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hi PS Fans
Check out The New Episode of Aboorva Ragangal on vijay Tv Sunday @ 10:00 AM
The First Guest of this New Episode is P.susheela
Dont miss..
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Produced by Subhashree Thanigachalam
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- From: Subbu (@ 203.200.198.9)
on: Mon May 26 04:11:02 EDT 2003
Dear Friends,
May I post the details of the album 'Thirumal ThiruthalangaL", As I said, it was from the combination of R.Ramanujam+UP Shanmugam+P Susheela. With such a difficult wordings of Thamizh, PS excelled like anything...!
Side A:
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1. “Kaaviriyum KoLLidamum koodum idam-thaniley vaanaLavum kovil konda aranganey”, in praise of Lord Ranganatha (Srirangam) and his consort Ranganayaki Thaayaar.
Highlights in this song:
- Excellent use of Nadaswaram to start with and for interludes.
- Lord Ranganatha was described as “kula-deivam” of Lord Rama
- The deity is being worshipped with ‘Araya sevai”, which is basically rendering "Diyaprabandham in beautiful ragas and taalas
- Vedantha desikar praising HIS lotus feet in a set of songs (which was referred as “paadhu kaadha hastham”)
2. “KaNNazhagaal indha ulagai kavarndhavaney” – for Lord KaLLazhagar (Thimaal-irun-cholai) with Sridevi and Sundaravalli
- Song starts with “Nalamena ninaimin” (very difficult pazhan-thamizh)
- Extensive violin usage brings more than half of the devotion
- The theertham is called “chilambaaru”
3. “Vaikunda naadhaswamy unnai vaayaara vazhthi vaNangudhu bhoomi” to honor Lord Vaikundanadhar(Sri Vaikuntam) and Vaikundavalli and Bhoodevi
- Tamizh’s loose-end in pronounciation like “Vaikuntam” pronounced as “Vaikundam”, influenced PS too. Can anyone confirm on the correct one please?
- Few lines to narrate in short the story of “nyayam uraiththa KaLLabiran” to correct the robber Kaaladhoshagan.
- Each song with high influence of an instrument; here it is VeeNa.
4. “Nalam tharum thothathri Nadhaney” in admiration of Lord Thothathri naadhar (Vaanamaamalai) and MalarmagaL sireevara mangai.
- Thailabhishekam – the thailam (oil) used for the abhishekam is a great medicine for many diseases
- Ending was damn beautiful; one would feel like rewinding !!
5. “KalyaaNa Jagannathaney” to please Lord Jagannathan(ThirupullaaNi) and Goddes Padmaasini and KalyaaNavalli
- One more slip i.e., “padmaasini” is pronounced as “padmaasani”, a common defect in our pronounciation
- Lord Jagannatha is in “Nindra” kolam
- There is separate sannidhi for “dharba sayanam Ramar”; it is believed that Lord Rama, was taking rest before crossing the ocean. The bed was made by his brother Lakshman (Adhi seshan) with “Dharbai” (Grass)
- King of ocean was taught a lesson when he dishonoured the request of Lord Rama not be ferocious
In addition, my own personal experience in visiting ThirupullaNi
- Paayasam will be distributed as the main Prasadam in the temple, remembering the distribution of the same to Kausalya, Kaikeyi and Sumithra by the king Dasaratha.
- There are 2 trees (not remember what they are) in the back side. The wonder is that a branch of tree-1 is into the branch of tree-2. I could not believe it with my own eyes, as how it could happen. Am sure it is not one over another or a mudichu !!
I requested for a few clarification in my narration. It would be great if you can!!! TIA
Will come out with SIDE B later if there are no brick-bats :-))
- From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219)
on: Mon May 26 09:09:36 EDT 2003
Subbu -
Thanks for the info on Madhana Maligaiyil and the correction of Naalai Indha.
Most of these films, Paalum Pazhamum to Pon Oonjal, I watched as "Sunday Feature Film" on DD. Ellam black and white padangal. But how fresh and powerful they are still in my memory!
- From: kalai (@ 210.214.114.24)
on: Mon May 26 21:41:22 EDT 2003
Subbu!
great work.. I feel like listening immediatley! any link?
- From: Subbu (@ 203.200.198.9)
on: Tue May 27 00:23:31 EDT 2003
Naaz, RPRD was in color (if am correct). The sets for the song were damn good and one of them was like "chandra mandalam". Grear settings !!
Kalai, link illappa.. enu maaduvadhu? I shall give you the cassette... u can record... aaiththa?
- From: Subbu (@ 203.200.198.9)
on: Tue May 27 01:11:31 EDT 2003
Singers need classical training: Susheela
Read the news given in Chennaionline.com
http://www.newsonweb.com/chennaionline/newsitemnew.asp?NEWSID=%7BAC9DC2ED%2D9A3F%2D4924%2DA5BE%2D940B57854FD3%7D&CATEGORYNAME=TAMNA
- From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219)
on: Tue May 27 09:56:51 EDT 2003
Subbu -
Thank you for the link with the PS "item". I am sure that she must be somewhat disgusted by what passes for singing / singer these days. It must hurt an artiste of her calibre to see (hear) that all the effort and commitment she (and her colleagues) put into film music has been demolished, slowly but surely, by half-baked singers, MDs and others.
But she can take consolation in the fact that her songs will always be immortal as examples of voice, clarity and simplicity. All three features that are complete gone from Film Music these days.
(She talks of "classical training" as "foundation" for a singer. Ippo Irukkira "Manal" Veedugalukku Edhaiyya Azahamum Asthivaramum...)
- From: raj (@ 12.30.122.10)
on: Tue May 27 14:21:59 EDT 2003
subbu good work
- From: Subbu (@ 203.200.198.9)
on: Wed May 28 00:50:33 EDT 2003
Naaz, romba azhagaga sonnergaL.. PS might have come out with this piece in general. If you take SPB, he was not a trained carnatic musician. He always mentions that he had only KeLvi Gnanam. But still with his commitment and dedication he scaled such a height in the music world. Even the new singers like, chitra, sujatha, swarnalatha, harini are all trained in classical music. But how they put that skill in best use is always a question (am not questioning about these 4 female singers).
In my view, those days, people had dedication, involvement, team work (which is totally missing now), as well as adequate time for practice. Now lack of all these parameters, leads to sound of sound (not music) :-(
- From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.9)
on: Thu May 29 01:06:24 EDT 2003
Here comes SIDE B of "Thirumaal thiruthalangaL".
1. “Aadhinadhavalli magizhum aadhinaadhaney”. No need to mention the names of the Lord and his consort. The place was not as part of the song. Can anyone provide the pointer please?
2. “Sowmya NaraayaNaney” in praise of Lord Sowmya NarayaNan(ThirukOttiyur) with ThirumaamagaL
Highlights in this song:
- Lord is in “Sayana” kolam
- The Vimanam is called as “Astaanga vimaanam”
- PS brought out all necessary emotions with her supreme talents when she sings the lines narrating the story of “Ramanujar climbing up to the temple-tower-top and preaching the world with the basic mantra OM NAMO NARAYANAYA”
3. “kOdha naachiyaar uLam kavarndhu, avaL karam paTri maNam purindha Ranga Mannayer”… obviously for Lord Ranga Mannar(Srivilli puthoor) and Kodhai (AandaL)
- This is based on Mohanam… In my opinion, PS loves Mohanam than KalyaNi and she did a great job in this song… Marvelous!!!
- The place brings the famous Thamaraikani, but the thought just like that vanishes as you start listening to it
- Hunter-kings Villi and Puthan have constructed this temple
- This is the place where Periyazhvaar had presented the “Prabandham” to the world
- Never to miss, a special charaNam to describe the beautiful story of “Soodi kodutha sudar kodi” AandaaL.
4. “Thirumuga mandalam oLi veesa” – to pray Lord Nambi(Kurumbudi) with Kurumbudi-valli Thayaar
- The song describes the Lord Nambi as Thirupaar-kadal nambi, VaiNava nimbi, Irundha nimbi (Sitting pose), nindra niabi (Standing pose), kidandha nambi (lying down pose) and Malai-mel nambi (on top of mountain).
- Can anyone help me in getting the exact name of the Lord of Kurumbudi?
- Song praises the Lord while sharing the story of HIS action as “seedan” (disciple) for Sri Ramanujar (Udayavar). Lord gives Udayavar a more supreme seat for him when Udayavar comes out with “Mandira ubadesam”. Can anybody provide more information on this?
5. “Anantha Padmanabhaney Padmanabhaney” – you know the place and the Lord. Yes.. it is Thiruvananthapuram from where Lord Ananthapadmanabha swamy and his consort Sri Harilakshmi protects the universe.
- PS did not take chance here. We, ThamizharaL, always pronounce “Padma” as “Badma”. But with her Telugu (Sanskrit) base, she perfectly pronounce it as “Padmanabhan” with a good punch of “h” in between “bhan”.
- The Lord has the bed base of “aNangan” engindra “uragam” (snake)
- There are 3 different windows (vaayilgaL) to worship the Lord’s Siram (head), Udal (body) and Thiruvadi (Feet). Each word (Siram, Udal, Thiruvadi) is given an importance and PS’s rendering was pakka!!!
I really enjoyed listening to this great work by R. Ramanujam, UP Shanmugam and P. Susheela. If you get the tape, just take it and you will love it.
Thanks if you have had a glance :-)
- From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.9)
on: Thu May 29 01:16:14 EDT 2003
In my post on "Thirumal thiruthalangaL, I requested for some clarifications. May I request again if anyone is aware? I repeat below my questions:
1. What is correct in Tamizh pronounciation "Vaikuntam" or "Vaikundam"
2. In which place/town, does Lord Aadhinadha swamy temple exist?
3. What is the exact name of the Lord of Kurumbudi temple?
4. Lord gives Udayavar a more supreme seat for him when Udayavar comes out with “Mandira ubadesam”. Can anybody provide more information on this?
TIA
- From: kalai (@ 164.164.89.68)
on: Fri May 30 02:08:59 EDT 2003
Thanks subbu! good work!
Update of Asianet programme (28/05/03)
PS started with the song “pAtu pAdi urakkAm njAn”
with a brief introduction by poet O.N.V.kurup. It is a
repetition. This time they have show the clippings of
the movie. I couldn’t recognize the actress.
Q : Did the music directors inform U to whom U are
singing ? U have sung maximum number of songs to
Sharadha, Sheela and jayabharathi. Ur voice suits to a
village character or heroine of “vadakkan “ story .
Did MD’s explain the scene ?
Reply : No, They don’t say. They teach the song. We
practice and sing. We don’t know who is going to act.
But the actresses brought a good name to me by their
good acting.
Then they were discussing about the song “Malaini
nadhiyil kannadi nOkkum mane pulli mane”, from the
movie “sakunthaLA”.A beautiful duet with KJY. PS was
singing two lines and she told she like that song.
The second song was “Nalacharithathile Nayakano”
from the movie “ponnapuram kOtta”. PS did a wonderful
job in this song especially when she reaches high
pitch in the second stanza , And voice is very stable
in high pitch. Don’t miss this song. I think it is a
“Vadakkan “ type of song.
Link:: http://www.coolgoose.com/go/song?id=56536
After tha song, Interviewer asked “How U rate
jesudas as a singer”. She replied, “He is a nice
singer, base voice, having strength in his voice”.
Then the discussion was about the song “Tajmahal
nirmicha rajashilpi” from the movie “Azhakulla
saleena” , which is KJY’s first movie as MD. He made
PS to sing the important song “tajmahal nirmicha”. PS
sang few lines, it was OK. ( I feel she should have
done little homework before the interview. Look like,
the complete interview was taken in a single day). She
also told ,”Aa pAttu Enikku ValarE ishtanANu” ( I like
that song very much)
Link:: http://www.coolgoose.com/go/song?id=41291
The next song was “Thurannitta Jalakangal
adachOtte, thooval kidakka virichotte” from the movie
“thathuputhran” and showed the clippings of
jayabharathi. A rare, but good song. I have the song,
but very bad quality. When I get the better version I
will upload.
The last song was “Udhayagiri kOttayile
ChithralEke”, another unforgettable song by PS from
the movie “Aaromalunni”. Asianet play this songs music as a
back-ground music in the PS episode.
- From: Subbu (@ 203.200.198.9)
on: Fri May 30 04:43:09 EDT 2003
Kalai, I think “pAtu pAdi" was for Ragini. Raj can correct me, if needed.
Indha vaaram paattu oNNum pOdaliyaa, Raj [hope you visit this thread these days :-)]
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