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Is Vairamuthu better than Kannadaasan?

Topic started by Prabhar (@ ppp45-216.lvsb.vsnl.net.in) on Thu Jul 2 09:40:00 EDT 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Yes......The greatest joke of the year!
Courtesy: Sivaji Ganesan
Reference: Kungumam weekly.
My opeinon: KD malai yentral VM madu....

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• From: Kannnan (@ ) on: Tue Oct 17 17:30:31 EDT 2000
  
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• From: hyderali (@ ) on: Tue Oct 31 12:58:33 EST 2000
  
  ada kadavule... yaroda yarai oppittu parkirathu entru oru kanneke illaiya ?
  
  kannadasanoda oru alaithan oppidamudiyum.Athu yaru? ..Kannadasanthan.. He is unique.. no comparison please...
  
  
• From: G. Kuppusamy (@ 156.153.255.250) on: Wed Nov 1 03:32:02 EST 2000
  
  seems Kannadasan v/s Vairamuthu has brought some positive responses too in this(I was sceptical when i saw this thread for the first time. I thought its going to be another thread for fullfledged bashing and anti-bashing).
  
  but,sadly, most part hasn't betrayed my sceptisicm. what i feel is, this bashing anti bashing is due to direct KaD v/s VM. In order to passify this fight and make it more Positive shall we discuss Pattukkotai also in this, so that it becomes KaD v/s VM v/s PK (ofcourse not the persons but their creations).
  
  I saw some other threads having Kad, VM, Vaali and all. I think PK's r also very fit to be discussed (to be fought in DFers words).
  
  What do u say???
  
  
  
• From: venku (@ 195.33.225.167) on: Wed Nov 1 05:01:29 EST 2000
  
  I think VM also wrote some good lines in many songs
  fo eg.
  in movie thanneer..thanneer
  "adi naan petha nandhavan en iduppil ulla nandhavan" as heroine will sing this song to console her child.
  
  for silly and entertaiment
  "azhagu pennin thaayaar endral atthai endrae artham " - thiruda thiruda...
  
  I thing he is using mostly with nowadays trend and happenings of lifes...
  style is different while KD is expert in romantics
  VM is expert in metaphor type songs.
  KD born as a poet, whereas VM is trying to become a cine-poet with restrictions.(coz he has to do other than what did by KD or Vali)
  
  comparison should be only when we are confusing with the two with same quality and quantity..
  but here not so...
  why comparison ?
  
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 63.89.188.123) on: Wed Nov 1 12:07:26 EST 2000
  
  I'm going to keep re-posting my earlier post every time someone revives this dealt-with-and-dead issue. I feel that perception skills are at an all time low in this forum...
  
  I don't know what gave people the idea that this is the official Vairamuthu effigy burning site. Let me clarify, it isn't.
  
  If you have anything meaningful to add to the thread (and for this you would need to start with the thread's title and then read all or at least most of what has been written about the topic until now) you would go to the symposium that was spawned from this thread. This symposium discussed this issue at length for 10 separate topics. Of course, that would mean some thought, some time, some interest in the true state of things. It doesn't give you the opportunity to be a gang banger, a rabble-rouser, a net heckler.You probably don't have time for all that, so stop your bashing here. And I call the newtfmpage admins to put this beast out of its misery. Enough already.
  
  
• From: Kannadhasasa Thasan Senthil (@ ) on: Thu Nov 23 21:21:24 EST 2000
  
  Kanndhasan is a unique poet.Viramuttu is miles away to compare with Kanndhasan.Please do not make debate within them.Kanndhasan wrote songs in such varieties like sad,love,wedding,new baby born,funeral,philosophical,devotional etc etc much millions what vairamuttu did did?????neitu mullithcha mushroom.no where near to my KANNADHASAN.''Panneer malar sorium meghzangalae engal KANNADHASN Pughzal Paddunghalea''
  
  
• From: Tamizhlan (@ 202.139.118.253) on: Sat Nov 25 20:02:04 EST 2000
  
  Dear Readers
  The only useful and sensible contibutions to this thred(in my opinion) has come from:
  1) morningstar76 and
  2) Udhaya.
  Simple common sense will tell any idiot that all five fingers are not the same.
  The Tamizhl Language and People can progress by discussing other isssues(topic) relevent to the society and public at large, rather than discussing topics related to Tamizhl Films.
  This page could be used to discuss issues, clarifying doubdts and and problems in topics such as current affairs,medical issues,computers and science and so on.
  
  
• From: senthil (@ ) on: Sun Dec 3 20:04:21 EST 2000
  
  Dear Tamizhlan This is a site belongs to King of Poet and Master of shakesphere Kannadhasan,if you want to make any comments on social issues you SHOULD go to www.utter.idiots.com.hell.All idiots know that all fingers are not the same.
  
  Yaari nambi naan piranthen
  Pongeda ponge
  En kalam vellum ventra pin
  Vaankadda vankada
  
  
• From: L Prassanna (@ 193.56.241.19) on: Wed Dec 6 08:59:28 EST 2000
  
  ellarum sonnathathan naanum sollaporen :
  Kannadasan oda Viramuthu va konanthu oppidathinga please !
  
  
• From: KRISHNA (@ ) on: Fri Dec 15 10:58:58 EST 2000
  
  never VM CAN TOUCH KANNADASAN,HE IS LIVING PERSON WHERAS KD SI A LIVING LEGEND EVEN AFTER HIS DEATH
  
  
• From: pg (@ 12.20.190.1) on: Fri Dec 15 11:05:25 EST 2000
  
  Hi guys,
  
  Please read vairamuthu's kaLLikAttu idhikAsam in Anandha vikatan.
  
  real good stuff.
  
  kaNNadhAsan for all his greatness never had such a feeling for rural thamizhnAdu.
  
  While I myself have baited diamUndu for his wierd filmy songs, vairamuthu is miles ahead of anybody else in authentic gramiya maNam kavazhum songs.
  
  I just discovered kaLLikAttu idhikAsam after ignoring it all these weeks. Hopefully I can find it all in the archives.
  
  
  
• From: vem (@ 129.186.205.55) on: Fri Dec 15 11:06:56 EST 2000
  
  Guys
  VM- Chandiran mathiri. Kannadasan Suriyan madhiri. Eppo Suriyan illiyo appo dhan Chandiran oli namakku thevai..... (Please stop these silly comparisons)...... VM - ippo english kavignar aayittar.
  
  
• From: tamilan (@ ) on: Fri Aug 3 15:41:06 EDT 2001
  
  hellow, Pg. what u said is exactly correct.
  After reading 'kallikattu ithigasam' i thought
  we should not compare anybody with VM..
  really good stuff. read it. feel it
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com) on: Fri Aug 3 16:40:57 EDT 2001
  
  again I would quote from the most recent experience of hosting Mr. Arivumadhi (lyricist for songs like "deepangal pesum", "orunaal intha oru naal", "athini chitini") He is also BR's Asst. Dir.
  
  While posed th 64,000$ Q of who the better lyricist is VM / KK? he immdly replied in terms of acheivement and cine industry value and opinion. VM was far ahead of KK and was not even a comparison. VM and KK , he said possesed the same quality and interms of innovation VM was miles ahead. And the sheer stamina with which VM generated lyrics was an amazement to the industry folks.
  
  Again I personally like KK more than VM and think its no comparison and KK > VM. But Arivumadhi inspite of being a VM disliker, candidly accepted the truth that VM had surpassed KK's acheivements. He was vocally supported by his cine cohorts.
  
  One thing I agree and think is a fact is. Indians always live in the past. they always think the people of the past are better and had more quality than the present . The acheivements of the present are viewed in proper perspectve only 50 years from now.
  
  So I am sure when VM's acheivements are reviewed 50 yrs from now He will be regarded with >= esteem than KK.
  
  However agast this makes people I , personally a big KK fan believe so ( i think the indians and the past thing is true)
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com) on: Fri Aug 3 17:48:32 EDT 2001
  
  //"neitu mullithcha mushroom"//
  
  isnt VM here for 20 years? How long was KK in the industry?
  
  
• From: Saadhu (@ 203.199.205.25) on: Tue Aug 7 07:12:03 EDT 2001
  
  This question resembles "Is ARR better than IR"?
  
  No way. Just No way. Just no comparison.
  Kannadasan is a genius of a poet. Vairamuthu is very good. Very very good. But still, no comparison .
  
  Just like ARR can't be compared with IR.
  
  
  
  
• From: Check_this_out (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Tue Aug 7 08:13:01 EDT 2001
  
  vairamuthu = kanadasan apart from love related songs, where vairmuthu shines better than kanadasan, but then again kanadasan shines better than vairamuthu in "thathuva padalghal".
  
  but SPB is the lord in IMF
  
  
• From: kkok (@ ) on: Fri Nov 30 08:55:07 EST 2001
  
  There was only Kaviarasu i.e Kannadasan. Don't compare anybody else with him. He borned to be a legend.
  If the comparison is necessary, Kavinyar Valli is much more better than Vairamuthu.
  Fact of life.
  
  
• From: S (@ 64.220.209.214) on: Fri Nov 30 19:19:12 EST 2001
  
  Ayya, unga vilayyaattukku oru alavae illayaa? Kannadhasanai vairamutthuvodaa compare panni paarkanum. Kannadhasanukku kaviarasu enru peyar vandhathu, VM-kku, avarae vachukkittaaar. As far as i know, VM started recycles many of his own lines. Many, many.... Thayavu seithu intha comparison-a vittrungalaen. Aerkanavae, IR-kooda, ARR compare panni nokadichuttu irukkaanga, athu pothaathaa, ithu vaerayaa?????!!!! Kannadhaasanukku inaiyaa, VM-a potri paadurathu, IR-kku inaiyaa, ARR-a, Compare panrathukku samam.
  
  
• From: sincere_students@indya.com (@ ) on: Thu Dec 20 05:54:09 EST 2001
  
  My Dears,
  
  I felt agony of hearing that there are some idiots comparing an Everest(Kannadasan) with a small hill(Vairamuthu) made of dust. I beg you, that no one should think of comparing Kannadasan with Vairamuthu. Kannadasan is omnipotent, omniscence in the field of poems. Vairamuthu is also doing few good things, but they are all finger counts. But Kannadasan's creations are plenty and unique in each and every aspects.
  
  Kavichakkaravarthy is KAMBAR,
  Maha kavi is BHARATHIAR,
  Paaventhar is BHARATHIDASAN... Likewise
  Kaviarasar is KANNADASAN.
  
  Even though KAVIPERARASU OF KAVISITRARASU comes, no one in this world can replace Kannadasan, because he is king of poets.
  
  Even though Vairamuthu himself says that he is kaviperarasu.....it tickles us with laughter.
  
  So try to do some good things rather than comparing a genius with a crawling baby
  
  
• From: Suresh (@ ) on: Tue Jan 8 11:20:03 EST 2002
  
  My Dears,
  
  Viramuthu is far superior to Kanadasan. VM can bend the words and put them in any type of music and his songs are "brain stroming". I wonder why he got the national awards 4 times. Vali was euually talanted at Kanadasan's time but he is no where today. Above all Vairamuthu is an oppotunist where he can grab the situation and comes up with excellent catchy words to cpmplement the films. Even many names of the films emerge from his songs eg: forthcomming Maniratnam's "Kannathil Muthamital" is from a song Viramutu writen to that film.
  
  So stop saying dont compare Kanadasan with Viramuthu and look at what they have achieved. I think Viramuthu will get many more national awards to lift the Tamil language popularity around the world.
  
  I dont think any body call themselves "Kavi Perarasu" and give themselves a national awards. Please come up with some constructive criticism to bring this forum more informative & interesting.
  
  

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