Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
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- From: RR (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg)
on: Tue Jul 4 05:56:45 EDT 2000
Yes, the MKT song 'maraivaai puthaitha odu' is in darbar. (I can see you haven't checked the list.:)
Banthuvarali is a very rare raga, I'm not sure if there is any film song.
- From: Ragapriyan (@ yuan.ntu.edu.sg)
on: Tue Jul 4 06:11:23 EDT 2000
RR,
could you give me the swaras for "BanthuVaraali" and tell me how it is different from "Panthu Varaali"(as in the melakartha 51 Kaama vardhini) ?
also, are there any carnatic songs in "BandhuVaraali" ?
silkfort,
the starting string piece in "Vaadi Saathukudi" by ARR is set to Kathana Kuthukalam.
- From: RR (@ sbproxy3.mystarhub.com.sg)
on: Tue Jul 4 10:36:00 EDT 2000
Ragapriyan,
For more on Banthuvarali, see here
http://forumhub.com/indcmusic/5422.17805.05.33.13.html
- From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9)
on: Tue Jul 4 17:16:42 EDT 2000
Question about "aandhOLanama dhOLanam" from Sargam (mallu movie):
The aarOhaNam and avarOhaNam seem to be:
sa ri2 ma1 pa ni1 sa
sa ni1 dha2 pa ma1 ga2 ri2 sa
1,2 are in keyboard notation. (no ri3 , ga3 etc..)
Can anybody give me the ragam of this song ?
- From: RR (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg)
on: Tue Jul 4 23:35:40 EDT 2000
Kedaaragowla
- From: sai dutt (@ 203.197.21.110)
on: Wed Jul 5 04:18:44 EDT 2000
i am a guy from andhra.
i very much interested in this page,
musical information.
my problem is i don't know tamil.
the tamil films which are dubbed in telugu,
i can't guess it.
if some one provide with the
list of telugu-tamil films it will be of
great help.
preferably music done by msv,kvm,ir,arr.
please.
- From: Neels (@ ppp-203-197-9-142.bom.vsnl.net.in)
on: Wed Jul 5 06:05:11 EDT 2000
MS,
The raga is 'AandhoLika'.
- From: Lalitha (@ 202.141.82.200)
on: Wed Jul 5 07:13:40 EDT 2000
Ragapriyan,
In which movie is this song "Vaadi Sathukkudi" by ARR?
- From: bb (@ glaciers-28.slip.uiuc.edu)
on: Wed Jul 5 11:44:34 EDT 2000
lalitha, vandichchOlai chinnraasu.
- From: haris (@ inet-fw3-o.oracle.com)
on: Wed Jul 5 13:34:32 EDT 2000
bb, lalitha,
NOT 'vandichchOlai chinnraasu'.
its 'pudhiya mannargal'.
- From: RR (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg)
on: Wed Jul 5 23:07:28 EDT 2000
Neels: No, it's kedaaragowla. (andolika is a janyam of karaharapriya.)
- From: RR (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg)
on: Wed Jul 5 23:08:31 EDT 2000
MS: why don't you post the link to 'aandolanam'. I can no longer find this wonderful song on Joggy's site. :(
- From: RR (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg)
on: Thu Jul 6 00:12:14 EDT 2000
ok, I got it:
http://www.jyothish.com/songs/andolanam1.ram
Don't miss this song (and the movie, if you are not scared of mallu movies :). I know, i know this is a TFM forum :)
- From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9)
on: Thu Jul 6 00:18:51 EDT 2000
RR:
http://www.binod.com/cgi-bin/playsong.cgi?file=song&songid=aandolan.ra
- From: Neels (@ 203.197.45.97)
on: Thu Jul 6 00:25:50 EDT 2000
And it is Rambha's debut film with an absolutely non-glamorous getup, baby fat, squint et al... Music is by Ravi (ex-Hindi film MD, now fondly referred by Mallus as Bombay Ravi)
RR, Could you give some more examples of KedAra GowLa? Thanks.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9)
on: Thu Jul 6 01:29:21 EDT 2000
RR :
forgot to thank you for your clarification. thx.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9)
on: Thu Jul 6 01:30:30 EDT 2000
Neels:
I have heard my father telling me that there is an old song " kELamaa kEdhara gowLaththilE...nadakkumbOthu neLiya vENdaam". somebody please clarify as whose song it is.
- From: RR (@ sbproxy2.mystarhub.com.sg)
on: Thu Jul 6 10:26:27 EDT 2000
Neels: Kedara gowla is not so popular (as far as I know) as it's cousins Yathukula Kambhoji & Sama. You can search for the kriti titles on forum hub.
- From: Vidhya (@ 204.164.111.130)
on: Thu Jul 6 11:38:22 EDT 2000
One MS Subbulakshmi song..
"Agni endrariyaayo kaRpudaiya mangaiyarai..".
Seethai sings it facing RaavaNan.
Its raagam is kEdaara gowLai.
- From: ragaveriyan (@ 61.1.207.250)
on: Thu Jul 6 16:03:34 EDT 2000
hi neels, this is raga veriyan/radhagopalavenkatesan. the song in Ambikapathy'- 'Satre sarindha kuzhale asaiya..tharala vadam ..' had been set in KEDHARA
GOWLAI- by the great MD. G.RAMANATHAN -this charanam will be after Tamil maalai thanai sooduvar.. set in 'Kambodhi.' and in the end..
'Nattrenozhuga nadana singara nadai azhagu pottrer
irukka purappattathe thalaiyalangaram..' will be in Madhyamavathy.
- From: Neels (@ ppp-203-197-9-154.bom.vsnl.net.in)
on: Fri Jul 7 03:35:55 EDT 2000
Ragaveriyan, MS, thanks. Are these samples available on the Net? Would love to take a dekko.\
Is 'RAga Sudha RAsa' also set to Kedara GowLa?
Also, talking of Rajeshwari, is she the same Carnatic musician with a great voice, that released a set of albums on Carnatic Primer?
- From: RR (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg)
on: Fri Jul 7 04:13:16 EDT 2000
Raga sudha rasa is andolika.
- From: anban (@ 139.85.161.162)
on: Fri Jul 7 08:26:22 EDT 2000
i think the song "ISAYIL THODANGUDHAMMA" from HEY RAM IS IN RAGA "HAMSANADHAM' is that right
can any one clarify
- From: Neels (@ ppp-203-197-9-155.bom.vsnl.net.in)
on: Fri Jul 7 09:51:54 EDT 2000
RR,
Both these songs, 'RAga Sudha Rasa' and 'Aandolanam' figure in the movie Sargam and they seemed to be based on the same Raga.
Which is why I assumed that the song 'Andolanam' is based on Andolika (as the name suggests).
What exactlty is the difference between Andolika and Kedara Gowla? Can you throw some light on this please?
Neels
- From: RR (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg)
on: Fri Jul 7 10:41:58 EDT 2000
Neels: They are very different.
Andolika - S R2 M1 P N2 S | S N2 D2 M1 R2 S (janyam of karaharapriya)
For andolika, listen to TVS' tamil song. I think it's available in bharath.com.
- From: Neels (@ ppp-203-197-9-155.bom.vsnl.net.in)
on: Fri Jul 7 12:15:10 EDT 2000
Thanks RR.
- From: ragaveriyan (@ 61.1.207.148)
on: Fri Jul 7 16:13:15 EDT 2000
hi neels,this is again ragaveriyan.i had forgotten
to mention about the virudham piece in 'Kuluvalile
mottu mallallo..'in 'MUTHU'by ARR- wherein therell
ba an interlude before charanam..'ranganayaki..
ranganayaki..' going as 'ira.. ... poomalaipozhival..'like that (i am not sure about
the lyrics as i presume this in Malayalam)will be
played and again this piece will be in 'KEDHARA
GOWLAI' pl.verify and comment!
- From: Neels (@ ppp-203-197-9-155.bom.vsnl.net.in)
on: Fri Jul 7 23:11:21 EDT 2000
The Malayalam chorus bit "Omana ThinGal KinAvO Pari PooraNa TAmara Poovo" in the above song is I think 'Yadhukula Kambodhi', a raga used extensively in Mohini Attam.
- From: ragaveriyan (@ 61.1.207.178)
on: Sat Jul 8 06:00:52 EDT 2000
hi neels, i am not mentioning about the piece going like'Poovodu thingal....' in the song which
will be in either Senchurutty or yadhukula kamboji
as u had mentioned- it is the other interlude..
which will go as 'ira... ' pl.hear the song again.
that particular piece will be in'Kedhar gowlai'
- From: ragaveriyan (@ 61.1.207.187)
on: Sat Jul 8 06:16:34 EDT 2000
sorry, neels, the song i heard again. actually it goes like'manicka..veenaiyum.. malarmalayumm;'and this is KEDHARGOWLAI.
- From: Venkatram vasi (@ 203.199.220.12)
on: Sun Jul 9 06:57:50 EDT 2000
What is the difference between Abheri and Bimplas?Can any one help me to know this!I have read that Bimplas is Abheri of Hindustani music.
- From: Vidhya (@ 204.164.111.130)
on: Mon Jul 10 12:24:51 EDT 2000
I can't identify the difference between the two.
"Maari pol kaNNeerai chindha kaaraNam aedhamma"-"Lavakusha" one great song in Abheri.
- From: haris (@ inet-fw2-o.oracle.com)
on: Mon Jul 10 14:45:28 EDT 2000
The 'Poovodu thingal....' part in kuluvalilE i think is in neelAmbari..
i heard aaberi, bimplas, karnata devagAndhari -- are all the same.
also panthuvarAli = poorvikalyani.
- From: Vidhya (@ 204.164.111.130)
on: Mon Jul 10 17:18:14 EDT 2000
haris: Abheri & devagaandhaari - konjam difference irukku. "Sindhu bharaivi"-la varra scene maadhiri.
Nagumomu Ganaleni" - Abheri
"Ksheera saagara sayanaa" - devagaandhari
Karnaataka devagaandhari konjam clear-aa pidikalaam.
"panchaa shatpeeta roopiNi" - karnAtaka deva gAndhAri.
- From: Vasu (@ s03.austin.ibm.com)
on: Mon Jul 10 18:20:10 EDT 2000
Haris,
Pantuvarali is not same as purvikalyani. they differ atleast by Dha.
- From: Neels (@ ppp-203-197-9-186.bom.vsnl.net.in)
on: Tue Jul 11 08:31:54 EDT 2000
Poorvi KalyaNi:
S R1 G3 M2 P D2 P S
S N3 D2 P M2 G3 R1 S
Pantu VaraLi:
S R1 G3 M1 P D1 N3 S
S N3 D1 P M2 G3 R1 S
The former has D2 whereas the latter has D1. Also, the Aarohanam progression is quite different.
- From: Neels (@ ppp-203-197-9-186.bom.vsnl.net.in)
on: Tue Jul 11 08:33:04 EDT 2000
Sorry, the M1 should read M2.
- From: deva rajan (@ 203.197.252.166)
on: Tue Jul 11 10:11:33 EDT 2000
some one could give me songs-raga
list of kandu kondiane kandu kondiane, please?
- From: Neels (@ 203.197.55.30)
on: Wed Jul 12 02:20:35 EDT 2000
It's Nalina Kanthi (e.g. 'Endhan Nenjil Neengaatha Thendral Nee Thaana')first and Kadhana Kudhookalam (e.g. Madurai Mani Iyer's Notes)later.
Note: You may want to refer to the list of raga based film songs (link given on top of this page)before posting a query.
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