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A request to amateur composers who visit this page

Topic started by Vijay (@ 212.137.205.127) on Thu Nov 16 16:58:22 EST 2000.
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I'd like to request amateur composers who visit this page to tell me if they've uploaded any of their work onto the internet and if they have, please tell me where I can listen to it. Thank You.

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• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.110) on: Fri Mar 16 16:38:57 EST 2001
  
  Arul:
  
  I think it's because of the same kind of instruments used in composer's breath and the same raga flow. But certainly srikanth tried to simulate the presence of those two Maestro Combi -Good.
  
  Regards,
  Aditya
  
  
• From: comment (@ 63.225.175.101) on: Fri Mar 16 16:46:03 EST 2001
  
  arul thanks ,
  btw:"composer's breath' ?, i have not heard this...
  
  naveen , TR is always on.
  
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.110) on: Fri Mar 16 16:47:20 EST 2001
  
  Hi Guys:
  
  In 1992, in SAARC meetings, there was a special concert I watched a Pakisthani Keyboardist playing Hindustani classical on Keyboard. This guy played flute in the same way as our Srikanth and I don't remember his name. I wonder how he simulated it on KB based on older technology. But very good it was.
  
  regards,
  Aditya
  
  
• From: Naveen (@ 204.255.14.188) on: Fri Mar 16 16:49:00 EST 2001
  
  I guess breath related effects are possible in Wind Midi Controllers.
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.110) on: Fri Mar 16 16:49:52 EST 2001
  
  Comment:
  
  Nothing But Wind by IR has a wonderful composition "Composers Breath". If you haven't heard then you should listen.
  
  Regards,
  Aditya
  
  
• From: comment (@ 63.225.175.101) on: Fri Mar 16 16:52:58 EST 2001
  
  Oh.. I have, i thought it was some other western album.
  
  
• From: comment (@ 63.225.175.101) on: Fri Mar 16 17:04:10 EST 2001
  
  more tips and tricks on using a keyboard flute
  
  Basically, 2 samples, one is the flute and next a separate set to sample for breath.
  Just need to mix these 2 in the right proportion,
  
  Giving the breath at right points,
  control note movements - like a flutist cannot blow from a C4 -- c6, make sure Wheeling and modulation are controlled perfectly. Dont over do the wheel, I was doing it before, thanks to many (Sridharseetharaman etc)who pointed it out.
  Body language, flute sound changes as per the body language, then choose a scale that matches for flute,.
  finally compose a tune for the flute.
  how to do this...is the thozil ragasiyam:)
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Fri Mar 16 17:05:10 EST 2001
  
  hey, i just mentioned the "phrases" "reminded me of". i didn't mean anything else. the reason i keep visiting this page often is i get to see some original work (some of them being really good is besides the point :-) ).
  
  
• From: comment (@ 63.225.175.101) on: Fri Mar 16 17:07:22 EST 2001
  
  arul;, i know you, you know me...we are music fan..
  sing in barney's song style :)
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Fri Mar 16 17:07:33 EST 2001
  
  from your "how to do" it seems like it's easier to learn to play flute and then play! :-)))
  
  
• From: comment (@ 63.225.175.101) on: Fri Mar 16 17:13:57 EST 2001
  
  hihi...: is learning and playing flute that easy :)
  btw:; i have tricks for many more instruments :)
  
  
• From: ADitya (@ 160.231.1.110) on: Fri Mar 16 17:19:37 EST 2001
  
  Comment:
  
  Is it possible to get Carnatic Gamakas with the tweaking of Sample.
  
  Regards,
  Aditya
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 206.150.228.62) on: Fri Mar 16 17:48:44 EST 2001
  
  Comment,
  
  Flute is amazing - I am going to call you the digital chaurasia! It is very close to real playing. Only in few places the keyboard is seen.
  Your mastery shows in avoiding what will spoil the
  flute feel. That is not easy!
  
  Great job!
  rjay
  
  PS: The cellos are majestic too. In fact they are more convincing as real instruments!
  The sound overall has more space. Triton entices me everyday.
  
  
  
• From: Observer (@ 144.92.164.198) on: Fri Mar 16 18:04:27 EST 2001
  
  So many talented musicians wasted on "light" music!
  
  Why don't all of you attempt classical compositions (ICM or WCM)? Is it just because you'll have fewer listeneers? I guess that shouldn't be a big factor since most people giving feedback here seem to like classical music. I strongly believe that classical music is the *best* since it is so highly evolved.
  
  Or even if you did stick to light music, why are all pieces so short? All your pieces, although good to listen to, need to be elaborated.
  
  This is a big complaint I have against film music too - it caters to the average listener and so is necessarily short, which I believe doesn't test the composer's ability to sustain a good musical idea and build upon it. What a loss to classical music that talents like MSV and IR are busy giving light music!
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 206.150.228.62) on: Fri Mar 16 18:11:00 EST 2001
  
  Observer,
  
  Your points are very right. To stick to one instrument and one raga/mood/tala and maintain it
  interesting and unique is the backbone of Indian classical and is tough to do. But I think Comment's latest flute performance approaches classical music.
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 192.138.149.4) on: Fri Mar 16 19:06:53 EST 2001
  
  rjay, you dont have to stick to a thalam.I am told L Sub plays the same raga for a thAlakkattu. I guess it cycles through various tAlams. 'Elaboration' is the key word. If I understand right, a keerthanai is an elaboration of a rAgam (a pattern). Once one is trained in this or able to do effortlessly then something like movie songs should be a trivial job.
  
  
• From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Fri Mar 16 19:44:21 EST 2001
  
  Comment that was very nice. Good job!
  
  
• From: comment (@ 63.225.175.101) on: Fri Mar 16 19:47:58 EST 2001
  
  a keerthanai is an elaboration of a rAgam (a pattern). -- applicable only to hindustani music only.
  
  I did this explain playing flute using keyboard,
  
  Observer, check my mp3 site, i have done full scores. Hear warriors, it is fusion flmenco+raga
  http://www.mp3.com/jsri
  
  btw:mp3.com is closing free sites soon.
  I just got an email.
  
  
• From: comment (@ 63.225.175.101) on: Sat Mar 17 17:00:26 EST 2001
  
  Is it possible to get Carnatic Gamakas with the tweaking of Sample.
  
  Aditya,good question,
  
  Sample is a raw sound, whereus Gamakas is an action that is applied on the sound.
  Like gliding from one to another, we hear the frequencies in between at a very high speed.
  
  Like if you have keyboard where you can control the sample parameters (Triton or 01/W ), there is a midi effect called as after touch, When the note is completed and if you still give a pressure on the key, an aft-touch event is fired.
  So keyboards like triton captures this event and you can perform some other action when this event occurs, like move the note up/down by some frequency. Like trigger the picth bend to occur when aftertouch fires..(similar SQL programming:)
  this works good for guitar, sitar kinds of sounds where the glide is needed., when you add fret noise to the main sample, we can fool the human ears to a great extent,
  This is one way,
  Best way is to practice hard with the picth bender, it takes time to control the pitch bender, but it not too hard. We can get excellent gamakas using this. I use pitch bender to get this feel, you should know which place to give a bend, basically you should think the natural players, like when you play bass you should know the basics of bass playing.
  
  Finally the score you play/compose has to be worth while, if you play "Aada alemelu', it sucks even wiht a natural instrument.
  
  Let me know if you have any questions.
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.110) on: Mon Mar 19 10:25:03 EST 2001
  
  Hi Guys:
  
  What's your comment on Korg PA80 and Roland's VariPhrase Technology?
  
  In KARMA, isn't possible to program your own patterns or are they generated randomly by the system?
  
  Regards,
  Aditya
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 192.138.149.4) on: Mon Mar 19 11:47:40 EST 2001
  
  Looks like you guys are trying to replace actual music playing, which is a mind-body coordination with programming which is purely a mental exercise :) :) (event model programming is too much :) :) trust Americans to take technology anywhere).
  I guess its like in those sci-fi movies physical joys replaced by direct input to the cortex :)
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.110) on: Mon Mar 19 12:15:51 EST 2001
  
  Kiru:
  
  That's a nice comparison. Sometimes I feel the technology is driven on the following good/bad notions - whatever it's they are trying to make as good as possible.
  
  - Lack of Good Team who can respect/listen and perform what the composer wants. So the composer have to do it by themselves.
  - future musicians will be so narrow minded that they donot want to share the credit with a team. Everything can be played on one instrument.
  - The future musicians are not in a good position to communicate to a team member as to how a particular piece has to be played. Because they can do everything on this kind of instrument.
  
  All said and done - The music is much bigger than what this technology is all about. They just present them in nicer fashion.
  
  Regards,
  Aditya
  
  
• From: comment (@ 216.160.72.146) on: Mon Mar 19 12:18:57 EST 2001
  
  The music is much bigger than what this technology is all about. They just present them in nicer fashion.
  
  
  well said...
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Mon Mar 19 13:58:51 EST 2001
  
  hi kiru: that's not scifi anymore. there are some "cortical prosthetics" in research which are tried out on blind people to make them "see"!?!? :-)
  
  
• From: comment (@ 216.160.72.146) on: Mon Mar 19 15:35:12 EST 2001
  
  Imho, karma is a overkill, btw; has anyone tried or heard of the roland pharse sampler --- looks like we dont need singers anymore... :)
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 192.138.149.4) on: Mon Mar 19 16:09:16 EST 2001
  
  aruLaracan,
  How about some 'prosthetics' which will read MIDI files ? :) My wife is telling me I am spending too much on stereo equipment and all our budding composers dont wanna buy any new musical instruments either :) (guys ..its a joke..take it easy).
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.110) on: Mon Mar 19 18:23:58 EST 2001
  
  
  I have seen video demonstration of Variphrase - it's very impressive. A gal comes and sings something let's say in some raga ( phrase ). Variphrase ( samples )takes the phrase and then maps it on to the KB. Now the player variates the same phrase by playing the keys to sound it as though the singer has sung a different phrase. Amazing thing is that Pitch that the singer cannot touch was possible with this technology.
  
  I feel if the composer is bad in singing then he should use this as a backup to communicate to a professional singer. Sing something that you're comfortable and play it on KB what you want the singer to learn and sing better:-)) Yes we need real singer in this case and music will sound better. I would see this as a design mode than as a performance mode.
  
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 24.4.252.137) on: Tue Mar 20 07:46:23 EST 2001
  
  Hi Guys:
  
  Just in case you want to read an article on Triton. I know we should be discussing about music here but sometimes we want to share what has been going in the technology.
  
  http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/jun99/articles/korgtriton.htm
  
  Regards,
  Aditya
  
  

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