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KBalachander padangalin paadalgal

Topic started by Ramki (@ nas01ppp208.apts.wmich.edu) on Thu Mar 5 22:36:44 EST 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

We had a discussion on songs from Sridhar and Bhimsinghs movies.Why dont we do a similar analyis on
Balachanders films too?To ease the discussion I have given a listing of KBs films(it may not be complete,so
please add to the list if anything is missing)



neerkumizhi(VKumar)
edhirneechal(VK)
bama vijayam(MSV)
irukodugal(VK)
vellivizha(MSV)
kannaa nalamaa(MSV)
pathaam pasili(VK)
naanal(MSV)
navagraham(MSV)
kaavyathalaivi(VK)
punnagai(VK)
naan avanillai(MSV)
major chandrakanth(VK)
edhiroli(no songs in this film)
nootrukku nooru(VK)
poova thalaiya(MSV)
arangetram(VK)
aval oru thodarkadhai(MSV)
sollathan ninaikkiren(MSV)
aboorvaraagangal(MSV)
avargal(MSV)
nizhal nijamaagiradhu(MSV)
apoorvaraagangal(MSV)
moondru mudichu(MSV)
thillu mullu(MSV)
varumaiyin niram sivappu(MSV)
manmadha leelai(MSV)
47 naatkal(MSV)
thapputhaalangal(VijayaBhaskar)
noolveli(MSV)
thanneer thanneer(MSV)
achamillai achamillai(VSN)
kalyana agadhigal(VSN)
agni saatchi(MSV)
enga oor kannagi(MSV)
poi kaal kudirai(MSV)
pattina pravesam(MSV)
punnagai mannan(Ilaiyaraja)
unnaal mudiyum thambi(Raja)
sindhu bhairavi(Raja)
manadhil urudhi vendum(raja)
pudhu pudhu arthangal(Raja)
oru veedu iru vaasal(no songs)
jaadhi malli(Maragathamani)
vaanamae ellai(Maragathamani)
azhagan(Maragathamani)
duet(ARR)
kalki(Deva)

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• From: raja m (@ draco.eisi.com) on: Fri Mar 6 13:55:57 EST 1998
  
  Ramki & Kanchana:
  
  Thanks :)
  
  A digression..
  
  What are the movies directed by Mouli?
  I remember Ivargal Vithiyasamanavarkal ( starring P Jayalakshmi - a good movie ) What are the songs from this film?
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ cs517.cs.wmich.edu) on: Fri Mar 6 14:03:12 EST 1998
  
  Haha Raja i have been looking for these songs for quite some time...
  AS far as i can remember theres only one song in this film which was for Srividya and PJailakshmi.
  As u said this was a very good film
  
  other Mouli films are
  
  oru oodhappu aduppodhigaradhu
  oru varisu uruvaagiradhu
  vaa indha pakkam
  pudhiya anubhavam or something
  
  
• From: raja m (@ draco.eisi.com) on: Fri Mar 6 14:08:50 EST 1998
  
  Ramki:
  
  How I got to P Jayalakshmi was when I remembered ennadi ulagam from AOT. Then I remembered the other good film of her . She was a good actress, a pity she killed herself . Mouli is one more intelligent character. Somehow did not shine . He used to be hilarious in his earlier dramas . :)
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ cs517.cs.wmich.edu) on: Fri Mar 6 14:09:26 EST 1998
  
  oops it should be 'oru pullanguzhal aduppodhigiradhu'and not oru oodhappu:))
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ cs517.cs.wmich.edu) on: Fri Mar 6 14:32:35 EST 1998
  
  U r rite raja she was a good actress .She and Rajinikanth had lots of 'on screen'chemistry.
  
  MOuly was a good director too but somehow he didnt direct any impressive films. 'ivargal vidhyasamanavargal'was an indeed very good film.
  Though i was very small when i saw this film i enjoyed it very much. The performances of all the lead artistes was extremely good.
  
  SindhuBhairavi had lots of resemblance to this film.Especially Sulakshanas character was very much similar to that of Srividyas. What do u think??
  
  
• From: raja m (@ draco.eisi.com) on: Fri Mar 6 14:42:43 EST 1998
  
  Ramki:
  
  I really dont remember the film's plot. I saw it on MS DD long time back. I do remember the last scene, when mouli is walking on the beach, removes his chappals and throws them into the sea . I should watch this one and KB's classics again , also SNSM .
  
  
• From: shyam (@ 192.147.35.56) on: Fri Mar 6 15:54:31 EST 1998
  
  Raja :
  
  You might be talking about 'oru pullankulaL aduppu UthukiRathu' -- It is an excellent movie by mouli. He will try to sell LIC building in that movie. njyabaga marathi character was good in that movie.
  
  KB :
  
  akni sAtsi :
  
  Lot of pudu kavithi is there in the movie.
  
  kanA kANum KaNkaL mella is too good. In the middle of the song one english dance will come. That is ultimate.
  
  'puthiya kavithai punayum kuyilE nenjjil undAna pAram enna
  ninaivu alaigal...'
  
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ nas01ppp203.apts.wmich.edu) on: Fri Mar 6 16:38:01 EST 1998
  
  Shyam nope Raja is rite abt 'IV'. 'oru pullanguzhal...'didnt had srikanth.
  
  Raja let me summarise the plot for 'IV'
  
  Srikanth,a business magnet,has a sweet innocent
  illiterate wife and a son and daughter.Enters
  into his life is PJayalakshmi as his secretary.
  Srikanth ,attracted by her intelligence,falls for her and PJ,due to her poor family background,accepts to be the second wife for
  Srikanth. Srikanth easily fools his unread wife(this is the best scene in the whole film -srividya at her best)and marries PJ wout divorcing sri. Soon he starts neglecting his first family . PJ bears him a son and later due to some
  problem( i dont remember this)PJ leaves him.
  When Srikanth tries to go back to his first family,he will be chased out by his handicapped son. Then comes the last scene u have mentioned where srikanth walks alone in the beach(juhu beach)
  
  
• From: raja m (@ draco.eisi.com) on: Fri Mar 6 17:24:51 EST 1998
  
  Ramki:
  
  I vaguely now am able to recollect the story. I thought mouli was the main character, must be Srikanth. Talking of Srikanth reminds me of Raja naagam, one more good film.
  Since you are one of the page maintainers, one can take liberties of digression :)
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ nas01ppp203.apts.wmich.edu) on: Fri Mar 6 17:47:40 EST 1998
  
  No Raja enakkum andha rules ellaam undu:))Since there isnt good discussion going on KBs songs i
  started discussing 'IV':))
  
  Surprisingly i dont see many ppl joining this discussion:)KB should be(thats what i think)the
  fav director for many..and songs from his films were outstanding.
  enne ellorukkum wknd mooda?
  
  
• From: MSK (@ dhcp-877019741.qualcomm.com) on: Fri Mar 6 19:24:59 EST 1998
  
  I am very much free.!! But got real sick after seeing KB's kalki with Deva's Music - How low the standrads can stoop - From sindhu bhairavi to Kalki.
  
  I used to be a BIG KB fan until I saw Duet ., and the fate was sealed by kalki..
  
  Ramki.,
  Duet songs to be compared w/ other KB hits..?? Start with Ninaithale inikkum, Nilal Nijamagirathu, SB , Punnagai mannan , PPA etc..
  
  Alagan was Good. But Vaname Ellai's songs were not all that good I feel..
  
  
  
  
• From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Fri Mar 6 20:18:01 EST 1998
  
  MSK - The world will appear pink to you if you wear pink glasses! :-))
  Duet the movie, was more a musical than a usual KB story. It can hold its own compared to many other similar musicals. IMO, Duet songs are much better and a class apart than the songs from Nininaithaaley Inikkum. (Pardon me MSV fans, but surely I'm entitled to my views - but then again I prefered Priya songs to NI too. :-))) As far as Kalki is concerned, at least a couple of songs were very relevant to the movie. It was a bold story that could not have been captured by anyone else, but KB.
  In 90% of KB's movies, the songs complement the movie, without overshadowing the story. That is the mastery of KB over film-making.
  Do not let your "IR-worship" (for want of a better word. :-)) cast doubts over this master director.
  
  
• From: Pagalavan (@ bbn-cache-4.cisco.com) on: Fri Mar 6 20:29:06 EST 1998
  
  Ramki
  
  (Refer to your list)
  MD for naaNal and navagraham was VK.
  
  
• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Fri Mar 6 21:06:04 EST 1998
  
  Ramki:
  
  You missed one more movie: Naangu Suvargal (a flop
  movie by KB; MD: MSV). It had two good songs:
  O Mainaa, and, ninaiththaal naan vaanam sendru.
  
  The song aaNaiyittEn nerungaathE from Punnagai
  is a great song, sung very effectively by SJanaki.
  But I fully agree with you regarding its picturization.
  (Which girl will sing a song when she is being raped?
  Only KB can imagine such things!)
  
  Punnagai has one more song: naaLai naamoru
  raajaangam amaippOm. This song comes at the
  very beginning of the movie where the five friends
  take a pledge in front of a Gandhi statue to be
  truthful always and then go around roaming in
  Madras to celebrate their graduation from Engg
  college. To me this movie is the best that KB ever
  made; in fact, I will go one step further and say
  that IMO it is one of the best movies ever made in Thamizh. Gemini's character in that movie is
  an astoundingly great one! (Ah, this Gemini is very
  lucky: he got one other excellent character from
  KSG in Karpagam!) Some people have told me that this
  movie gives a negative view to viewers about the
  value of being truthful. They tell me that the
  movie gives the view that one undergoes only
  hardships by sticking to the path of truth. But
  you have to see the movie very carefully. Gemini
  speaks truth always and because of that he faces
  all kinds of physical hardships; but he
  is always smiling in the movie; he has absolutely
  NO mental harships at all. There is however one
  scene when he really has a sad face. That happens
  when he is in death-bed and MRRVasu asks for his
  signature on a false document and says that only if
  Gemini signs it will he take care of Gemini's
  family after his death. Although Gemini dosen't
  like it, he ultimately signs it and gives it to his wife
  Jayanthi. His face is sad when he silently gives that to
  her. BUT she knows him so well. (BTW, Jayanthi's
  character is another wonderful one.) In front of him
  she tears off the document and his face brightens,
  both of them smile with great fulfilment in heart
  and then Gemini dies; the punnagai is still
  present in his face at death, signifying the fact
  that he had a winner's life, full of happiness only. That scene is one of the very best scenes;
  no dialogues, only silence, excellent facial
  gestures, and the background music
  very aptly made to give a wonderful effect!
  
  There are a few more wonderful scenes in this
  movie: the dialogue between Gemini and Jayanthi
  after she is charged by ASakunthala in front
  of everybody that Jayanthi committed adultery
  (KB nicely brings-in Ramayanam & M'Baratham stories);
  the scene in which Sahasranamam, the stubborn
  father of Gemini, questions Jayanthi's child
  to know whether Gemini has conveyed to the child
  the truth that Gemini is not its father, etc.
  
  I can go on and on about this movie, but let me
  stop. This is absorbing all my time!
  Ramki: now I know why people are not beginning to
  write in this thread.
  
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ nas01ppp207.apts.wmich.edu) on: Fri Mar 6 21:18:57 EST 1998
  
  Keerthi Im in the punnaghai fan club too.When i saw this film in DD few yrd b4 i was jusu amazed.What a story,what a performance. The best of KB,a best in the TFM.But my Mom said this film
  was a flop...well we know abt average TFM rasigargal. One more scene i liked in this film where ASakunthala turns the table and make jayanthi look like having an extramartial affair.
  Muthu who learns truth but hesitating to accuse Sakunthala in front of others and Gemini who
  believes that his wife is innocent accepts her back.Such an intense situation but without any melodramatic scenes...no 'athaan mannichirunga'kadharifying..Gemini,Muthu and Jayanthi at their best.Yes keerthi this discussion can go on and on
  
  
  NOV i m on ur side regarding 'duet' and'kalki'.Being a MSV fan myself, i will say
  that 'duet'songs were much better than 'ninaithalae inikkum'.
  The sax interlude 'en kaadhalae en kaadhalae'showed the brilliance of ARR.
  Similarly Deva did a decent job in 'kalki'.
  'porul thedum boomiyil' and 'ezhudhugiren oru kadidham'were excellent. Esp 'porul thedum'which was based on raag Revathi had very good music and
  nice lyrics by the new kavignar 'ilandhevan'
  
  

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