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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: An (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Tue May 20 09:15:21 EDT 2003
  
  IMDB LIST OF MANI RATNAM MOVIES:
  
  http://www.imdb.com/Name?Rathnam,+Mani
  
  Kannathil Muthamittal (2002)
  ... aka Amritha (2002) (India: dubbed version Telugu title)
  ... aka Peck on the Cheek, A (2002) (USA: literal English title)
  Alai Payuthey (2000)
  ... aka Sakhi (2000) (India: dubbed version Telugu title)
  ... aka Waves (2000) (International: English title)
  
  
  Dil Se (1998)
  ... aka From the Heart (1998) (USA)
  ... aka Prema Tho (1998) (India: dubbed version Telugu title)
  ... aka Uyire (1998) (India: dubbed version Tamil title)
  Iruvar (1997)
  ... aka Duo, The (1997)
  ... aka Iddaru (1997) (India: dubbed version Telugu title)
  Velu Nayakan (1995)
  Bombay (1995)
  ... aka Bombayi (1995) (India: dubbed version Telugu title)
  Thiruda Thiruda (1993)
  ... aka Chor Chor (1993)
  ... aka Dongaa Dongaa (1993) (India: dubbed version Telugu title)
  ... aka Thief Thief (1993)
  Roja (1992)
  ... aka Roja (1992) (India: Malayalam title) (India: dubbed version Telugu title)
  Dalapathi (1991)
  Anjali (1990)
  ... aka Anjali (1990) (India: dubbed version Telugu title)
  
  
  Gitanjali (1989)
  ... aka Geethanjali (1989) (India: alternative transliteration Malayalam title)
  ... aka Idhayathai Thirudathe (1989) (India: Tamil title)
  Agni Nakshatram (1988)
  ... aka Gharshana (1988) (India: dubbed version Telugu title)
  Nayakan (1987)
  ... aka Hero (1987/II)
  ... aka Nayakudu (1987) (India: dubbed version Telugu title)
  ... aka Velu-Nayakan (1987) (India: dubbed version Hindi title)
  Mouna Ragam (1986)
  ... aka Mouna Raagam (1986) (India: dubbed version Telugu title)
  ... aka Silent Symphony, A (1986)
  Idaya Kovil (1985)
  Pagal Nilavu (1985)
  Unaroo (1984)
  Pallavi Anu Pallavi (1983)
  ... aka Priya O Priya (1983) (India: Tamil title)
  
  
• From: raj (@ 211.28.96.9) on: Tue May 20 10:41:55 EDT 2003
  
  hello if u take music as a subject in o/ls u will have enough knowledge to identify raagas.. so u met IR at his residence but dint lik his feet ha?? if it is arr would u lik it? i guess u would.. any ways y did u go to ir's residence? chance ketu poneenga pola.. IR chance kudukala athunala IR'a pathy katha katureenga..
  
  so that means u r a girl ha? na boy nu nenachu shave panu nu sonen.. whats wrong with the word P?? Y u getting angry? What i realy meant is Pesama (P) shave panitu padunga nu sonen. I guess u must have taken it in different way. Nalathu nenachu p ya patha nalatha theriyum, like wise ketatha nenachukondu p ya patha ketatha than theriyum. so nalathey nenayunga nalathey nadakum.
  
  Jumbalaka is a copy. and it has been already prooven with links. so i dint note it because even die hard arr fans accepted that fact. so if u r so curious go and check the archives.
  
  If other ur so called ppl try to put down IR with against the truth, definetely others will try to kick them out.. nothing wrong in that. Pro arr fans says arr is the god and they are putting down all the other md's. so nothing wrong kicking them out too. joe vera raj vera.. 2um ondrala..
  it seems u and me are always being online at the same time. so y dont u post ur email here so that u can leave this forum empty. otherwise u r filling the whole page by ur self.
  
  
• From: (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Tue May 20 11:05:20 EDT 2003
  
  raj - I was invited to his house, for ur information. I am not into performance, so I don't really need chances. See, again, un-substanciated stuff! I said I got his blessing, like I got MSV's e.t.c. It is something one does to older people - respect - something you know nothing about! Also, I posted my experiences with IR and his family on the ROS thread.
  
  Learning Ragas in O/L music? I was brought up in the West - no such luck. I know lots of ppl from India, unless they learn music properly, they can't identify Ragas! Looks like you were one of those ppl!
  
  I still don't see any Jumbalakka links - if you know them, post them for God's sake - who are these die hard AR Rahman fans who accepted them?
  
  You, Joe, Raj, Dinesh, all have the same Email id(raj_joe01@yahoo and SAME Australian IP, just toggling the last digit!!
  
  Your Gay comments to guys telling them to shave???? sweety/darling - all these are sounding really camp! What's up with that?
  
  
• From: (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Tue May 20 11:06:19 EDT 2003
  
  WHEN DID I SAY ARR WAS GOD?
  
  I am trying to get a list of his copied songs, but with hard evidence - it that too much to ask?
  
  
• From: XSXX (@ 12.255.136.55) on: Tue May 20 11:15:13 EDT 2003
  
  An get your facts straight. Mouna ragam theme is inspired not copied as you say. It is not a note by note copy.
  
  
• From: An (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Tue May 20 11:28:29 EDT 2003
  
  XSXX - did you listen to the link I gave? Take a listen - the meter of the theme is identical and so is the actual tune! Take a listen....
  
  
• From: Poor Rajesh (@ 167.202.196.72) on: Tue May 20 11:38:12 EDT 2003
  
  An, just to clarify. i never claimed Mouna raagam was an 83 release. all i said was, it was not a 1996/97 release, as you had mentioned earlier.
  
  
• From: An (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Tue May 20 11:45:15 EDT 2003
  
  oops, again, I got the wrong guy in my haste: Rajesh, it was:
  
  JS (@ 216.196.161.195)
  
  I'm sorry. :(
  
  
• From: Rajesh (@ 167.202.196.72) on: Tue May 20 12:12:32 EDT 2003
  
  this thread is becoming NONSENSE !! not serving its purpose anymore. (so, quiting). A request to forum admin.. could you pls open a new thread, which doesnot allow words like ARR, IR, etc ?! entha cold-war tholai thaanga mudiyalai.
  
  
• From: dhana (@ 128.148.68.57) on: Tue May 20 14:07:11 EDT 2003
  
  Jumbalakka is copied from IR's song Vangada vanga en vandikku pinnale from the movie maveeran.
  
  The parasuram song dolna is copied from the song kunnooru poochatti-movie name velai.MD-YSR
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 198.142.201.76) on: Tue May 20 21:57:56 EDT 2003
  
  Hello An, u are really asking for it.... ok if u want realy want it, as i told u earlier clean ur P and b ready.
  U told u went to ir's house but dint lick his feet and get his blessins. now ur saying u got his blessings.... amma ir unga sangeetha i mean western sangeetha thiramaya pathu veetuku invite paninara???? wow. poi solalam athukaga ipadi namba mudiyatha mari poi sola koodathu.. IR kita poi iva sangeetha thiramaya kati irupa.. thola thanga mudiyama IR thorathi irupar.. so inga vandu IR copied ARR is good nu thonda kiliya kathitiruka....
  
  
• From: narayanan (@ 67.208.123.85) on: Tue May 20 23:41:30 EDT 2003
  
  check out www.iespana.es/i2fs for some inspired indian film songs.
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 203.199.209.101) on: Wed May 21 02:41:45 EDT 2003
  
  >>>>>>>Jumbalakka is copied from IR's song Vangada vanga en vandikku pinnale from the movie maveeran
  
  Maaveeran MD is chandrabose and NOT IR.
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.197.141.186) on: Wed May 21 05:31:48 EDT 2003
  
  IR fans exposing their arrogance and total ignorance here. Thanks An...That was a nice posting from you.
  
  How many times will this Jumbalaka stuff will surface. Karthik is fed up with such things. That is why he is not responding I think.
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 67.33.108.122) on: Wed May 21 06:05:36 EDT 2003
  
  Kupps - Maaveeran is by IR.
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 61.8.210.74) on: Wed May 21 06:08:33 EDT 2003
  
  yah and the great ARR fans never seem to grow out of their moldy mold.
  
  sick old suckers
  
  
• From: dhana (@ 128.148.68.57) on: Wed May 21 08:41:23 EDT 2003
  
  Absolutely no doubt.I have seen tha movie
  
  Maveeran-IR
  
  Velai-YSR.
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 198.142.203.48) on: Thu May 22 10:04:36 EDT 2003
  
  enada.. elam amithiya irukanga??? Arr fans thiruntheetangala?
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 202.54.11.72) on: Fri May 23 05:15:16 EDT 2003
  
  The spanish song is pretty old. it was used in bedazzled. in anycase i wudnt still blame ARR. i have got tired of explaining about commercially available software loops. Even the spanish dudes cud have not been the 1st ones to use this. that is why i am considering it as copied/inspired category. a full 'copied' song is something which deva does.
  
  about 2 years and some months b4 when bedazzled released this song gave me a start. i was the 1st one to post it in tfm.
  
  it took a loong time for karthik S to see the movie ( it released in india quite late). i expalined the scene where it comes to him. ( when brendon frasier falls from the helicopter into liz shue's car after his stint as drung lord)
  
  
  
• From: (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Fri May 23 09:23:34 EDT 2003
  
  Bharath - anyway, En Swasa Katre came out before Bedazzled!
  
  En Swasa Katre(Jumbalakka) came in 1999
  http://www.rahmanonline.com/movies/en.shtml
  
  BEDAZZLED came out in 2000
  http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1800359981&cf=info&intl=us
  http://www.foxhome.com/bedazzled/
  http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/Bedazzled-1101051/reviews.php
  
  
• From: XSXX (@ 12.240.88.15) on: Fri May 23 10:31:20 EDT 2003
  
  An, I listened to the flashdance and mounaragam theme. I see similarity in instrument(piano), the straight eighth rythm and minor key used. Other than that, the "mood" presented by two songs are similar. I would say the tune is inspired and used for a similar situation in the movie. Chord progession is totally different. mounaragam has IR touches all over. Tune is not identical as you say.
  
  
• From: Mythila (@ 137.237.13.20) on: Fri May 23 14:36:47 EDT 2003
  
  Not to rake up any fight, as I don't have proofs.
  My Spanish friend Carla had told me,in 1999, 'Jumbalaikka' has been inspired from an old Spanish song, even b4 bedazzled got released. Looks like both of them got inspired from the same source.
  
  

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