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Malaysian Deepavali Show - RAJANNA RAJA THAAN - From Annakkili to Azhagi

Topic started by Manisekaran (@ 202.156.2.8) on Sun Nov 7 05:23:27 EST 2004.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Last year I did a show on Ilayaraja for Deepavali. IT was so great a hit that the ASTRO Private TV Station is repeating on 9 NOvember at 4.00 pm Malaysian time. This is called RAJANNA RAJATHAAN- covering 25 years of Raja's music contribution. From Annakkili to Azhagi. A great hit. If you can, pls do catch it. You can post your comments on the show here, and I'll respond to them.
Thanks.

Archive of the older songs: http://forumhub.lunarpages.com/hub/f13.html .

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• From: k (@ 192.138.150.249) on: Wed Nov 24 13:49:41 EST 2004
  
  Yes, fans should check out the Janaki version. Thanks RR. It is possible to discuss one song of IR for quite a long time, when the lyrics are good it is a treat (like in Ethilum iruppaan song in bhArathi, which had a thread of its own).
  What makes the thread interesting it is just not the music..it is that Mani is a master storyteller !!!
  
  (eden..ennappa ithu 'next-door-man' ..girl-next-door thaan kElvipattirukkEn..san francisco typea irukku :))
  
  
• From: Anand (@ 83.216.154.253) on: Wed Nov 24 17:20:03 EST 2004
  
  Thanks, RR. Wonder how i missed out on that one !!! Can't wait for the next song !!
  
  
• From: RR (@ 202.156.2.8) on: Wed Nov 24 19:47:06 EST 2004
  
  k: SF type, *rotfl*
  
  It'll be interesting if someone can post the movie situation for the SJ version. This song is almost like a BGM.
  
  
• From: Manisekaran (@ 61.6.39.139) on: Wed Nov 24 19:49:03 EST 2004
  
  Dear friends,
  
  I have gained veRy much from your inputs. I am happy that this has become a collective effort of all of us. We are all gaining knowledge and no one can be singled out as the leading contributor. We all have our share.
  
  
  Murali,
  Yesterday I was in ASTRO VAANAVIL to discuss about another great musical recording. Also have made arrangements to meet up with Ilayaraja. Hope the meeting would materialise. Then you can have more information.
  
  
  Vijay,
  Semmangudi and BMK stories are taken from the book of my late friend V. Selvaraj and have also cross checked with my counterparts in the cine industry.
  
  Anand,
  I am coming to the full western song- Coming soon.
  
  Bala,
  I do not intend to cover all his songs, as I am not a competent authority in any way. I have mentioned this. You should be knowledgeable on music in order to comment wholly and adequaltely. I have written black and white that I am a "Kazhudai with no sense of karpooram smell." In fact I am heavily dependent on nowledgeable people in this thread.
  
  Prabhudas,
  This is the mother of all threads on IR? Certainly not. It is one of the siblings I should admit.
  
  k.
  You are right. It is the story behind songs that makes the song discussion lively.
  
  DEAR ALL,
  
  Please be informed that I do not intend to cover all IR songs. I would only cover those which to my humble mind are landmark songs.All of you could continue from where I stop. Raja is like an ocean liner and I am only a small raft beside him. How do I qualify in any way?
  
  
  
  
• From: RR (@ 192.122.134.249) on: Wed Nov 24 22:51:25 EST 2004
  
  Here's one more kannan song from the movie, 'aayiram kodi' sung again by Dr. BMK. This is probably IR's first ragamalika in TFM.
  
  Click here to listen to it!
  
  aayiram kodi kaalangalaaga
  aanandha leelayin naayagan neeye
  
  (aayiram kodi)
  
  kaatrinil uyiraaga kalanthaaduvaai
  neeril alayaaga nindraaduvaai
  maargazhi maatha malargalil aadum
  vaasamum neeye varnamum neeye
  
  (aayiram kodi)
  
  naadhamum neeye geethamum neeye
  naanilam kaakkum paranthaamaa
  paarkkadal amuthaaga vaanavar virunthaaga
  moovulagam aalum vendham neeye
  
  (aayiram kodi)
  
  aathmavin porulaaga geethayile
  arul kaatti sudarveesum paathayile
  ulaginai naalum nalvazhiyotrum(?)
  kaaladi neeye maadhavan neeye
  
  (aayiram kodi)
  
  
• From: Manisekaran (@ 61.6.39.139) on: Wed Nov 24 23:20:58 EST 2004
  
  
  
  
  6. SEVVANTHI POO MUDICHA CHINNAKKA
  
  No song from 16 Vayathinile could be singled out for credit, as all songs are equally good and form interesting material for discussion. So let me cover a few songs in a go.
  That was the 13th movie for Ilayaraja. Years later Raja was asked which was the film from which he derived full satisfaction. Ater a moments reflection Raja said that that was the film where he was able to manifest and exhibit his full imagination in composing music. Bharathiraja too had commented that 16 Vayathinile provided best musical results.
  
  As for the film, that was the first film to be shot outside studio- in natural settings with no make up for the everyone. The lyrics too reflected naturalism set in village surroundings.
  
  Raja has toured several villages in South India, and had sung in many of the concerts. Perhaps there are very few villages on which they had not set their foot. The Pavalar Brothers- Varatharajan, Bhaskar, Amar Sing (gangai amaran) and Gnana Desigan (Ilayaraja) claimed “MaAttu vandi POgatha Oorukkellam Engal PaAttu vandi Ponathundu.”
  
  Wherever Raja went he made sure he picked up folk tunes, folk based lyrics and took note of the musical instruments played in the villages. He kept all these as well guarded secret, hoping to use them one day. He was the first to bring the entire range of the folk tunes, lyrics and even instruments to Kodambakkam. The movie where he used them in full range was 16 Vayathinile.
  
  
  The film ran for 30 weeks. It was selected the best film by the Tamilnadu Government.
  
  
  Now three songs:
  S.B Bala was bookd for recoding the song in this movie. However, as Bala was not feeling well, he himself recommended Malaysia Vaasudevan. So Vasu had to sing the songs in this movie.
  
  SENTHOORA POOVE
  
  This was a killer song. It is quite difficult to grasp how Ilayaraja could use guitar and western orchestration for a village tune and still create a hit out of it. (guitar is discussed in another song) Gangai Amaraqn boasts that following the success of this cong, many other producers wanted the pallavis of theirs songs to start with names of flowers.
  
  This was a trend setting song for a short period, as there were already songs starting with names of flowers prior to this. Perhaps this song revived the need to start songs with names of flowers. Camerawork was a strong plus point for this song. (Gangai Amaran also has said that there is no such flower as Senthoorappoo. It is an imaginary flower, and challenges anyone to produce that flower!)
  
  The vinyl record also recorded sky high sales. Sivaji Ganesan himself has reportedly remarked that Senthoora Poove was his favourite song for 1977.
  
  S. Janaki was bestowed national award for best playback singer for the song Senthoora Poove. The song was surprisingly very popular in Russia as well.
  
  Click here to listen to it!
  
  sendhoorappoovae sendhoorappoovae jillenra kaatrae
  en mannan engae en mannan engae nee konjam sollaayoa
  
  (sendhoorappoovae)
  
  thenralaith thoodhu vittu oru saedhikkuk kaaththirundhaen
  kangalai moodavittu inbak kanavinil naan midhandhaen
  kannip paruvaththin vannak kanavidhuvae
  ennai izhukkudhu andha ninaivadhuvae
  vannap poovae thenral kaatrae ennaith thaedi sugam varumoa
  
  (sendhoorappoovae)
  
  neelak karunguyilae thennanjoalaik kuruvigalae
  koalamidum mayilae nalla gaanap paravaigalae
  maalai varum andha naalai uraiththidungal
  saalai vazhi engum poovai iraiththidungal
  vannap poovae thenral kaatrae ennaith thaedi sugam varumoa
  
  (sendhoorappoovae)
  
  CONTINUES...
  
  
• From: Manisekaran (@ 61.6.39.139) on: Wed Nov 24 23:22:01 EST 2004
  
  
  SOLAM VETHAIKAYILE
  This was the debut for Ilayaraja as a playback singer. Malaysia Vasu was booked for the tile song. But as he did not turn up, Ilayaraja had to immediately compose and sing. Gangai Amaran wrote the lyrics within 15 minutes and Ilayaraja sang the song with no difficulties.
  
  In fact Raja had been singing from his childhood days. When he followed his Pavalar brothers, he used to sit at the back of the stage and sing in female voice. The first song that Raja ever sang was a M.S. Rajeswary song from the film THAI PIANTHAAL VAZHI PIRAKKUM. The song is “Mannukkau Maram Baaramma marathukku Ilai Baarammaa.” The audience could not believe it was a male child singing the female song. According to Raja himself, many used to even place betting. Later Raja sang many of P. Suseela’s songs. When raja came to adolescent age, there was a break in his voice- makarakkattu they say in Tamil. Thereafter raja stopped singing and concentrated in playing harmonium and guitar.
  After a long time, raja sang for the first time and recorded his song in 16 Vayathinile. That was the beginning of many sweet beginnings in store for lovers of Raja’s voice.
  
  Click here to listen to it!
  
  
  AATTUKKUTTI MUTTAI ITTU
  The first song that Kannadasan wrote for Raja’s music was in the movie Palootti Valaratha Kili, and the song is “Kannodu Kannu” sung by S. Janaki. Kannadasan has inserted a line in the song:” Vaa Raja Vaa” Ilayaraja feels that it was a sign from Kannadasan, welcoming raja into the cine field. However, Aattukkutti Muttai Ittu was quite different. Barathiraja and Ilayaraja went to see Kannadasan in Kavitha Hotel. There they saw the poetic ability of Kannadasan. He was able to provide alternative words within fleeting moment, only to the astonishment ant amazement of Ilayaraja and Barathiraja. This incident was recalled for several years. S. Janaki was proved to be a versatile singer. She gives voice an old lady. Ilayaraja was credited for bringing out this talent from S. Janaki. Janaki too was appreciated for this song. This song is a break song for Malaysia Vasudevan as well.
  This is the song: Click here to listen to it!
  
  
  Aattukkutti Muttaiyittu Kozhikutty Vanthathunnu
  Yaanaikkunju Sollakkeittu Poonaikunju Sonnathamma
  Kathaiyilley Saami Ithai Kaanuthu Bhommi;
  Ada Ithumattunthaana Innum Irukkuthu Saami!
  
  Koottumedai Rasaavukku noothiraNdu Pondaattiyaam,
  Nootirandu Pondaattiyum Vaattumuttai Poathathamma;
  Pattatturani Athuley Pathinettu Peru,
  Pathinettuppeirkkum Vayasu Irubhathiaaru,
  Motham Irubhathiaaru- Aangh,
  chinna kuttigaLin mEl aaNai
  indha sattigaLin mEl aaNai
  idhu vaLLuvanin EttiluNdu parambarai paattiluNdu
  kadhaiyillai magaraasi!
  
  Kaakkaiyilla Seemaiyiley Kaatterumai Meikkaiyiley
  Kaakkavachu Neram Paarthu Paakku Vacha Aasaimachan
  Santhaikku Poana Naan Saatchikku Varava,
  Sambhantham Panna Enakku Sammathanthaana?
  Ada Innum Konjam Paarungalein,
  Enn Kannimanam Keilungalein,
  Ada Yendi Intha Sangathinnu Kekkureenga Kekkureenga,
  Pazhaiya Nenapputhaan Peiraandi
  Pazhaiya Nenapputhaan, mMMm
  Pazhaiya Nenapputhaan Peiraandi
  Pazhaiya Nenapputhaan
  
  Kittappavin Paattai Keittein
  Chinnappavai Neriley Paarthein,
  Sotta Sotta Varuguthamma
  Sangeethama Peruguthamma,
  Medaikkuppoana Enakku Eedilley Ponnu,
  Paadinaninna Naan Noottuley Onnu;
  Enn Thiramaiyai Kaattathumaa,
  Rendu Sangathiyai Poadattumaa,
  Ada Thatharina thatharina,
  Thatharina Thatharina
  Thatharina thatharina,
  
  In this song Kannadasan says Kittappavin Paattai Ketten. In an interview he said he never saw Kittappa in person or listened to his songs.
  
  
  SEVVANTHI POO MUDICHU CHINNAKKA
  This is the song that I selected for the Show. This is the song where Ilayaraja had used most of the village musical instruments in his early days. The members of the musical band almost became ecstatic. The audience started to dance. The band did well, but at the end of the show, the band members told me that they would have done better if only all the instruments used by Raja had been made available to them. They were not able to identify some of the instruments used.
  Click here to listen to it!
  
  Bharathiraja who capitalised on Ilayaraja’s music, had commented that Raja was very much ahead of him in scoring music for his movies. Even in subsequent released the movie made huge profits. This film boosted folk music and enhanced the taste for folk tunes. Whereas in the past music fans loved to listen to folk songs at random, this movie made fans seek such music. Folk music became a rule of the day rather than an exception. Raja set the new trend.
  
  16 Vayathinile is one of the best movies and a crowning victory for Ilayaraja and Bharathiraja. Certainly a movie that took Tamilnadu by storm!
  
  Over to all of you for further indepths.
  
  
• From: raj (@ 61.246.255.3) on: Thu Nov 25 01:00:01 EST 2004
  
  Sevvandhi poo mudicha chinnakka was sung by MV & PS
  
  a nice song
  
  Particularly the portions "Kovil ammanukku velakethu ...."
  
  Both have sung beautifully
  
  
  

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