Raga of song please
Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
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The popular notation used on this page. The twelve notes of an octave are the following.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 S R1 R2 R3 G3 M1 M2 P D1 D2 D3 N3 G1 G2 N1 N2
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- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.124)
on: Tue May 28 03:42:42 EDT 2002
Experts:-),
I would like to know about various Ragas and the moods they
represent...for ex. SubhaPantuvaraLi for sOgam,Gambeera Nattai for
Veeram(remember Sapoorna Ramayanam)....is there a big list available
for each emotion?...
vaazhkaila uruupadiya mudhal muraiyaa oru kElvi kaettu
irukken...thayavu senju bathil pOdungappa.
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.124)
on: Tue May 28 04:19:12 EDT 2002
IR_Fan,
Have u heard the song "Indha Mamanoda Manasu" in film Uthama Raasa...i think it is kapi based....
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.124)
on: Tue May 28 04:23:38 EDT 2002
"Sontham Onrai Thedum AnnakiLi" from Enna Petha Raasa is GowriManohari I think(may be keeravani)
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.124)
on: Tue May 28 05:06:04 EDT 2002
"Malligaiye Malligaiye" in Periya Veettu Pannakaaran is MayamaLavaGouLai
- From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.78)
on: Tue May 28 05:17:54 EDT 2002
4 posts-a?udane Ram-oda manasAtchi-ttendu innonu varume -enge kAnum? ;-)
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.57)
on: Tue May 28 05:39:25 EDT 2002
Sindhuja:-)
- From: Sundar Atre (@ 130.203.164.150)
on: Tue May 28 07:37:14 EDT 2002
Ram, check this book: http://www.vedamsbooks.com/no15359.htm
paadam pustakham dhaan ambel, idhavaadhu seriya padeenga :)
- From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.182.199)
on: Tue May 28 13:21:52 EDT 2002
Ram,Vasantha-happiness,BhoopALam-for dawn....
- From: IR (@ 12.234.169.197)
on: Tue May 28 13:50:51 EDT 2002
IR_Fan - no, I did not get the audio file - endha mail id kku anuppineenga?
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Tue May 28 14:36:37 EDT 2002
IR,
en kElvikkenna bathil?
- From: Sundar Atre (@ 130.203.164.51)
on: Tue May 28 19:11:45 EDT 2002
khamaj: romance
kafi: peace
darbari - anger
bhairavi - sadness
BhairouN - grief
Purya Dhanasari - happiness
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.124)
on: Tue May 28 19:35:49 EDT 2002
Sundar,
Thank you:-)....Like to know what ragas like KeeravaNi,charukesi represent(we could not that ragas like keeravani are used in bunch of different situations)
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.124)
on: Tue May 28 19:44:34 EDT 2002
typo not=NOTE,to be more specific I'm looking for carnatic ragas...b'cos I'm trying to help an American in his project on "Carnatic music".IR,IR_FAn,Sindhuja,Sundar,MS.....please help:-)
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241)
on: Tue May 28 20:51:33 EDT 2002
all ragas = bhakti (courtesy - thyagaraja :-) )
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Tue May 28 22:57:26 EDT 2002
Happenned to Find one more raga in the ORs...Kamavardhini(Instigates erotic feelings....remember Hai Rama ye kya hua:-)
- From: Vasu (@ 66.136.199.178)
on: Tue May 28 23:00:29 EDT 2002
Ram,
here is a c&p from ragas of carnatic music by dr. s. bhagyalekshmi:
mukhari - sringara, sorrow due to seperation (vipralamba)
paras - vira
bilahari - aruna
ahiri, gaulipantu - karuna
arabhi - raudra
kambhoji - hasya
ghanta - bhayanka
varali - bhibatsa
hindustani behag - adbhuta
syama - santha
kedaragaula, bhairavi - bhakthi
bilahari, mohana - joy
nilambari - vatsalya
saveri - pathos, sattire
nata, kedaram - vira
yadukulakambhoji,asaveri - repentance
devagandhari - pride
surutti - various rasas
ritigaula, purvikalyani - pleading
kalyani - jealousy
bhupalam, malayamarutham - soothing effect
vasantha - loneliness
madhyamavathi - tranquilising effect
though dont ask me how & why :-). Not all may agree on same feeling. For eg im trying to see if i can be jealous of MS/IR by hearing kalyani ;-)
For some refreshing analysis suggest your friend to get "music of india: a scientific study" by b.chaitanya deva. There is a whole chapter devoted to raga rasa.
MS:
:-) good one.
- From: Vasu (@ )
on: Tue May 28 23:07:19 EDT 2002
Ram,
Kamavardhini ... hey rama etc..
You might want to seperate the raga from the lyrics for the feeling. Does the raga itself give arise a feeling or the feeling is based on the lyrics associated with it? If lyrics are associated, as MS said, all ragas evoke bhakti courtesy Sri Thyagaraja. If you listen to an alapana alone, imho the feeling might be different.
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Tue May 28 23:28:10 EDT 2002
Vasu,
thank you very much for those info....that will be helpful I guess:-)
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126)
on: Tue May 28 23:43:46 EDT 2002
Ram,
Somewhere I read as Kamavardhini is a.k.a PanthuvaraaLi. It is the name for panthuvaraaLi for some nomenclature scheme to fit its nomenclature formula. Hence Hai Rama giving erotic feeling is due to composer's experimentation.
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Wed May 29 00:00:40 EDT 2002
Vasu,Kupps,MS,
ellarum en ivalavvu serious aaiteenga....that statement was told in lighter vein....neway mannichudunga:-)
- From: satsona (@ 203.199.192.162)
on: Wed May 29 01:40:19 EDT 2002
hi IR fan
really sorry didnt see the forum for quite some days...due to network prob. here and also hectic work. Missed a lot of Info in the forum i believe:-)
for the song Azhage, i mainly wanted the starting notes since i was confused aboutthe grihabhedham.
<<...[but don't u think it shud be Dha2 Sa Ga2...?]...>>
no i think we both mean the same Note, but in different ways:-). i think u r more correct since u r using the 16-swara scheme, so u have 3 Gandhara -- Ga1, Ga2 and Ga3. I usually use the 12-swara scheme, i hope it is ok to use it.
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thanx a lot for remembering :). i will mail u my contact no. Either u or the person can contact me.
cheers
satsona
- From: satsona (@ 203.199.192.162) on: Wed May 29 03:15:03 EDT 2002
IR_fan
Help...i lost your mail-id, also i accidentally deleted the mails u sent to me.
kindly give your emailid.
thanx
- From: Sundar Atre (@ 130.203.164.107) on: Wed May 29 08:34:38 EDT 2002
To the erudite - pls explain these words:
bhibatsa, raudra, vatsalya
Yenna, Ram, erudite-na please explain gareengala? :)
- From: Anuradha (@ 68.49.138.51) on: Wed May 29 10:22:28 EDT 2002
Digression- Assistance needed:
Hello IR, Ram and others!
Can anyone get me the notations to play for
1. Raghupathi Raghava Rajaram
2. Indian National anthem
3. Vaishnava janatho
This is for playing on the flute and violin for my cousin's college show in chennai. i thought this is the right place to ask without much exertion from my side :-)
- From: Sundar Atre (@ 130.203.164.192) on: Wed May 29 19:30:45 EDT 2002
Ra ghu pa ti Ra gha va Ra ja Ra am
m m m m m g R g P PnDn
Pa ti ta Pa va n Si ta Raam
P d P m g R g dP P m
Ish wa r Al lah Te re Na am
D D D D DPn PDnP n
Sa b ko San ma ti De Bha g wan
P P n S r S n dPm
- From: Sundar Atre (@ 130.203.164.192) on: Wed May 29 19:34:42 EDT 2002
Vaishnava Janato words yellam out-of-syllabus ... MS/Sindhuja are the bosses on that one, I think
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241) on: Wed May 29 20:03:48 EDT 2002
Sundar - I had written down the notes for raghupathi too and it is shruthi-bedha notes :-) I placed Sa where u placed ma.hmm..
- From: Sundar Atre (@ 130.203.165.148) on: Wed May 29 20:12:23 EDT 2002
Ja na Ga na Ma na
S R G G G G
Adhi Na ya ka Ja ya he
G G G G G R G m
Bha ra tha Bha gya Vi dha ta
G G G R R R N R S
Pan ja b Sin dh Gu ja rat Ma ra tha
S P P P P P M P P m P P m
Dra vi da Ut kal (?) Ban ga
m m m G G G R m G
Vin dhya Hi ma chal Ya mu na Gan ga
G G G G G G R P P P m m m
Uch al (?) Ja la dhi ta ran ga
G G G R R R g R S
Ta va Su bha Na me Ja ge
S R G G G G R G m
Ta va Su bha Aa shi sha Ma ge (?)
G m P P P , m G R m G
Ja ye Ta va Ja ya Ga ta (???)
G G R R R R n R S
Ja na Ga na Man ga la dhina ya ka Ja ya he
P P P P P P P P P P M P
Bha ra tha Bha gya Vi dha ta
m m m G G G R m G
Ja ya He Ja ya He Ja ya He
S N S N D N P P D
Ja ya Ja ya Ja ya Ja ya He
S R G G G G R G m
... or something like that to initiate more controversy :))))
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241) on: Wed May 29 20:15:09 EDT 2002
Anu:
Ra|ghu|pa|thi
sa|sa|sa|sa
ra|aa|gha|va
sa|ri2sa|ni2|dha2
ra|ja
ni2|ri2
ra|aa|aa|am
ri2|ma1|ga3|ma1
pa|thee|tha
ri2|ga3|ri2
paa|va|na
sa|ni2|dha2
see|tha
niri2|ga2ri2
ram
sa
Ishwar| alla| terenaam
saga3ga3ga3| ga3ga3ga3ri2| ga3ma1paga3ma1
sabko| sanmathi| de| bhagwaan
ri2ri2ma1ma1| papadha1pa|ma1| ga2ri2
Ish|war| allaa| tere naam
ri2pa|pam1| ma1ga3ga3ri2|sasasa|sama1ga3ma1
sabko| san|mathi |de| bhagwaan
ri2ri2ga2ri2| sa|ni2da2| ni2| ga2ri2sa
- From: Sundar Atre (@ 130.203.165.148) on: Wed May 29 20:21:10 EDT 2002
Vaishnava Janato is set in Khamaj (Hari Khamboji)
Arohan: S G m P D N S'
Avarohan: S' n D P m G R S
Similar to the following HFMs:
Chunariya katati jae
O sajna, barkha bahara ayi - Parakh
Aayo kahanse ghanashyam - Buddha Mil Gaya
Bada natkhat hai...ka kare yashoda maiya - Amar Prem
Mere to giridharagopala - Meera
Nazar lagi raja tore bungle par - Kaala Pani
Kuch to log kahenge - Amar Prem
Guys tell me some TFMs to go with this
- From: satsona (@ 203.199.192.162) on: Wed May 29 03:15:03 EDT 2002
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