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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: C~P (@ 61.2.224.253) on: Thu Feb 12 13:00:45 EST 2004
  
  Prasanna,
  I post in English if I am trying to make a point. That was just my reply to Kupps. U wouldn't have understood what I said even if I had done it in English! :-)
  Sorry for the inconvenience though!
  
  Kupps,
  Why don't you explain what we were talking about. I am sure you will not confuse people! ;-)
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Thu Feb 12 22:18:07 EST 2004
  
  Note Man:
  
  It indeed is an aberration! But I have no intention of listing those common place lifts...I'm sure very few people would have known lifts like YSR's from IR and NS's from Rajan Nagendra. The intention of the site is not to be a directory of lifts...its merely to unearth unknown/ rarely known lifts.
  
  Tariq:
  
  You could judge YSR based on your parameters and yes, even I think 'Nenjodu' is only an inspiration and not a direct lift. But the way he had lifted Hedningarna's 'Raven' was disheartening. Lets not bring all other composers who lift and say, 'they all do it, so YSR does it too...and its all right'. Thats illogical. Dont get emotional in your admiration for YSR. I love his music in Poovellaam Kettuppar and consider it as the best for a Vasanth movie next only to 'Keladi kanmani'. Give him a pat where he deserves it and admonish when he errs.
  
  "Let anybody go and do better music and then talk"
  --This is like asking Cho Ramaswamy to contest elections or Subbudu to sing carnatic classics!
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Thu Feb 12 22:20:08 EST 2004
  
  Check out the original of Vidyasagar's Pudhayal song, 'Baba baba'. Original by Deep Forest. Audio clips added today.
  
  www.iespana.es/i2fs/
  
  
• From: Aswathama (@ 68.58.124.250) on: Thu Feb 12 23:38:26 EST 2004
  
  "Udaya Udaya" Song in Udaya inspired from Hero hindi song "Nindhiya se Jaane".
  
  
• From: curious (@ 67.126.114.94) on: Fri Feb 13 11:13:52 EST 2004
  
  Karthik S, did u have a look at my -- Wed Feb 11 11:03:51 EST 2004 -- update? any comments?
  
  
• From: kj (@ 192.87.1.200) on: Fri Feb 13 11:49:04 EST 2004
  
  recently I.listened to Magalir Mattum title track...it was great..the only thing which bothered me was that a few interludes sounded similar to the interludes in oruvan oruvan mudalali from muthu. I checked out.the release dates Magalir Mattum is a movie from 1994 and Muthu was released in 1995..i am not making any accusations..please check it out urself and judge whether ARR was inspired from Magalir Mattum or not..will be glad to know others opinion.
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Mon Feb 16 22:09:24 EST 2004
  
  Curious:
  
  Yup saw that, heard the songs too. That was a period when there was quite an exchange (with or without permission) from Hindi to Tamil and vice versa. Guess this is one of them. Good find though.
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Mon Feb 16 22:12:38 EST 2004
  
  Need help on this.
  
  Remember seeing a Tamil song in Podhigai recently that had a tune exactly similar to a Nadeem Shravan song, 'Dil jigar nazar' from the Divya Bharati starrer 'Dil ka kya kasoor'. This Tamil song had Arjun and Simran in it and if I remember right, the music director's name was mentioned as Maragadhamani. The song's words went something like 'Vaan nila...' but I dont remember this very clearly.
  
  I remember just 2 Arjun-Simran movies...Ezhumalai and Ottran. Could anybody help me identify the song?
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Mon Feb 16 23:40:05 EST 2004
  
  I found the song...its 'Maan Vizhi' from K S Ravikumar's 'Kondattam', starring Arjun and Simran.
  
  Now, to find the source of both the songs...I've heard this tune as an instrumental, many times. But dunno any other details!
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Mon Feb 16 23:58:33 EST 2004
  
  If at all it helps, the original is an instrumental along the lines of 'Walk Don't Run' by The Ventures.
  
  
• From: sathish (@ 202.88.232.66) on: Tue Feb 17 01:03:54 EST 2004
  
  NO IDEA
  
  
• From: sathish (@ 202.88.232.66) on: Tue Feb 17 01:07:46 EST 2004
  
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• From: mir (@ 220.247.221.85) on: Tue Feb 17 02:38:06 EST 2004
  
  Hi karthik
  Did you check the song "Tere Liye Jaanam" by S.P. Balasubramaniam, Chitra Singh in the film Suhaag composed by Anand milind. I think its a ditto copy of "roja janeman" from Roja.
  http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/XX01000I39
  
  
• From: mir (@ 220.247.221.85) on: Tue Feb 17 02:38:49 EST 2004
  
  Hi karthik
  Did you check the song "Tere Liye Jaanam" by S.P. Balasubramaniam, Chitra Singh in the film Suhaag composed by Anand milind. I think its a ditto copy of "roja janeman" from Roja.
  http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/XX01000I39
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Tue Feb 17 03:50:35 EST 2004
  
  Yes, know this. I stopped taking lifts by Anand Milind seriously since the list is way too long and everybody knows about it.
  
  
• From: Rasika (@ 194.170.246.22) on: Tue Feb 17 04:01:58 EST 2004
  
  Karthik,
  
  Please add this song to the gen-next copycats Sanjeev-Darshan's list:
  
  This time they have lifted it from our own Deva!
  
  The Original song by Deva in Avvai Shanmukhi is:
  "KADHALA KADHALA KADHALIL THAVIKKIREN"
  
  And Sanjeev Darshan's copy in the copycat Satish Kaushik's movie starring Anil Kapoor-Aishwarya Rai, "Hamara Dil Apke Pas hai"
  
  "GHAM HAIN KYON"
  
  Both the song sources are easily available.
  
  
• From: Maverick (@ 192.128.134.68) on: Tue Feb 17 04:19:51 EST 2004
  
  Not sure if someone has posted this before...
  
  Listened to PKS songs and there's this Tamil soft rock number sung by YSR himself
  'Where do we go..'. From the moment I listened to this song , I was impressed but also definitely knew that this has shades of more than one English number. One definite resemblance is the beats thats taken from Wham's 'Last Christmas'. Do you folks find any other resemblance ?
  
  
• From: Tariq (@ 213.199.33.20) on: Tue Feb 17 04:20:28 EST 2004
  
  Harris Jayaraj has copied the Matrix Theme for the backing of Uyirin Uyire from Kaakha Kaakha
  
  
• From: Ferrari (@ 202.56.254.13) on: Tue Feb 17 05:23:58 EST 2004
  
  Last Christmas I gave you my heart, the very nexy day you gave it away is one of the all time best of george michael.
  Andha paata konjam light aa modify panni YSR has used in PKS
  
  
• From: Maverick (@ 192.128.166.68) on: Tue Feb 17 05:57:36 EST 2004
  
  Karthik
  Happened to visit the Coincidences section and listened to Too Much Tequila - Champs. Not too sure if it sounds like ARR's Tarumpum...
  But the moment I listened to this piece edited by you) the tune that came to my mind was 'Words' by Boyzone.
  Sorry, dont have a link for the Boyzone song with me now. Popular song..sure you'd have heard it before.
  
  http://www.iespana.es/i2fs/TooMuchTequila.rm
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Tue Feb 17 06:15:19 EST 2004
  
  Maverick...I had mentioned this (about 'words' originally by BeeGees) when I listed this coincidences first in the index page. Yes, it sure sounds similar...as if a slower ballad version of too much tequila!
  
  
• From: Tariq (@ 213.199.33.20) on: Tue Feb 17 07:57:40 EST 2004
  
  Ferrari, that's a funny comparison, I don't see any resemblance between the two songs!
  
  
• From: Aswathama (@ 68.58.124.250) on: Tue Feb 17 09:26:27 EST 2004
  
  Like ARR is his Guru Andrew Lloyd Webber in copying and inspiring from other composers:
  
  http://www.ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/law/library/cases/case_reppwebber.html
  
  
• From: Aswathama (@ 208.24.179.28) on: Tue Feb 17 13:47:08 EST 2004
  
  Rahman's interview in rediff about him not copying
  
  http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~kailasan/interviews/rediff2000.htm
  
  Rahman's copy exposed once again
  
  Listen to Race with Devil on Turkish Highway
  
  http://www.telarc.com/gscripts/title.asp?gsku=3433
  
  Listen to Beat Of Passion from TAAL
  
  http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/movie/H000058.html
  
  
• From: wr (@ 192.87.1.200) on: Tue Feb 17 13:52:27 EST 2004
  
  hehehehaheha excellent one like guru like shishyan
  
  
• From: cinerasikan (@ 63.220.104.1) on: Tue Feb 17 15:31:06 EST 2004
  
  Aswathama'
  
  Link potteengale adhule enna irukkunnu padikaliyaa.. Sumanaa edavadhu kidaichaa podhume, udane post pannida vendiyadhu.. Webberoda paatulerndhu copy panni irukkira innoru punniyavaanukku court thakka thandanai vazhangi irukku..
  
  Chumma ARR illena avar sambandhaama irukkira yaaraiyvadhu pathi mattama oru vishayam vandha, udane mooku verkudhu....
  
  Still I think you are the biggest ARR fan, like in Mahabharata they say Duryodhana is the most favored devotee of Lord Krishna, enna enneramum Krishnaraiye ninaichundu irundhaan Duryodhanann..
  Andha madhiri neengalum ARRa vidaradhaa ille.
  
  Vaazhga valamudan
  
  

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