
Topic started by Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 67.83.146.59) on Mon Apr 7 15:33:24 EDT 2003.
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http://www.thiruvasakaminsymphony.com/v_eng.htm#8a
Official audio release from Ilaiyaraaja.
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- From: kumar (@ 157.95.211.50)
on: Tue Jan 27 14:46:32 EST 2004
Thiru,
How much are you making in this venture?
- From: kumar (@ 157.95.211.50)
on: Tue Jan 27 14:46:42 EST 2004
SSS,
How much are you making in this venture?
- From: kumar (@ 157.95.211.50)
on: Tue Jan 27 14:47:15 EST 2004
Thiru,
Please ignore that post. It was a typo
- From: SSS (@ 66.57.14.197)
on: Tue Jan 27 15:36:38 EST 2004
How much we are making??? mmmmmm......all your love[bad words included], your awareness, your contributions for a noble cause and most of all, all the chances to getting to know some wonderful people while in this project!!
You haven't asked this but let us reply the other too!
"How much we are losing?"
All our time, money and peace of mind[sometimes when we get toread mails from you and the likes! But, it is only momentary and the nobility of the project makes us forget this! So, never mind, you dont succeed!]
P.S. Didn't really want to answer such mails but thanks for giving an opportunity to shed some weight off us!!This will be the last time we do such things!!
YIA !!
- From: SSS (@ 66.57.14.197)
on: Tue Jan 27 15:42:09 EST 2004
As an after thought, we have decided to introduce to you all what is "Thiruvasakam" !! Expect our commentary for a few verses everyday from tomorrow in this thread. Then, you will know the greatness of what we are talking about. It's our mistake. We should have started this long time back! You had asked for it! Enjoy!!
"namasivAya vAzhga" !!
YIA.
- From: Thiru (@ 210.214.132.82)
on: Tue Jan 27 16:01:10 EST 2004
Triple S,
Wheather its a service or a paid dream its upto the people to make it a success or a flop.
If its a service then well and good.
And Don't worry i won't post a message in this thread bad mouthing TIS again, it is up to people to decide.
My intention was, not to glorify any paid dream thats all.
Good luck.
- From: SR (@ 216.127.82.97)
on: Tue Jan 27 16:01:51 EST 2004
triple S,
pullarikuthu...what a wordly knowledge you are gifted with. please do share.....i'll read it.
by the way,
I AM NOT SEEING any of your (triple SSS) name in the donors list. HOW MUCH DID YOU GIVE?
SR
- From: rajafan (@ 63.196.0.54)
on: Wed Jan 28 01:00:37 EST 2004
hi,
i'm an ardent fan of ilayaraja and his music. i'm still puzzled at why, "SSS" has still not posted any relevant details about the project, in terms of who the singers are. its been promised for a while and still there is no news. can you pls post some info?
thanks
- From: SSS (@ 67.83.146.59)
on: Wed Jan 28 18:31:21 EST 2004
I would like to know the person who promised you details about singers involved in this project. To the extent that I know, I am sure that none of us from the team, made such promise.
If it happened so, we take full responsibility. I would like to let you know that we can't publish such information.
We are definitely responsible to publish the progress made so far. We will do that before end of this week. We made some significant strides last week.
- From: SSS (@ 66.57.14.197)
on: Wed Jan 28 22:11:59 EST 2004
"namacivaaya vaazhga!
naadhan thaaL vaazhga !
imaip pozhudhum yen nenjil
neengaadhaan thaaL vaazhga!!"
The above 4 lines are the opening verses of "Thiruvaasakam" written by the Saint MAANickavaasagar, who is worshipped as one of the "nAAlvar" [the foursome] in the Saivaa tradition. These verses also form the opening verses of "Civapuraanam", meaning the glory of Civaa. It has 95 verses!!
Here he salutes the glory of Lord Civaa as the the embodiment of the five elements which are called 'na', 'ma', 'ci', 'vaa', and 'ya', meaning the earth, water, fire, air, and the sky [nilam, neer, neruppu, kaatRu and aagaayam] respectively. As the Controller of these 5 elements, HE should be hailed and HIS feet are hailed. He further goes on to say that such a magnificient Person resides ALWAYS in our hearts, whether we realize HIM or not and to such a Divine form, MV offers his salutations. "namacivaaya" also means the 5 lettered sacred word for Lord Civaa as nama-civaaya, meaning salutations to Lord civaa.
I want you to contemplate on this holy thought and how we either realize HIS presence in us, either all the time or some times only or never at all and in spite of that how the Lord is always offering all these five elements all the time to all of us and how we misuse, neglect, refuse, dont share, and disregard their permanent presence amidst us. Just a thought, I urge you to consider and contemplate.
This is only the beginning and if you want us to stop, we will do so!!
BTW, do not forget to visit the TiS website tomorrow for an on-the-spot account of IIR's visit to USA last week. www.thiruvasakaminsymphony.com/us_team.html
Also, do not forget to send your contribution in favor of "TNF" and mail it to one of us asap. It is HAPPENING!!!
YIA!!
- From: SR (@ 216.127.82.97)
on: Thu Jan 29 09:43:32 EST 2004
Dear SSS,
Quote: ""How much we are losing?"
All our time, money and peace of mind".
Just curious, why among the 48 donors list, neither of 'S' name is present.
don't the organisers want to contribute? if not, why should they ask others?
SR
- From: sunitha (@ 68.163.163.233)
on: Thu Jan 29 11:46:20 EST 2004
good question SR
Sunitha
- From: * (@ 161.114.64.74)
on: Thu Jan 29 12:26:37 EST 2004
SR/ambleen: instead of consistent digressions like this why dont u pile up all your questions and fire in one shot? and pray what purpose is served by that?
vandhutaanunga!
- From: Mano. V (@ 211.18.209.18)
on: Thu Jan 29 14:17:01 EST 2004
*,
I have been a silent observer. I think a valid concern has been raised. You are infact, digressing from the subject.
I don't think anybody would pinch in 5 crores if Thiruvasagam is composed by Kunnakudi or some other MD.
just for the sake of ilayarja, people are trying to contribute. There is no point in 'quoting' verses from thiruvasagam, when 'reality' knocks your door. This is kind of an escapism.
Let us see what SSS has to say instead of digressing to the questions raised as they only said that they have been spending money, and time.
Mano. V
- From: SSS (@ 199.90.34.67)
on: Thu Jan 29 17:01:25 EST 2004
If the 'SR', 'sunitha' 'Mano.V' and the likes are prepared to match it, we are ready to declare our contributions! No digressions-- let's do straight talking! Are you game?
'poRumaikkum oru yellai uNdu
purindhu koNdaal palan uNdu'
YIA !!
- From: SSS (@ 66.57.14.197)
on: Thu Jan 29 20:02:54 EST 2004
gogazhi aaNda gurumaNi
than thaaL vaazhga!
aagamam aagi ninRu
aNNippaan thaaL vaazhga!
yEkan anEkan iraivan adi vaazhga!
YIA !!
- From: venus (@ 4.61.196.41)
on: Thu Jan 29 21:59:40 EST 2004
SSS,
I like your answer to the "digression".
- From: mnt (@ 198.73.152.100)
on: Thu Jan 29 22:32:04 EST 2004
SSS,
where is the 'explanation' for the second set of verses?
Eagerly awaiting
- From: SR (@ 216.127.82.97)
on: Fri Jan 30 09:21:14 EST 2004
SSS,
very smart reply. As the other person pointed out. It is a good way to 'escape' from the question putforth straight.
I would love to see what the 48 donors to say on your stand.
Question was : did u contribute or not?
Your answer is: nee podu naanum podaren. Appo pottavan (48) eillaaam?????
I raised the question, because you posted that your were getting sick of reading the postings by others, and you were spending your time, money etc.
So ultimately,
YOU HAVE NOT CONTRIBUTED ANYTHING in terms of money. (this is quite evident from your reply) This is not a game for you. DON"T make it as a game. Don't be childish.
This is public venture.
YOU ARE ANSWERABLE to the public who has put in their money and who are planning to put their money.
Rendu peru 'jalra' potta.....don't give suthi valaicha answers.
Do it professionally man!. And answer professionally.
SR
- From: SSS (@ 199.90.34.67)
on: Fri Jan 30 09:27:42 EST 2004
'gOgazhi', there are different meanings for this word.
1. To attain knowledge or realization, one needs a guru. He is the one who can take you across the sea of ignorance. So, here, gOgazhi means the sea of ignorance.
2. However much a parent may play a part in the generation of a child, the final act of that child entering this world is in the hands of God or Nature, whatever one may wish to call it. Here the word assumes a different meaning.
3. It is also generally referred to as the abode where God or the Supreme Force resides.
You may take whatever that pleases you from the above. To that Force, I offer my salutations at HIS/ITS feet!
HE is the Way, path and the one who regulates that path. To HIM, I offer my salutations at HIS feet. Remember Jesus' words-- I am the way, path and the Truth- and see the Universality in this verse!
HE is one[yEkan] but at the same time HE dwells in every living and non-living creatures[anEkan]. For example, IIR is one ordinary individual like any of us but he is able to transcend into all of us thru his music. If an ordinary mortal like IIR can make us feel this statement, imagine the FORCE that is responsible for all of our existence!
You should understand that Saint MV was an ordinary minister in the PANdiya kingdom but later was transformed into a noble civanadiyaar by God's grace. Hence, the agnostics and the atheists should remember that these verses are in praise of GOD whom he believed and should not attempt to ignore the tone and the mood.
Enough for now; more later!
"namacivaaya vaazhga!"
YIA !!
Please dont forget to send in your checks in favor of "TNF"!
And, watch "NUMTV"!
- From: SSS (@ 199.90.34.67)
on: Fri Jan 30 09:34:18 EST 2004
Dear 'SR',
Pl. read our reply one more time. We said 'WE ARE READY TO DECLARE'[not 'we will put'] which means it is already there! Enough said.
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