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A request to amateur composers who visit this page

Topic started by Vijay (@ 212.137.205.127) on Thu Nov 16 16:58:22 EST 2000.
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I'd like to request amateur composers who visit this page to tell me if they've uploaded any of their work onto the internet and if they have, please tell me where I can listen to it. Thank You.

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Some composers to check out (in no particular order): Jay, Srikanth, Ganesh, Eswar, Sridhar Seetharaman, Kumar, Rjay. Vishwesh Obla

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• From: Srik (@ 64.80.98.165) on: Wed Jul 30 10:14:13 EDT 2003
  
  Da vince, good point ,
  I like quote my what i told yesterday
  Basically I belive "good things" can reach people in any form, the method used does not matter,
  we have a strong feeling that music in this form has the potential to reach more ears. imho, music is an evolution, a something the changes/develops with the environment.
  
  
• From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 192.147.58.6) on: Wed Jul 30 10:29:48 EDT 2003
  
  Da Vinci!
  
  BB' concern may be genuine. It is even more important to turn that concern into a roadmap so it becomes useful. At this point, based on what I have observed, he is still working on it. His frustration comes out of his own inability to change the world. He is frustrated with himself. Not with us. So let us not pick on him. We all go thru that.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 192.147.58.6) on: Wed Jul 30 11:01:46 EDT 2003
  
  I am sorry! Replace BB with Arularachan. FOr some reason I though BB and Arul were the same person.
  
  
• From: Da Vinci (@ 128.113.109.155) on: Wed Jul 30 11:55:14 EDT 2003
  
  Sridhar,
  
  I think you are mistaken again. It is someone by name 'hihi'.
  
  
• From: Ravi Krishnan (@ 199.184.38.5) on: Wed Jul 30 12:28:48 EDT 2003
  
  Aditya, Your veena composition was nice. Was it based on tri taal (16 beats)?
  
  Srikanth,
  Did you post your classical based score already? Is it also based on your thiruppavai theme - more introduction to mood, raagam, composition along with the song would be great. I think thats how you presented elle. Elle has been the song that I have been hearing atleast 20 times a day. You should plan to market Elle with some labels. You have got that magnetic grace in your composition. Hats off!
  
  Jay, Any new ones on the way?
  
  
• From: Srik (@ 64.80.98.165) on: Wed Jul 30 12:40:01 EDT 2003
  
  Ravi and others, thanks for your support.
  I will get it done as per my schedule, sometime soon. :)
  
  
  
• From: Mahati (@ 160.231.10.104) on: Wed Jul 30 12:44:18 EDT 2003
  
  Mahati reacts on the recent posts...
  
  Perhaps it's a unique opportunity given to us to learn on how to combat the negativity of any kind of frustration...Fortunately we are not just few...
  
  Many of the great masters of music have been frustrated at times with their own musical abilities. I read somewhere about the following 4 examples as listed below (can't verify the authenticity of the following facts)...
  
  1. Ludwig von Beethoven (1770-1827) worked for long periods of time on his compositions before completing them. He revised his pieces over and over again, reworking them, doubting his original efforts. This was almost unheard of in Beethoven's time. Many of you may already know that Beethoven gradually became deaf later in his life. Because of this, Beethoven quit performing as a pianist in 1814 (13 years before his death). He stopped composing in 1815.
  
  2. Johannes Brahms (1833-1897) was so frustrated with his composing abilities that he spent twenty-one years composing his first symphony!!! He felt as if he could never compose a symphony as well as Beethoven. Brahms kept starting over with his symphony, revising it, abandoning it, starting over, reworking it, etc.
  
  3. Gustav Mahler (1860-1911) (master of symphonies), revised his symphonies and other works after having doubts about what he had composed originally. Mahler kept revising his works until his death. It must have been frustrating to keep revising pieces that were already published.
  
  4. Jean Sibelius (1865-1957) actually stopped composing for about 30 years because he felt that he had run out of new musical ideas. He doubted his abilities to compose anything worthwhile at the height of his popularity. He worked on new music for those 30 or so years, sketching his ideas during the day and throwing them away every time. That is some very serious frustration!
  
  Beethoven began composing again in 1817. Many of his most important compositions are from this last period in his life. Beethoven broke new ground and had done things never before done in music once he began working again. Had he continued to let the frustrations of his deafness paralyze him musically, Beethoven would not be as highly regarded as he is to this day.
  
  After the twenty-one year period of composing his first symphony, Brahms felt relieved. The shadow of Beethoven was lifted enough to allow Brahms to move forward. He finally found a way to move on and deal with his frustrations. He completed his next symphony in less than one year.
  
  Frustration can help you or hurt you depending on how you deal with it. As you can see, Beethoven and Brahms eventually found positive ways to deal with their frustration and overcame it. Unfortunately, Sibelius never did. He is perhaps the most extreme example of a person who let frustration destroy him musically. Sadly, he died without finishing any substantial music compositions during the last 30 years of his life!
  
  So Composers, reviewers, listeners, singers, and people around...it's natural we're frustrated with us sometimes...And I sincerely believe that all of us can deal with them positively...
  Don't be disheartened with anything...this is just a forum with some democracy. Any hyperbolic expressions in words doesn't mean that they are nothing but absolute measure of praise or hatred or criticism respectively - sometimes it could be accidental instantaneous reaction!
  
  In your own roles as a reviewer, composer, singer, performer or listener...you're all good and will improve for your own interest no matter what comes - Continue doing whatever is good for your life and reach your respective goals...
  
  
• From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 192.147.58.6) on: Wed Jul 30 13:33:10 EDT 2003
  
  Well said Mahati!
  
  
• From: Jay (@ 66.28.42.140) on: Wed Jul 30 14:39:38 EDT 2003
  
  very true..Mahati. Sometimes your own thoughts can chain your creativity.
  
  
• From: . (@ 132.206.72.95) on: Wed Jul 30 15:50:06 EDT 2003
  
  
  Hi
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 156.77.105.122) on: Wed Jul 30 16:16:47 EDT 2003
  
  Great going guys!
  
  I am yet to download and hear to the songs,
  but I have had a sneak preview of Srikanth's
  wonderful Elle.
  
  I have a few comments to make: (like, UV, here are my two paise)
  
  To create, you should start wearing an elephant
  hide and create a world within you where others
  and your own criticisms and other composer's successes wont intimidate you. Ironically, a creator has to have extreme sensivity and actually irritability )be an easily emotionally excitable person)!
  
  There is value in criticism, in improving the creation and setting high standards. However, creation comes first and is more valuable than even constructive criticism.
  
  As a whole, we should learn to takes things in a light vein and keep going. I wonder how Disney for instance is able to create a team of ARTISTs and align all their vision to a work product on schedule! Is it possible to create a team project out here?
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 156.77.105.122) on: Wed Jul 30 16:21:50 EDT 2003
  
  hihi;-) is also an amateur composer with an excellent western classical piece up his sleeve!!
  Dont remember if he has shared it here yet...
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.4.168) on: Wed Jul 30 16:30:34 EDT 2003
  
  rjay enna sir
  romba nalaiku intha pakkam varaenga polerukke
  any new ones from your side?
  
  guys a small help
  i am trying my hand at a midi song
  there is peice where i need to produce bass guitar flanger sound. I am using standard midi tables
  swamiji,srik your help would be appreciated
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 156.77.105.123) on: Wed Jul 30 17:45:04 EDT 2003
  
  UV
  I spend too much time thinking and talking 'about music', when I should be
  'doing music'. Anyway, seeing so much being
  done here, I will pull up my sleeve soon...
  and deliver!
  
  
• From: Srik (@ 141.156.129.120) on: Wed Jul 30 18:22:00 EDT 2003
  
  To create, you should start wearing an elephant
  hide Ravi...super point, infact Hippo's hide will fit better in most cases, welcome back...
  :),
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 68.62.91.125) on: Wed Jul 30 21:28:48 EDT 2003
  
  Ravi Krishnan, yes "sweet home" was based on tri taal ( 16 beats ) which is also otherwise called as Teena Taal. Thanks for your comments.
  
  regards,
  Aditya
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 68.62.91.125) on: Wed Jul 30 21:42:18 EDT 2003
  
  RJAY, welcome back.
  
  > Is it possible to create a team project out here?
  
  Musicians here are forming teams and producing good results..."Senthamizh Nadu" song is another good example:-)) You will see some more interesting combinations in future like a team of talented musicians, singers and lyricists from this thread...This thread has a good life!!! Perhaps our children and grand children may also get infected with the continuation of thread...
  
  Regards,
  Aditya
  
  
• From: satsona (@ 203.199.192.162) on: Thu Jul 31 04:12:10 EDT 2003
  
  Srikanth.
  
  1st of all, kudos to u for the Thirupavai attempt.
  
  i listened to the song quite late,and by the time, it has been reviewed umpteen times in this forum:).
  I don't know hihi or Arul, but if he feels his criticism is constructive, then he is wrong. and if he feels otherwise(that he can criticise destructively), then I sincerely dont know what he is upto:). Basically the points which he makes get irrational due to the tone he uses to express.
  
  I agree the song doesn't evoke a religious feeling, but then, for something like Thirupavai to reach today's audience, this is possibly one of the best music styles to compose.
  
  just some of my opinions abt the music aspect(I am not qualified to comment about the lyrics:)
  
  the Raga change in the 2nd line could have been done a bit later, since the listener is introduced to the beautiful kedaram in the 1st line but seems a little too early for a raga change.the preludes, background subtle bells, piano and other instruments are just apt, without interfering with the mood of the song.
  
  Sundar's rendition is superb, with the feelings complete.
  
  I hope the album reaches the market soon, with other additions.All the best.
  
  btw, Srik, what equipment do u use to get the clarity of instruments(the bells and piano interludes)?for mixing?
  
  cheers
  
  
• From: satsona (@ 203.199.192.162) on: Thu Jul 31 05:05:06 EDT 2003
  
  I have heard these compositions quite late, anyway here are my opinions:
  
  hi Jay and Radhika
  
  very good composition, and the fresh & soft voice of Radhika adds to the beauty.As other experts said, some more emotions can be included therein.
  
  Ir's fan
  >>>Is the song is similar to the "Poongathave" from the movie"Nilagal" by IR. <<<
  
  Poongathave is Mayamalavagowlai, and i feel Panithirai is more close to the song in Gambheera naatai(Innum Yenna Sei-Singaravelan).
  
  I am really curious about the equipments the composers here use. Especially, the Rhythm section in most compositions is clear and very balanced. Jay and others, how do u achieve that?
  
  Aditya,the veena piece was very good, though very short. Is there any way or software, by which that veena sound can be produced by playing the keyboard?:)pls do let me know.
  
  carry on the good work.
  cheers
  
  

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