.14.241) on Thu Aug 2 04:57:19 EDT 2001.
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why don't anybody start a thread like 'SPB the greatest singer that India had ever produced', pls

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• From: rithik goula (@ 210.214.242.215) on: Fri Sep 21 01:29:25 EDT 2001
  
  KJY in a recent interview in "Asianet" has criticized the songs from SANKARAPARANAM ...DID U KNOW THIS ?? He said the songs from this movie r not carnatic;the songs have been a disgrace to the entire music community....though he has not criticized "SPB" for sure!!
  
  Kjy definitely is an expert judge of carnatic music! So please understand that when u speak of sankaraparanam; there is nothing really great in these songs...........byeeeeeeeeee
  
  
• From: sundar (@ 61.11.73.131) on: Fri Sep 21 03:33:21 EDT 2001
  
  If at all KJY said like that I sincerely believe
  he has lost his mental balance and may be the green eyed monster has set in to his mind as he has virtually lost that was once a great one.
  KJY must also be regretting that he did not the chance of singing in KVM's masterpiece.
  
  But talking of Shankarabaram there can be no 2 opinions about the songs and the music. It was appealing to the common man on the street as well as a discerning music lover.
  
  SPB's effort in particular was truly outstanding.
  the rendering of "ananda drishtenae tadavangaa.. and the cascade to the pallavi of 'Shankara' song will ever remain etched in the minds of one and all.also the Sloka "maaNikka VeeNam 'in Kalyani raga is another outstanding effort not to forget themelliflous rendering of song "omkara naadalu"
  
  Despite all the carnatic background and very melodious& deep voice, KJY he clearly lags behind SPB in gamakas,singing in higher octaves,expression and also diction especially in TAmil.let us put this thread to rest.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: sundar (@ 61.11.73.131) on: Fri Sep 21 03:38:04 EDT 2001
  
  sorry -I missed the word his voice
  
  "as he has virtually lost 'His VoiCe' that was once a great one".
  
  
• From: fan (@ 202.9.147.229) on: Sat Sep 22 07:32:22 EDT 2001
  
  it is spb who made even non listerners of classical music to listen to it and he did through his extrodinary voice and voice modulation.
  hats off to spb.long live the greatest in the world,universe,jupiter,maars,etc etc.
  
  
• From: ET (@ 64.124.150.137) on: Sat Sep 22 19:06:22 EDT 2001
  
  NASA scientists at the Kennedy Space Centre have confirmed recent reports that more martians listen to south Indian classical music on a regular basis after they have been exposed to songs from the movie Sankarabaram. 92% of the martians surveyed said that even though KVM's music was good, it was the celestial voice of the singer SPB that got them hooked on this kind of music.
  
  Hats off to / long live "the greatest in the world,universe,jupiter,mars,etc etc".
  
  
• From: Music_fan (@ 195.92.67.70) on: Sun Sep 23 03:50:00 EDT 2001
  
  ET;
  
  Hmmm, nice name. It is true that SPB breathed life into shankaraparanam, even though the mosic was done by the greatest Carnatic music director, Mr.KVM, as you know there only few Carnatic MD around like, vidyasaghar, marahathamani,bhavath raj, any way this thread is not about MDs, but about SPB.
  
  Suresh & Fan;
  
  I do not think KJY would have criticised Shankaraparanam like that, because I heard KJY in many interviews, saying that how great shankaraparanm songs were & how great balu (SPB) is, these two are great friends with great respect amongst each other, there are some hipocrits like "rithik goula ", who is so incmpetence in proving that KJY is better than SPB, because KJY IS NOT better than SPB, uses some idiotic statements to prove thier Dumb point, just feel pity for them & do not bother replying to them, because they are not worth it!!!.
  
  Shankaraparanam MD, Mr. KVM said that it is Dr. SPB who won him self the national award for the songs,It is seriously amazing as to how he modulated his voice in the songs, which can never be achieved by any other singers like, M.rafi, KJY &Ghantasala, Bala murali Krishna. SPB's voice so divine, it is a gift from Saraswathi!
  
  This is where SPB stands taller & fatter than any other singers in IFM.
  
  
• From: Manickam (@ 195.92.67.66) on: Sun Sep 23 12:01:21 EDT 2001
  
  Jay-kl (@ ) ;
  
  I also have the same feeling like you, about the fact this dull MDs not using SPB any more, perhaps they should visit this page & realise thier mistakes!
  
  
• From: rithik goula (@ 202.9.167.107) on: Sun Sep 23 13:59:06 EDT 2001
  
  sureshji $ co....
  
  ""Modulates his voice in Sankaraparanam""...nothing great or amusing! Anyone who has studied Carnatic music could have sung much better....Don't forget KJY is the only singer in INDIA who could have sung those songs more better...DON'T FORGET SINDHU BAIRAVI....Imagine SPB singing those songs...ha ha....he would have pissed ;trying to sing those....
  Please stop praising this man profusely....learn to respect all singers alike! No singer is 100% perfect...everyone has there on weak points and strengths...Let's love and respect all singers equally...........byeeeeeeeeeeeee....
  
  
  
  
• From: ET (@ 64.124.150.133) on: Sun Sep 23 14:26:45 EDT 2001
  
  Balamuralikrishna and K.J. Yesudas were K.V. Mahadevan's first and second choices for "Sankaraabaranam". However, director K. Viswanath insisted on making SPB sing the songs. SPB had a lot of difficulty singing those songs, and needed several days of training/practice under Pugazhendhi (KVM's assistant). In fact, SPB himself has acknowledged (in several interviews) Pugazhendhi's involvement and help with those songs.
  
  Sankarabaranam soundtrack was the most promoted and hyped up album in the history of Indian Music. While some people praise those songs to Jupiter and Mars, I know experts in classical music who consider them sub-standard.
  
  
• From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Mon Sep 24 05:16:09 EDT 2001
  
  rithik goula;
  
  No one under any circumstances intimidated KJY, but you are the narrow minded fool who is intimidating SPB, have some respect for any singers b4 posting, perhaps you should have sung shankaraparanam, I am sure every one would have loved it.
  
  KJY can not modulate at all that's a fact, OK!, nor can he express any feelings through his singing,he will sound NASAL at higher notes, which will become unbearable to listen, like in "sinthu bairavi", he sounds nasal at "ettankatai", hence it sounds like screaming,"thanni thoti thedivantha kannu kutti naan", it is typical SPB, KJY has spoilt it.listen to "poo malai vanghi vanthal", he sounds nasal at highest note, since when SPB sounded nasal????, never ever.
  
  If SPB sang "thom thom thom tha nantha thom thom", from sinthu bharavi, it would sounded better, because SPB voice has heavy bass than KJY, this songs start from the lowest note (muthalan ghatai), where SPB will outperform any singer in IFM, including M.Rafi, now go back & listen to shanaraparanam , then chew it then swallow it.
  
  by the way, Shankaraparanam was lot lot lot more better than sinthu bhairavi, it sold millions of albums than Sinthu bhairavi, it even Got SPB the "National Award", so pls do not be stupid to compare KJY with SPB, SPB ruled, Rules & will rule!
  
  ET;
  
  It is true SPB had several days of training, then think about it he had no idea of Carnatic music, yet listen to his awsome performance!!!
  
  
• From: ET (@ 64.124.150.130) on: Mon Sep 24 07:53:07 EDT 2001
  
  Raguvaran:
  
  You are beyond help. You don't know what the heck you are talking about, do you? Your statements about Sindhubhairavi songs prove what a "gnyaansoonam" you are. There is no use arguing with people like you. I repeat, you (and your other personalities) are beyond help. Usually, I refer people like you to a good Psychiatrist, but in your case, I'm not going to waste my time.
  
  
• From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Mon Sep 24 08:11:41 EDT 2001
  
  ET;
  
  I think u should see a psychiatrist, not me, with a name like ET ( Et Go home now,), if you can not accept the fact that Shankaraparanam was better rendered than sinthubaravi, that shows your stupidity, what the heck/ I am a also singer, so I do know what am I talking about, I did not intimidate any singers or non -music senses like you. It just shows how incompetence you are in accepting facts, please listen to all songs & all singers b4 commenting about anything!
  
  
  do you know what "ragams" & "thalams", these two films songs are in???, do you know what is shruti, layam, pallavi, shruthi, sangathi???
  
  vanthuttank verai velai illama, gnyaanasoonianghal
  
  
• From: ET (@ 64.124.150.142) on: Mon Sep 24 09:22:02 EDT 2001
  
  Raguvaran Anne, what is wrong with my name? ET is the short form for Erode Thambidurai.
  
  
• From: Isaipriyan (@ 157.95.211.50) on: Mon Sep 24 10:43:25 EDT 2001
  
  Raghu,
  You may be a singer, but that does'nt give you permisson to say KJY is NASAL.That shows your ignorance.What is the use of knowing shruti, layam, pallavi, shruthi, sangathi when people don't have the heart to recognise good work.Nobody is saying shankarabaranam is bad or not good.It was truly a great performance from a singer who does'nt have a carnatic background.To attack ET u r saying SPB would have been a better choice for sindubhairavi.Thats an absurd statement.now go back & listen to sindubairavi , then chew it then swallow it.
  Even I have a carnatic background but people who degrade the genius of KJY only prove their ignorance in Music.
  
  
  
• From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Mon Sep 24 11:08:53 EDT 2001
  
  Isaipriyan;
  
  I did not degrade KJY, he is great, I have never ever denied that. KJY is my second choice, after SPB, I have never said that just because I am an amateur singer, I can degrade people, I am not degrading or degraded any singers including Dr.KJY.
  
  Read my posting properly, I have never said SPB would be a better choice 4 sinthubharavi, I only said Dr.SPB would have been a better choice 4 the songs " Thom Thom thom tha nantha thom thom" & "thanni thotti thedivatha kannu kutti naan", Just these two.
  
  Maha Ghanapathim, poomalai vangi vanthaal, manathil oruthi vendum are all masterpiece of Dr.KJY, but just because KJY sounds nasal at high pitches doesnot mean I am degrading him, it is a fact!,but Since when SPB sounded nasal!
  
  M.Rafi & SPB & L.Mangeshkar are the only rulers in High Pitches, this is fact, even KJY & Lata admitted that M.rafi & SPB are the only singers who can do justice at high pitches not KJY,OK, then again you might think I am degrading Him, but I am not, it is a fact, if you can not accept it tough!
  
  Now SPB always sounds better than KJY in lower notes, due to his heavy & deep bass, compare "Sa re ga re gapa tha pa, sare gapa tha pa ga re" from shankaraparanam & listen to "Thom Thom thom tha nantha thom thom", from sinthu bhairavi or "Elisai geetha me enna koru geetham" from rasigan oru rasigai then understand the fact SPB bass is lot deeper than KJY, if you want another eg, listen to "thulli thulli nee padam ma", especially when he sings from "muthalanghatai", which is lower & deeper than the lowest note ( Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh).
  
  Another issue is Dr.KJY is sangeetha vidhuvaan, but what about Dr. SPB???, all self taught is not it, now tell me who is the greatest???
  
  
• From: ET (@ 64.124.150.130) on: Mon Sep 24 11:47:26 EDT 2001
  
  Raguvaran:
  
  To quote a previous posting, "chappaaththi chappaaththi thaan rotti rotti thaan".
  
  

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