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Bass scores of Raja...

Topic started by Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on Sun Apr 25 09:07:54 EDT 1999.
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Let's discuss the brilliant bass scores of raja..

the first song that comes to mind is
ponvAnam panneer thoovudhu innEram from inru nee nALai nAn

2.en gAnam inru arangERum -EVK

Srinath ,take over :-))))

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Responses:

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• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112) on: Sun Apr 25 17:30:50 EDT 1999
  
  For salil da's fans: I shall be uploading (after 10 days or so :-( ) a lot of Salil's hindoi songs especially from the golden collection.
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112) on: Sun Apr 25 17:30:58 EDT 1999
  
  For salil da's fans: I shall be uploading (after 10 days or so :-( ) a lot of Salil's hindi songs especially from the golden collection.
  
  
• From: SRK (@ nova12.cs.wisc.edu) on: Sun Apr 25 17:32:56 EDT 1999
  
  MS: Which poongatrile song are you referring to?
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112) on: Sun Apr 25 17:36:23 EDT 1999
  
  From pattu paadavaa
  
  
• From: Raja Fan (@ spider-th034.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Apr 25 18:54:34 EDT 1999
  
  MS and Srinath: Thanks much for the wonderful replies. Srinath, some of golden oldies of Salil's songs are Malayalam versions of his original Bengali numbers. They are the first 9 songs in this URL. Song 9 is fascinating.
  
  http://www.yesudas.com/malayalam_yesudas.html
  
  Please tell us how you feel about Salilda's mastery of the harmony, chord and bass
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112) on: Sun Apr 25 19:44:27 EDT 1999
  
  Raja fan:
  
  I think you have given the wrong link. The link hosts songs which have not been composed by Salil.
  
  
• From: Raja Fan (@ spider-th044.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Apr 25 19:52:03 EDT 1999
  
  MS, please go to the left frame and click on Old is gold, the first one. The songs Mana Keley Thathe, O Aayilam Padathtey Penney and Kaadu Karutha Kaadu are special numnbers in relation to this topic of Srinath.
  
  Srinath, your observations will be awaited. Thank you
  
  
• From: suren (@ asn20-167.mcmail.com) on: Sun Apr 25 20:58:20 EDT 1999
  
  
  Ennappa pesuringa, puriyalaiye....
  
  
• From: Madhan. (@ 202.41.117.101) on: Sun Apr 25 23:07:41 EDT 1999
  
  Modesty thy name is Srinath : even without having any indepth technical knowledge of WCM, you have attempted a fantastic explanation of bass, chords etc.. and you have to a great extent succeeded in your attempt.
  
  I would like to include these songs for bass scores as well :
  
  "Vaan megam " from Punnagai Mannan - I have a friend here who has been playing the guitar for the last 15 years - when I played this song to him just to show him the wonderful buildup of the tune and the tempo it carries with it , the violin festival celebration in the interlude, he was the one who pointed out to me the out-of-the-world bass score - he repeatedly asked me "How did this guy manage this yaar?!"
  
  "Vaaniley then nila" from Kaaki Chattai - listen this is an AIWA walkman with good headphones - even a layman can actually experience the beauty of the bass which just runs riot, especially in the pallavi.
  
  "Rangulalo" , "Prema ledhani", "YEdhuta neevey" all from Abinandana in Telugu (forgive me Ravi, if this mention of Telugu songs is a digression from this thread) have trademark IR novelty written all over them - especially, the song 'Prema ledhani' when the line ends "preminsa raadhani" the bass guitar carries the tune to the second part of the pallavi - "Saatchani neevani nannu nedu chaatani, O priya" and between this last word and " jo haarulo" which immediately follows it, the bass again accentutates the tune beautifully - Srinath, somehow or the other you get hold of this album by IR in Telugu and listen and give you expert opinion on it.
  
  
• From: Madhan (@ 202.41.117.101) on: Sun Apr 25 23:10:35 EDT 1999
  
  "Give you expert opinion" should read as "give your expert expert opinion" and "listen this" should be read as " listen to this" in the above posting...
  
  
• From: Madhan (@ 202.41.117.101) on: Sun Apr 25 23:10:44 EDT 1999
  
  "Give you expert opinion" should read as "give your expert expert opinion" and "listen this" should be read as " listen to this" in the above posting...
  
  
• From: Rex (@ grad-1.ise.ufl.edu) on: Mon Apr 26 00:11:56 EDT 1999
  
  Shankar & Srinath:
  
  I will try to upgrade the "Ponvaanam Panner Thoovudhu Inneram" song to 32 KBPS Stereo mode..or 20.7 KBPS mono mode to capture the bass even more...
  
  Check out for the update posting in my thread on late Monday or early Tuesday....
  
  What about the astounding bass in "Thendral vanthu theendum pothu" (AVATHARAM).......check this one out in my site....Almost all IR songs are so fabulous if you can only concentrate on his bass....
  
  Again...."Megam Kottatum" (ENAKKUL ORUVAN) is a classic example for his skills of providing fantastic bass.....
  
  
• From: guru_charaNam_nAdhA_thiruvadi_charaNam (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Mon Apr 26 10:08:08 EDT 1999
  
  Sri,
  thanx for that wonderful write up. In fact I'm planning to lsiten to the songs u've mentioned with ur write up next to me (I'm serious ,man)
  
  SM,
  check my mail id ;-)))))
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ s06.austin.ibm.com) on: Mon Apr 26 11:18:44 EDT 1999
  
  Raja Fan:
  I'll give my response to Salilda's songs later today after I get home.
  
  Madhan:
  "Vaan Megham"'s bass is played on the keyboard, I think. Moreover, it seems to be a full octave higher than a regular bass guitar. I liked only certain portions of it, like the last few lines in the Pallavi and Charanam, when the bass dips down to a lower pitch. But yes, overall that is also a very good example of IR's creativity with the bass !
  
  
• From: Rex (@ pppa47-resalegainesvillefl1-3r1052.saturn.bbn.com) on: Mon Apr 26 13:36:31 EDT 1999
  
  ATTENTION....
  
  Related to this thread, some useful discussion is going on at "NEW PAGE FOR RARE HITS OF ILAYARAAJA" thread. Please do not fail to check this out, as the cynosure of this thread --"Ponvaanam Panneer" song is going to be uploaded as very high quality audio files to my site.
  
  Also some discussion on Encoding stuff related to capturing BASS in IR's songs is going on there.
  
  Check out that thread too.
  
  Thanks,
  Rex
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112) on: Mon Apr 26 14:10:02 EDT 1999
  
  Raja fan,
  
  You are right. Have you heard "Chota sa gar hoga" ? I tis in malayalam as "ponnaram pookumbOL". Alilting duet
  
  Sorry folks for digressing to Salil da. Let us get back to IR
  
  
• From: Anand Mahadevan (@ freedum.proxy.lucent.com) on: Mon Apr 26 14:33:14 EDT 1999
  
  Some of my fav bass movements.
  Maharajnodu -satileelavathy (beginning of first pallavi)
  poo theene theene vaa -vellai roja
  O Maane Maane -"
  Poongatrile -paatu paadva(Complete rythym in bass.Outstanding and very creative).
  Muthmani chudare vaa-Anbulla Rajanikant(Great pace and whoever played must have had a tough time).
  Thendral vaandu theendum -Avathaaram
  pazhamudhir cholai -varusham 16(A classic and a must for bass guitar tutorial)
  
  Guess the list will be endless but the above are my all time favs for bass.
  
  
  
• From: Mr.Kuzapam (@ 206.139.13.152) on: Mon Apr 26 14:38:50 EDT 1999
  
  Srinath:
  Vanmegam: Yes Bass is played on the keyBoard,
  IR uses the same bass sound in "thedral than"
  in keladi kannamani. - awesome! bass score.
  
  Many songs in Anjali also have keyboard bass scores. In Vetri viza, there is song will full slap bass programed using R8drum module and DX7 keyboard. I do not get the starting lines.
  
  
• From: Rex (@ lab-158-60.circa.ufl.edu) on: Mon Apr 26 14:49:50 EDT 1999
  
  UPLOADS UPDATE (Attention: "Bass of Raaja Tunes" thread visitors)
  
  The mega hit song of TFM, "Ponvaanam Panneer Thoovuthu", has motivated you guys to start a separate thread to ponder on Raaja's
  skills in providing good bass to his songs....That is good.
  
  Therefore, I have uploaded the song under 3 different playback modes for you guys to enjoy and appreciate more of Raaja's bass....
  
  1. Song #6 (Song # 258.B) - ORIGINAL STEREO FILE that was uploaded around February 10th. This file plays in STEREO Mode
  and 20 KBPS and was encoded using RealAudio encoder. NO G2 NEEDED.
  
  2. Song # 258.A - MONO FILE uploaded today. Plays in 20.7 Kbps. Loaded specially for 28 K Modem users to enjoy the high
  quality content.G2 NEEDED.
  
  3. Song # 258.C - STEREO FILE uploaded today. Plays in 32 Kbps mode. Uploaded specially for 56 K and higher speed
  connections to enjoy high quality content. G2 NEEDED.
  
  Please pass your comments here.
  
  Thanks,
  Rex
  
  
• From: Rex (@ lab-158-60.circa.ufl.edu) on: Mon Apr 26 14:50:40 EDT 1999
  
  And the site is:
  
  http://members.tripod.com/ilayaraaja/
  
  
  
• From: Madhan (@ 202.41.117.61) on: Mon Apr 26 14:50:54 EDT 1999
  
  Mr.Kuzhapam,
  
  Are you talking about "Ponngaatru un per sollu" by SPB and Chitra , or is it "Thathhom Thalaangu thathhhom" by SJ and SPB ?
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ unknown-48-23-144.mattel.com) on: Mon Apr 26 14:53:46 EDT 1999
  
  Srinath,
  
  Thanks for the wonderful exposition. I would welcome you to www.swara.com and check out
  Oororama Aathupakkam, Rakkamma (Dalapathy) and Devanin Koyil.
  
  Would really appreciate your and others opinion on the technical quality of the recordings. This would be very valuable to me in improving the overall quality of the listening experience.
  
  
• From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com) on: Mon Apr 26 15:14:30 EDT 1999
  
  Yappa srinathu:
  Indha bassna innannu konjam "padam varaindhu kurippu ezhutharaiya".
  Adhavadhu, Indha paattula indha line-ku appuram varum indha piece is from a bass guitarnu example ellaam koduthu vilakkinaa thaan ennai maadhiri makkungalukku puriyum. Bass guitarukkum Rhythm guitarukkumd difference inna? Appearance-la difference irukkuma? Indha maadhiri LKG level-le irundhu paadam edu ppa. Direct-aa oru Phd thesis pottutta. nee. Ennai maadhiri KG-ngalukku puriyalai.
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ s02.austin.ibm.com) on: Mon Apr 26 15:40:33 EDT 1999
  
  Raj:
  Later today perhaps, aapisla romba velai :-(
  
  Ravi:
  I have visited your site ! It is wonderful ! But I haven't spent much time there and will certainly visit it often in the future. I think we could even refer your page or Rex's (or MPRs or MS's or ...;-)) to point out songs with good bass scores ! then people can visit the sites and listen and judge for themselves ! Just one thing to note, "Devanin Koil" was very clear (I wanted to compare it with Rex's as I felt his previous recording of the same song had some minor problems) and this is what I found - "Devanin Koil" in your site is slightly slow in tempo. Hope you can correct this problem some time soon ! But the audio quality is too good and so is the song selection ! Thanks !
  
  

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