Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
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I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)
"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."
Wow! Beautiful voice!
VaniJairam.com - A site that has lots of info and songs of VJ.
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- From: G.Ragavan (@ 210.210.93.19)
on: Tue Jul 15 03:29:57 EDT 2003
The list of songs in the CD are,
1. Mallihai En Mannan Mayangum
2. Nitham Nitham Nelluch Choru
3. Megame Megame
4. Andtha Manaip Paarungal
5. En Ullil Engo
6. Nee Ketal Naan maatean
7. Amutho Thamizil Ezuthum Kavithai
8. Aala Marathuk Killi
9. Andamanaip Paarungal Azahu
10. Yezhu Swarangalukul Ethanai Paadal
11. Ithuthaan Muthal Raathiri
12. SPB duet in Shankar Ganesh music. forgot the song.
I dont remember other songs. post them tomorrow.
- From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219)
on: Tue Jul 15 09:33:43 EDT 2003
Raj -
Isopanishad was an independent venture, and as such, it did not have mass distribution (or production, for that matter.) I don't think there are any links to this album. It was released in the early 90s.
I found your elucidation on Ashtapadis to be fascinating. I hope Dr. Mohana Rao gets to read it.
G Ragavan -
Thanks for the list. It is a good compilation.
- From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.94.123)
on: Wed Jul 16 00:54:14 EDT 2003
here is the full detail.
album is from saregama. Melodies from Vani Jayaram Vaani Jayaramin Kuyilisai.
1. Mallihai En Mannan Mayangum
2. Nitham Nitham Nelluch Choru
3. Megame Megame
4. Andtha Manaip Paarungal
5. En Ullil Engo
6. Nee Ketal Naan maatean
7. Amutho Thamizil Ezuthum Kavithai
8. Aala Marathuk Killi
9. Andamanaip Paarungal Azahu
10. Yezhu Swarangalukul Ethanai Paadal
11. Ithuthaan Muthal Raathiri
12. Romba Naallaha Enakoru Aasai.
13. Gangai Yamunai
14. Pongum Kadalosai
15. Thangathil Muhameduthu
16. Naathamenum Koyilile
17. Yenni Irundthathu Eedera
- From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250)
on: Thu Jul 17 17:23:06 EDT 2003
After a long time, no activity for about a day and a half in this thread! This post will be in two portions.
In any case, I am presenting VJ’s “Thelimanchu karigindi” from Swathikiranam. This is one of the songs I feel very close to heart in terms of music and lyrics as well. The song lyrics are just a delight to any connoisseur of Telugu language, particularly those who appreciate writings about nature intertwined with beautiful “alankaras” (poetic ornaments) which are central to classical Telugu poetry.
The song is based on what is called as “Bhaava kavithvam”. The poet takes the scenario of sunrise as the subject and elaborates on it using all sorts of delicate poetic phrases. This beautiful song was written by Sirivennela Seetharamasastry – a very versatile and knowledgeable poet.
Manjunath plays the child prodigy in carnatic music in this movie whose talents are envied by a great carnatic musician Mammutty so much so that he is responsible at the end for Manjunath’s death. Radhika, Mammutty’s wife – also a good musician, a childless woman and a support to her husband, sees the talents of Manjunath singing this song and decides that his raw talents have to be nurtured and streamlined in order for him to become a great musician. She figures that the best way to do this would be for Manjunath to become a sishya of her husband in such an arrangement that he stays with them at home in a gurukula fashion. This way, she also can see a son that she doesn’t possess in Manjunath.
VJ sang all the songs that Manjunath sang on the screen. Of course, “Aanathineeyara” gave her the national award for that year. But all the songs that she sang in that movie are all gems of renditions. She practically grabs the limelight amidst Balu and Chitra with her flawless, mellifluous renditions. One can imagine that such musically oriented movies depend so much on the singers in order to give life to the sahityam. VJ does full justice to her job maintaining the beauty of the language while delivering the music perfectly.
So the song goes….
Telimanchu karigindi talupu teeyanaa prabhu
Ila gonthu vanikindi pilupuneeyanaa prabhu
O Lord, the early morning fog has become dew, shall I open the door for you? Looks like the earth is waking up, should I call you to rise up and start your work? The poet is addressing the sun-god beckoning him to wake up for it is getting too late – the dew is forming already and even the people seem to awake already.
Nee doava podavunaa kuvakuvala swagatham
Nee kaali alikidiki melakuvala vandanam
The birds are chirping welcome praises in your way and the world is generally bowing to you just by the hint of your arrival.
- From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250)
on: Thu Jul 17 17:23:41 EDT 2003
Part II
Ee poola raagala pulakintha gamakaalu
Gaarabu kavanaala gaali sangathulu
The colors emanating from these blooming flowers seem to be like the “gamakas” and the wind seems to be playing “sangathis” to welcome your arrival.
Nee charana kiranaalu palukarinchina chaalu
Pallavinchunu prabhu pavalinchu bhuvanaalu
The whole world would bow to you right after you show up at its doorstep (as soon as the sun rises).
Bhaanumoorthy, nee prana keerthana vini palukani
Pranathulani pranava sruthini
Paadani prakruthini pradhama kruthini.
O Sun-god, these welcome praises are nothing but the salutations to you by Mother Nature (along with her children i.e., us) in the form of a song which is nothing but a manifestation of our root note “Om”.
Bhoopala, nee mrola ee baela gaanalu
Nee raajasaanikavi neerajanaalu
O King, all these welcome songs that we are singing in your presence are compliments to your kingship.
Pasaru pavanaalalo pasikoona raagalu
Pasidi kiranaalu padi padunuthelina chaalu
The music of a baby-cry that one hears in the breeze (i.e., the wind-stream) gets coated by your golden rays…
Thalayoochu, thaliraaku bahuparaakulu vini doralani
Doranagavu dontarani tharalani daari tholagi raathirini.
….makes the gentle leaf sway its head, as if it were bowing to you welcoming you. May your laughter (i.e., your arrival) enlighten the world by letting the darkness disappear off.
Listen to VJ singing “Thalayoochu”, so soft and so gentle, as if she were the leaf herself trying to sway gently to the breeze.
I tried to convey the meaning of this song (which is not much!) but it is much more difficult to convey the “bhavam” of the song. That can be attained only by listening to this song. I simply love the way VJ elevates this simple tune and song with that very “bhavam” I mentioned earlier. This song requires stresses at certain parts and none at certain others. She does this perfectly well without sounding too loud or too soft.
IMHO, this is a must-listen and a must-have as part of any VJ fan collection.
- From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219)
on: Thu Jul 17 17:54:09 EDT 2003
Kaumudi -
The day dawns...the fog clears...and the lines of translated sunshine are visible to all of us!
Thank you for making the time for this undertaking. It is rewarding (for me, persnoally) when I have a linguistic-imagistic map (which is what you have provided) to stop and listen to the words, and savour their flavour. The meaning, even if it is provided in a gist, makes the song memorable for its sentiment, and its worldview.
I will listen to the song again, with your eloquent precis beside me, and I am sure Telimanchu Karigindi will reveal itself anew, the fog of incomprehension lifting, and the verses shining in their meaningful purity.
Please keep us aware and amazed with many more such translated epiphanies.
- From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250)
on: Fri Jul 18 13:56:18 EDT 2003
Naaz
You're most welcome. I delayed it anyway, mostly due to laziness.
- From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219)
on: Sun Jul 20 09:05:12 EDT 2003
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- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.9)
on: Mon Jul 21 16:46:19 EDT 2003
1978- Part 12A
In this part of the 1978 trail, let us first look at 3 songs that VJ sang for ‘Thirai Isai Thilagam’ KV Mahadevan, and all three were from the film- Radhaikketra Kannan.
As we have seen earlier, the late 70s were not the best period for KVM, at least as far as tfm was concerned. The rapidly changing trends in tfm, and the emergence of V Kumar, Vijayabhaskar and of course, Ilayaraja from 1976, were all causes for KVM getting very few Tamil films. However KVM was far from being idle- he had his hands full with Telugu films and along with Chakravarthi and Sathyam, formed the trio of leading composers in Telugu.
While in 1977, KVM had at least 3 releases in Tamil, in 1978, it was only Radhaikketra Kannan.
When one realizes that 87 Tamil films were released in 1978, of which KVM composed music for only one film, one can’t help sighing for this great creator, who in the year 1963, had composed music for a whopping 23 films out of the total 42 films that were released that year.
167. Ellaam un arulaalae - Radhaikketra Kannan – SPB – KVM
Sree Murugambikai Arts’ Radhaikketra Kannan starred Sivakumar and Srividya. I have a hazy recollection of watching the film on TV as a child. I think it was a color film, and a village subject, with the unpalatable sight of Srividya appearing as a college student!
Srividya (born 1953), the daughter of MLV and Vikatam Krishnamoorthi was gifted even as a child. She learned classical music from T.Krishnamoorthi, and dance under Dhandayudhapani Pillai. When six years of age, she donned the role of the child Seetha in the Ramayana Ballet by the Travancore Sisters, who were MLV’s neighbours on Edward Elliots Road, now called Dr.Radhakrishnan Salai in Madras. She had her formal Arangretram on 7th September, 1964 in Krishna Gana Sabha.
Though she was screen tested first for MGR’s Ragasiya Police 115, MGR rejected her, as she looked too young. Her first screen appearance was in APN’s Thiruvarutchelvar-1967. She followed it up with films like Moondrezhuthu and Neelagiri Express. KB brought her under his fold in Nootrukku Nooru-1971, and gave her an excellent break in Sollathaan Ninaikkiraen, where she brought to sensitive life the role of Kamala, one of the three sisters who fall for Sivakumar.
At the age of 21, she daringly took on the role of mother to Jayasudha in Apporva Ragangal, and MR Bhairavi remains the best ever role she got to play in her career. Though she did ample justice to all her roles, (films like Kalangalil Aval Vasantham, Nalla Pennmani, Unarchigal, Avar Enakke Sondham, Madura Geetham (TN. Govt. Best Actress (Special Award) for 1977-78) Imayam, Ivargal Vidhyasamanavargal come to mind), her career as a heroine never took off in Tamil. She was more successful in Malayalam, where a variety of challenging roles came her way. In the 80s, she returned to Kodambakkam to do character roles and she hasn’t looked back since. She made her presence felt in films like Dowry Kalyanam, Punnagai Mannan, Aboorva Sagodarargal, Maapillai, Keladi Kannmani, Thalapathi, Kaadhalukku Mariyathai and Kandukkondaen Kandukkondaen (where Srividya made a ‘sensible’ and original departure from the Mrs. Dashwood envisaged by Jane Austen)
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.9)
on: Mon Jul 21 16:48:19 EDT 2003
1978- Part 12B
I have a feeling Radhaikketra Kannan was a remake of some popular Telugu movie of its time.
SPB:Ellam un arulaae Venkatesa--
indru engalukkum saatchiyae neeyae Thirumalesa
Aalilaatha araiyilae
naalilaatha naalilae
Thaalikkatta vaithaaye Srinivasa--
VJ: Ellam un arulaae Venkatesa--
indru engalukkum saatchiyae neeyae Thirumalesa
Aalilaatha araiyilae
naalilaatha naalilae
Thalikkatta vaithaaye Srinivasa!
SPB:Kili koondin ullae or kaadhal jodi
summa kilukilikkum anandha paattu paadi
VJ: Oru kattil oru meththai uravaadi
ingae ulagathai marappoma vilaiyaadi
SPB:Ninaikkamal mudithaayae Malaivaasa
VJ: Nee neram paarthu serthu vaithaai Srinivasa
SPB:Venkatesa---Thirumalesa—
VJ: Thirumalesa---Srinivasa
VJ: Meenaatchi tholilae Sokkesa
Valli thaanaalum deivame Murugesa
SPB:Ungalukkum saanthiyae ippadithaana
sondha ooraarkku virundhellam appuram thaana
VJ: Alamelu mangaiyin uyirnesa
SPB:Emai avasarathil serthu vaithaai Srinivasa
VJ: Venkatesa---Thirumalesa
SPB:Thirumalesa---Srinivasa
Listening to the song, my suspicion of a Telugu original gets stronger, for this song, as the other two, retains a distinct Telugu flavor. Perhaps KVM lifted the tunes from their Telugu original compositions?
To listen to this song, click here:
http://in.f1.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/nat_saravanan/vwp2?.tok=bcldn5RBumiy5u0B&.dir=/&.dnm=ellam+un.mp3&.src=bc
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