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Raga of song please

Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.

The popular notation used on this page. The twelve notes of an octave are the following.

1   2   3   4   5   6   7  8   9  10  11  12
S  R1  R2  R3  G3  M1  M2  P  D1  D2  D3  N3
       G1  G2                     N1  N2

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From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.182.233) on: Thu Jul 25 11:46:48 EDT 2002

R Sundar,I haven't heard of this rAgA.Didn't u note the ArO,ava?
It comes along with the other details like the bhAvam of the rAgA etc.-if u've watched all this,pl. give a detailed update.
From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.156) on: Thu Jul 25 12:22:39 EDT 2002

Ivan songa.
ennai enna seidhaay-Starts with Simmendra Madhyamam goes to Lathangi,Mohanam,Hindolam,Nattai,Kalyani,Chandrakauns,then comes back to Simmendra Madhyamam.

KaNNan en naadha Ovium-Sriranjani,

enakinai yaar-Mayamalava gowLai,

Bhajanai seivom-harikambodhi(I guess)

appadi parkarathellam-Kedaram/Shankarabaranam(suddenly shoots to Vasanta/hamsanandhi)

Meltop-Shankarabaranam base I guess
From: s0 (@ 128.119.85.50) on: Thu Jul 25 14:03:35 EDT 2002

romba thanks, Ram. Kannan.. sounded very much like Naadham Ezhundhadhadi, which is also Sriranjani.
From: sk (@ 202.156.2.6) on: Thu Jul 25 15:46:36 EDT 2002

Sindhuja:

I am continuing to record the Rudra Veenai. Here
are the details...

A man working in a closed hut with little air flow
loses breath and is hurriedly brought outside in
a state where he is having a hard time breathing.
The rudra veena man plays padharikA and that helps
the sick man to regain a smooth, continuous breath.

indha rAgaththinai pAdum pOdhum kEtkum pOdhum
moochchuk kuzhaai, nuRaiyeeral aagiyavatril ERpadum
adaippu neengi, moochchu moolAdhAraththinai
sendradaivadhai uNaralAm.

Arohana: s r1 g2 m2 p m2 n2 n1 n2 s
Avarohana: s n2 d1 g2 r1 s

(I am not sure if the notations used are same as
the ones mentioned at the top of this thread.)

I hope this helps.
From: IR (@ 4.64.204.47) on: Thu Jul 25 16:09:19 EDT 2002

sk - thanks for posting information on all these ragas - we really appreciate ur service to the ROS folks :-)

moozhzhu thiNaral e vandhudum pOlarkke indha notes paarkum bodhu :-)
From: IR (@ 4.64.204.47) on: Thu Jul 25 17:20:05 EDT 2002

z = c
From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.156) on: Thu Jul 25 18:31:17 EDT 2002

sK,
IR munnuraithathai naan vazhi mozhigirEn:-)
From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.208) on: Thu Jul 25 20:53:06 EDT 2002

sk,tnx..Since u'r saying u'r not sure of the swarA numbers,can u give some referance for the numbers given by u above in terms of ragAs?i.e something like R1-"the mAyAmALavagowLa Ri" and so on.(of course except Ma,which is way too obvious)
b'coz anda swaram ellAm pAthu onnume puriyilai,as IR has said.
From: sk (@ 137.132.3.9) on: Thu Jul 25 22:20:45 EDT 2002

Sindhuja:

I have exactly copied what was written on the screen. When I return home tonight, let me check
the tape for the ragas of earlier week and try
to figure out the notations used.

If we assume the notations mentioned at the top
of this thread, i.e.,
s r1 r2(g1) r3(g2) g3 m1 m2 p d1 d2(n1) d3(n2) n3 s
then the raga is probably a janyam of Bhavapriya.

On the other hand, if we use the
s r1 r2 g1 g2 m1 m2 p d1 d2 n1 n2 s
notation then padharika is probably a janyam of
Kamavardhini.

I don't know which of these notations is standard.
From: satsona (@ 203.199.192.162) on: Fri Jul 26 00:55:15 EDT 2002

Vel
i don't rem this song fully, but as per the Pallavi, 'yamini yamini' from YNRAI is in Kaanada, IMHO.

Ragapravaham Sundar
sorry i am unable to recollect the song "Sangathamizh kaviye" of Manathil uruthi vendum. if any link to the song is there, pls let me know.

cheers
From: Peter Pan (@ ) on: Fri Jul 26 01:24:07 EDT 2002

Thanks Ragapravaham Sundar & Sindhuja..

Can someone throw some light on the HindustAni raga called 'MAlagunji' please?

I believe the following songs are tuned in MAlagunji:

1. NAn ENNum pozhudu (AzhiyAdha kOlangaL- SPB MD: Salil Chaudhry); Salil used his earlier creation in the Hindi hit 'Anand': 'NA jiyA lAgE nA', sung by Lata.
2. VeeNai meettum kaigaLe mAlai sootta vA, mAlai soottum kaigaLe veeNai meetta vA (an SJ gem, MD: IR)
3. Mathappoovu oru pENNA AgAthA, mallippoovu reNdu kaNNA AgAthA (Michael Madana Kama Rajan- Chitra, MD: IR. This rare, beautiful song appeared only in the 1st edition of the cassette)
4. The popular Jhanak Jhanak PAyal bAjE number, 'Nain so nain nahin milao'
5. Looks like 'Ni Sa Ga Ma Pa Ni Sa Re Ga.. Aa re mitwA' from the Hindi film, Swami (Yesudas) is also based on mAlagunji.

Any other songs in TFM? Can somebody provide the ArOhaNa and avarOhaNa for this HindustAni rAga?
Thanks.
From: vel (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Fri Jul 26 06:37:00 EDT 2002

thanks satsona :-).

Satsona, i was thinking if you have heard to 'En Kanavinai Kel Nanba' from film "Desiya Geedham" by Ilaiyaraaja. The song's pallavi is "samudrapriya" and charanam is "sumanesa ranjni". There is light touch of Ma1. Try it in your keyboard & let us all know.
From: sk (@ 202.156.215.206) on: Fri Jul 26 07:28:36 EDT 2002

I checked the rudra veena previous episodes.
They are following the
s r1 r2 g1 g2 m1 m2 d1 d2 n1 n2 s
notation (different from what is given at the top
of this thread). Going by that, it is clear that
padharika is a janyam of melam 51 Kamavardhini.

I also copied the avarohana of padharika wrongly.
Please ignore the earlier one I gave. The correct
notations (as copied from the episode) are:

Arohana: s r1 g2 m2 p m2 n2 d1 n2 s
Avarohana: s n2 d1 g2 r1 s

I just referred to the book Ragapravaham. This
raga is indeed mentioned in the list of janyams of
Kamavardhini. The name given there is Badrika.
From: sk (@ 202.156.215.206) on: Fri Jul 26 07:31:00 EDT 2002

Correction:

I also copied the avarohana of padharika wrongly.

should read

I also copied the arohana of padharika wrongly.
From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.22) on: Fri Jul 26 08:17:55 EDT 2002

tnx. sk.
From: sk (@ 137.132.3.9) on: Fri Jul 26 21:05:50 EDT 2002

Sindhuja, IR, Ram:

It just occurred to me that there is probably no
raga by the name padharikaa. The rudra veena folks
had written the four Tamil letters, pa dha ri kaa.
It is quite possible that they forgot to put the dot
over the letter dha. With the pa/ba confusion we
(R Sundar and I) just mistook the name of the
raga to be padharikaa. So the raga is actually
Badrika.

The rudra veena folks seem to be making such errors at
crucial places when typing. I also remember that they missed
ri in the avarohana of Hamsanandhi two weeks ago.
Of course, all their claims about the effects
associated with the mentioned ragas is unverified.
Have any of you been able to find more info on this?
Perhaps someone living in Madras can contact them
and try to get references for their claims.
From: sk (@ 137.132.3.9) on: Fri Jul 26 21:14:25 EDT 2002

I do not know much about these twisted ragas. In
Badrika, for example, does it mean that if we
want to ascend from ga to the sa of the higher
octave, then the sequence
ga ma pa ma ni dha ni sa
has to be necessarily executed? Is it possible
that it is this up and down movement that gives
some special feel for this raga?
From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.156) on: Fri Jul 26 21:26:54 EDT 2002

sk,
Thanx for the updates...they are really interesting
From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.186.4) on: Sat Jul 27 08:09:52 EDT 2002

sk,does it mean that if we
want to ascend from ga to the sa of the higher
octave, then the sequence
ga ma pa ma ni dha ni sa
has to be necessarily executed? >>
As far as my knowledge goes,yes.
To u'r 2nd question I don't have an answer.
Even I have always wondered how/why rAgAs have an influence on the body/mind/soul.It' really intrguing.
Will try to search something on this.
From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.184) on: Sat Jul 27 10:18:55 EDT 2002

typo-intriguing
From: PeterPan (@ 170.140.252.95) on: Sat Jul 27 12:51:46 EDT 2002

Any info. on the HindustAni raga 'MAlagunji'?
Thanks
From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.74) on: Sat Jul 27 13:29:06 EDT 2002

http://www.soundofindia.com/
click on "raagas" on the left side under which u have to look for mAlgunji.
It is ShankarAbharaNam sans Pa in the ascent;and HarikAmbodhi in the descent.
From: sk (@ 202.156.2.6) on: Sat Jul 27 20:12:21 EDT 2002

Sindhuja:

Thanks. Can you name some twisted raga and also
a particular song in that raga in which I can easily
appreciate the importance of the ups and downs
in the swaras?

I also look forward to any info you can find on the
rudra veena claims.
From: Peter Pan (@ 170.140.250.178) on: Sat Jul 27 20:21:14 EDT 2002

Thanks Sindhuja.
I listened to the Aro-AvarO. In the avarOhaNa, he sings S N2 D2 P M1 G3 M1 G2 R2 S..
Interesting twist to HarikAmbOdhi.

Could you please confirm if the songs
1. NAn ENNum pozhudu (nA jiyA lAgenA)
2. VeeNai meettum kaigaLe
3. Mathappoovu oru pennAgAthA
are mAlagunji? Thanks.
From: Sindhuja (@ 203.200.1.124) on: Sat Jul 27 21:28:21 EDT 2002

Peter Pan,will listen to those songs.
Tnx. for highlighting the Ga2 in the avarOhaNam-didn't notice that the rAgA had 2 Ga's.
From: C.D.PILLAI (@ 65.198.248.30) on: Sun Jul 28 04:14:55 EDT 2002

Dear Sir/Madam.

I play the box guitar.I require your help.
If I send you my list of songs could send me the chords for the songs.Mostly oden goldies

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