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Topic started by bb (@ 24.4.254.104) on Tue Feb 20 03:21:22 EST 2001.
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Hi! We've made a major addition to newtfmpage, and that is a big song bank. Dhool features thousands of songs for your listening pleasure. This site is a part of the newtfmpage.com - swara.com group. Together with newtfmpage, we wish to make this the best place to listen to tamil film songs online and know about tamil film music. Our collection includes old, new, famous, rare and unheard of songs. We are still fine tuning and fixing the database errors, so please bear with us. We value your feedback, and this will help us build the site better. Please post your comments below or mail to comments@newtfmpage.com.
This work was done by us (bb and RR) with MS and swara.com ravi.

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• From: curses (@ 219.65.108.234) on: Sun Jan 11 06:07:55 EST 2004
  
  sorry.. cudnt resist saying this..
  
  "Ada paavigala!"
  
  
• From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148) on: Sun Jan 11 09:35:12 EST 2004
  
  thoppai, fixed. thanks.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148) on: Mon Jan 12 01:10:42 EST 2004
  
  Song of the Day: punnagai mannan poovizhik kaNNan from iru kOdugaL.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/punnagaimannan.rm
  
  - Subbu writes:
  
  Among film directors, there are/were quite a few who involve in depth and get associated very closely with the music squad. May be APN, Bheemsingh, Sridhar, MGR (as Hero & Director) etc in the yester year leads and Shankar, Bala of the current stream. The list will be incomplete, I believe, if I fail to spot K Balachandar.
  
  KB, believed in powerful story lines, though there were a few exceptions. In addition, he took the song sequences as his next 'aayudham' to make the story be in motion. While watching KB movies in theatres, smokers will be at 'risk' to take a break for a puff. Otherwise, they have to disturb the neighbor to know 'enna aachu' :-)
  
  Iru KodugaL, released in 1969, was an emotional drama among the lead trio (hero and 2 heroines). In those days, if am not wrong, one can guess easily at lease a few artists of KB's films. Gemini, Nagesh, Sowcar, VS Raghavan, Manorama, etc... were the high-status artists of KB's gurukulam. In Iru kodugal, the first four + Jayanthi gave a collective hats-off performance.
  
  One more aspect in KB's films. The lead lady, mostly, will be a character with conviction, assertiveness and all those skills required for a smart manager. Many examples can be quoted. IK had Sowcar Janaki, a versatile actress, portrayed the role of a collector. A splendid show by Sowcar with a contrast characterization of Jayanthi. They were named as Janaki and Jaya in the film too.
  
  Many of us would know the story. Gemini who married Sowcar, compelled to marry Jayanthi later due to circumstances. After became aloof, Sowcar rose up in life to Collector. She gets transferred to the same district collector office as No-1 person, where Gemini is employed as a clerk. Then the KB's emotional drama starts. Though it was true that GG and SJ were couple, it was not known to the outside world. Gemini gets disturbed, feels very low of him and shows that impact at home. On hearing many rumors, Jayanthi strongly suspects Gemini. There are situations, wherein Sowcar and Jayanthi meet with each other with lots of feeling buried beneath heart. One such occasion was Navarathri. Jayanthi goes to Sowcar's house with a burning heart of suspicion, angry, insecurity etc etc. As expected, she is asked to render a song. Yes it is the SOTD, penned by Kavignar Vaali and composed by V.Kumar (KB's aasthaana MD of those days).
  
  May I say that this song depicts a 'para parappaana' cricket match? Such a powerful delivery by Jamuna Raani (for Jayanthi) and reliable defensive batting by P.Susheela (for Sowcar). Jayanthi is very much disturbed and bursts out with her insecurity feeling in the form of googly keLvi kanaigal. JR was at her best for each sharp delivery. One would wonder, whether she is singing or acting :-) At the batting/receiving end, Sowcar should never loose her temper but to counter and defend her with clean sweeps and neat cover drives. Her answers should be matured and very effective without hurting the opponent. P.Susheela shouldered the heavy challenge and echoed that maturity in her voice. What a powerful match! Who won the battle? VeLLi thirai stadiathil kaanga :-)
  
  Here you go for it song....Ticket is cost-free 'bb' ubhayam :-)
  
  Tail-piece: In Kannada, IK was re-made as "Eradu rekha". Saritha (Sowcar) and Geetha (Jayanthi) were the lead ladies. MD was MSV. The Navarathri song was sung by PS and VJ. May be KB wanted a change; PS sang for Geetha and VJ for Saritha, which was of totally different by enjoyable tune :-)
  
  - List of JamunaRani's hits: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/3895.8.html
  
  
• From: raj (@ 203.197.142.162) on: Mon Jan 12 02:30:22 EST 2004
  
  Excellent Song to start the Week.
  The situation for this song was narrated to Balachander by Vaali
  
  You might wonder.. (it should be the reverse way)
  
  but that's the FACT.
  
  V.Kumar's interview (mano interviewed him) long back in Doordarshan..where he mentioned that
  After penning this song Vaali called Balachander and said this would be a perfect song if it is on Navarathiri ..
  
  That's y the song starts with NAvarathriyil kolu mandapathil...
  
  KB-VKumar-Vaali Trio were dominating in the 60's with Ethirneechal,Vellivizha,Irukodugal,Majorchandrakanth..
  
  PS & JR have rendered so beautifully, PS showing the sorrow of Sowkar in her rendition while JR showing her right(for Jayanthi)...on Gemini ..
  
  Nagesh's comedy (carrying his son) to office & Balachander's portrayal of a typical Collector Office was amazing..
  
  Overall.. Those are Golden days !!
  
  
• From: Subbu (@ 164.164.164.10) on: Mon Jan 12 05:40:26 EST 2004
  
  A small correction... The kannada version of Iru Kodugal was Eradu Rekhegalu (1984).
  
  The song starts with PS singing "Neela Mega Shyama". Guess, the lyrics was written by RN Jeyagopal
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 67.124.142.142) on: Mon Jan 12 11:52:18 EST 2004
  
  One of KB's more forgivable candidates in his play-disguised-as-a-movie career. The female leads and their fathers had the best lines if I remember. Was it the great Sahasranamam playing Jayanthi's father?
  
  As for the song, it's one of Vaali's best. I wish VK had skipped Jamuna Rani, she sounds like an LP that had been left in the sun too long.
  
  "Deviyar iruvar muruganukku" is the Kannadhasan/MSV version for this same song situation I think. Can Saravanan or someone else shed some light on this song and compare it with the SOTD?
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.12) on: Tue Jan 13 00:10:33 EST 2004
  
  Class song, one that'll automatically come to mind, as one thinks of V.Kumar, and his memorable works for KB in the initial years--a fruitful partnership that lasted till Arangetram-1973.
  
  Iru Kodugal was a great story, surcharged with emotion. KB's masterful dialogues (the 'file' and 'life' conversation, for instance) won high praise.
  
  Yes, Udhaya, it was Sahasranamam who played with restraint, the role of Jayanthi's understanding father. At the other end, VS Raghavan played Sowcar's father, who is gleefully enjoying the turn of events.
  
  'Deviyar iruvar Muruganukku, thirumal azhagan maruganukku' (Kalaikkoyil) does have similarities in situation with 'Punnagai Mannan', in the sense, both are songs having the situation of two women fighting for the same man. But in 'Punnagai Mannan', the other woman, Sowcar, actually has a prior claim on GG, having been wedded to him, even before a turn of events facilitates Jayanthi marrying GG.
  
  In 'Deviyar iruvar', Muthuraman is already married to Chandrakantha, when he falls for Rajasri. ( I haven't seen the film, only guessing this). So the song is a plea from Rajasri, imploring Chandrakantha to be magnanimous enough to share her husband with her! Interestingly, both Kannadasan and Vaali have chosen mythological parallels to bolster the argument.
  
  Tfm has several such songs- remember Savitri and Vijayakumari singing 'Unadhu malar kodiyile enathu malar madiyile', Padmapriya and Sujatha singing separately 'Kaaviri nagarinil kadarrkkaraiyorathil' ( here the Silappadhigaram parallel finds brilliant reference), KR Vijaya and Padmapriya singing 'Sridevi varam ketkiraal' with the same question 'Endha mangai sondha mangaiyo'?
  
  
• From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148) on: Tue Jan 13 00:46:36 EST 2004
  
  Song of the Day: summaa kedantha nelaththaik koththi from naadodi mannan.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/summaakedantha.rm
  
  - Sung by T.M.S and Banumathi. Music by S.M.Subbiah Naidu. Lyrics by PattukkOttai KalyanaSundaram.
  
  - I was wondering what song to feature during this Pongal time, cycling through usual candidates like 'thaip pongalum vandhadhu' and 'thai porandhaa', when Era. Murukan suggested this song. This song is written by PattukkOttai Kalyanasundaram for the Pongal malar of the Communist Party magazine Janasakthi. The lyrics of this song is quite fitting for the biggest festival of the farmers. Read on about how he feels about the sad situation of the farmers:
  
  summaa kedantha nelaththaik koththi
  sOmbalillaama Er nadaththi
  kammaa karaiyai osaththik katti
  karumbu kolaiyil vaaikkaal vetti
  
  sambaa payirai paRichchu nattu
  thaguntha muRaiyil thaNNeer vittu
  nellu veLainjirukku
  varappum uLLE marainjirukku
  
  ada kaadu veLainjenna machchaan
  namakku kaiyum kaalum thaanE michcham
  kaiyum kaalum thaanE michcham
  
  ippO kaadu veLaiyattum poNNE
  namakku kaalam irukkudhu pinnE
  
  - The more famous PattukkOttai song in the movie is 'thoongaathE thambi thoongaathE'. There is a Seergaazhi Govindarajan song too in the film, I forgot how it starts. Naadodi mannan was the first film directed by MGR.
  
  - PattukkOttai himself was born in an ordinary farmer family in 1930. He wrote a lot of thought provoking songs showing his sympathy to the Communist agenda. He died at a young age of 29, probably the biggest loss to TFM.
  
  - Pazhaiya Paadal Pakkam on PattukkOttai: http://www.newtfmpage.com/ppp/pattukottai.html
  
  - Check out the excellent discussions in the thread 'thiraippAdalgaLil samudhAyak karuththukkaL' here: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/174.11.41.09.html .
  
  
  
  
• From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148) on: Tue Jan 13 01:14:44 EST 2004
  
  I forgot to mention that the first time I heard this song was in the Leoni patti mandram, 'kaNNadaasanaa pattukkOttaiyaa' :)
  
  

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